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QUOTE(southsideirish71 @ Jul 2, 2005 -> 02:24 PM) I know we are paying 6 mill for Conteras out of the 8. But in hind sight. A few more mill and you have Clement instead of Conteras. Clement got killed today, and he's got that injury history hanging over him, especially if he throws too many sliders.

QUOTE(fathom @ Jul 2, 2005 -> 02:22 PM) That's what I'm saying. Recently, Contreras's ERA has been well over 6 in the last month or so. It's definitely brought back shades of the Wright era. And in the first 2 months he had an ERA of around 3 IIRC.

QUOTE(fathom @ Jul 2, 2005 -> 02:18 PM) I was excited when we released Danny Wright because I'd never have to watch such an annoying pitcher again. However, Duque and Contreras are doing their best Danny Wright impression far too often now. Difference - Danny Wright had an ERA above 6. El Duque and Contreras DO NOT.

QUOTE(Gene Honda Civic @ Jul 2, 2005 -> 02:16 PM) It's like studying for a test. A Latvian Conversion Test.

QUOTE(Heads22 @ Jul 2, 2005 -> 01:16 PM) I pretty much agree with Jason's standard of AA production and chances of success. If Gio keeps dominating through AA ball, it will be tough not to put him in that group. I just find it interesting to compare Gonzalez this season and B-Mac with last season. They both started at Kanny, dominated, Gio's at WS, while B-Mac eventually made his way up late to B-Ham. I guess I just like Gio a bit more as a prospect than other people.

QUOTE(Rowand44 @ Jul 2, 2005 -> 01:18 PM) These A's fans are assholes. Why'd u think Frank Francisco chucked a chair at em for?

QUOTE(Chisoxfn @ Jul 2, 2005 -> 01:18 PM) Or say Chavez at 3rd Hey now that could work.

I suppose it depends on what the Sox do with the $8.5 million they'd save. Put at least half into a productive third baseman perhaps if they don't want to keep Crede, and the rest in the bullpen.

QUOTE(Chisoxfn @ Jul 2, 2005 -> 01:10 PM) My thoughts are this. Untouchables are guys that can become total stars. I'm less likely to say that Sweeney is going to be a total star. He's just not matched his potential with production. He has good tools across the board and has a nice swing, but the numbers aren't there. If Sweeney starts raking I could put him back into that category and he has been rushed a bit, but this year will be the time where he's given the opportunity to settle in (next year could be a year in which he explodes and I know a few people think he'll do so in the 2nd half). When it comes to Young he skipped WS and is still clubbing the hell out of the ball. He plays an awesome CF and is very fast. Plus he has the ability to hit 30 HR's and 40-50 doubles. The guy is an xtra base machine and could be like Andruw Jones. Ie, never hit for much average, but just hit tons of xtra base hits. Not saying he'll be like Andruw defensively either, but he's definately an above average CF. Anderson rates ahead of both, although once again Young may be the best talent wise of the group. Its hard to say though because Anderson has the stronger arm, but a little less power. Both are very good and Anderson is a lot closer and much more of a "sure thing". Not that he is a sure thing cause there is no such thing as that. When it comes to pitchers the only untouchable I'd list would be Bmac. Even then he wouldn't be untouchable for a stud player that would be here for more than just this year. Same can be said for every prospect in the system. You wouldn't have Gio Gonzalez as an untouchable Jason?

Dye at 1st base and Anderson at RF letting Konerko go. Discuss.

QUOTE(ZoomSlowik @ Jul 2, 2005 -> 01:08 PM) he could easily have three or four more wins. He's pitched some very solid games where our offense hasn't done much. Absolutely, he'd probably be last out of the SP's for run support.

QUOTE(Soxnbears01 @ Jul 2, 2005 -> 01:04 PM) it's gotten better since i've grown confidence in him. he gets into way too many jams, but gets out of an incredible amount of them. Hence why he hasn't won many games this season.

I'd be interested to hear people's thoughts on Chris Young vs. Ryan Sweeney prospect wise right now taking into consideration their collective performances so far this season.

QUOTE(Rowand44 @ Jul 2, 2005 -> 01:00 PM) Contreras was at 35 to start this inning, Harden is at 63. You can look at doubles and triples stats, but one key stat that is often overlooked is how many pitches the opposing pitcher has to throw. I swear the Sox will have dramatically improved on this compared to previous years.

QUOTE(Spiff @ Jul 2, 2005 -> 12:52 PM) Best race car driver - Willie Harris (he's light-weight) That's Danica Patrick's excuse.

I see Harden's thrown 49 pitches already. That's a very good stat after 2.

QUOTE(JimH @ Jul 2, 2005 -> 12:43 PM) Look out for this guy, Swisher. Damn two out walk. He's been very, very hot lately.

Johnson's a moneyball type of guy, has something like a 13/10 BB/K ratio.

That's smallball right there.

No Frank tonight, let's hope Aaron can produce in the 3rd spot. Everett and Dye look good in the 5 and 6 spot though.

Eddy Curry in a sign and trade for Sam Dalembert and Kyle Korver. Would you do it?

Better late than never.

QUOTE(WHarris1 @ Jul 2, 2005 -> 10:55 AM) Chad Ford thinks the Bulls will also puruse Jaric, who I would love. 6'7" at the point. Ford lists Jaric, Watson, Daniels, SAR, Haslem, and James as targets for the Magic. SAR, Yell, Haslem, Simmons, Jaric, Kukoc for the Bulls If they sign Jerome James or Robert "Tractor" Traylor with the mid level exception I will :puke.

QUOTE(ZoomSlowik @ Jul 2, 2005 -> 10:44 AM) Probably not. He's really cheap for the next three years, and is going to be a beast once he gets his offense going. He might be pretty close to Amare in a few years. I think 3 of the bottom 4 are interchangeable, it's really hard to tell if Gordon, Iguodala, or Jefferson will be the best player in a few years. And yeah, that McGrady deal looks really bad, especially after dealing Mobley for Christie. Steve Francis is an idiot, still holding out hope that he can be traded, but it's not likely. The Magic are going to sign one of Mario Jaric, Earl Watson or Antonio Daniels to be the new starting PG to move Francis to SG. And I think long - term Dwight is going to be a better defender and rebounder than Stoudemire, but that's JMHO.

QUOTE(ZoomSlowik @ Jul 2, 2005 -> 10:40 AM) I do miss the chant, but for the money, no thank you. He's going to be an albatross on the Tigers' payroll for quite some time. He'll be .300, 25, 90 tops even if he gets back to his old form in that park. Before this season, he had 1 HR in 135 AB's at Comerica.