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Anderson was 14 million.
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Very well said.
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Who do you want or think will replace Benetti?
Lip Man 1 replied to ron883's topic in Pale Hose Talk
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November 30, 1955 - It was the start of a new era at shortstop for the White Sox. On this date the team purchased the contract of young infielder, Luis Aparicio from Memphis. Aparicio would begin his Hall of Fame career the following season, winning the Rookie of the Year honor in the American League. He was the first Latin player to do so. Aparicio also brought back what was then the lost art of base stealing, swiping 269 of them for the Sox between 1956 and 1962. He’d go on to six All-Star appearances representing the White Sox. November 30, 1961 - After 13 years on the South Side, with 186 wins and seven All-Star selections, pitcher Billy Pierce was traded to the San Francisco Giants by G.M. Ed Short. Pierce and Don Larsen were sent west in exchange for knuckle-balling relief pitcher Eddie Fisher, pitcher Dom Zanni, outfielder Bob Farley and a player to be named later. The trade would revitalize Pierce’s career as he went 16-6, then win a game and save the pennant clinching game against the Dodgers in the three game N.L. playoff series, and then he tossed a three-hit complete game win in game #6 of the 1962 World Series against the Yankees. Fisher would become one of the top relief pitchers in baseball and would team with Hoyt Wilhelm to give the Sox great depth in that area. He’d make the All-Star team in 1965 and win the Relief Pitcher of the Year award. In an unrelated note, Fisher did a spot-on imitation of Donald Duck! November 30, 1970 - New Sox player personnel director Roland Hemond continued to rebuild a battered franchise. At the winter meetings he shipped Gold Glove winning outfielder Ken Berry, infielder Syd O’Brien and pitcher Billy Wynne to the Angels for pitcher Tom Bradley, catcher Tom Egan and outfielder Jay Johnstone. The deal would be a steal just based on what Bradley did, winning 15 games with a sub 3.00 ERA in both 1971 and 1972. Egan provided great back up help to Ed Herrmann and Johnstone was a quality outfielder and clubhouse comic.
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According to The Athletic's Ken Rosenthal (subscription required), Chicago general manager Chris Getz has informed interested teams that he will likely wait until the top free-agent starting pitchers are off the board to move Cease.
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https://www.mlb.com/news/luis-severino-mets-deal
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But JR and the franchise will be making money hand over foot from all the local and national and international advertising, marketing and media deals.
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November 29, 1963 – He had a spectacular 1963 season and because of it Gary Peters, Sox star left-handed pitcher was named the American League Rookie of the Year by the Baseball Writers Association of America. Peters went 19-8 with a 2.33 ERA and had 189 strike outs in 243 innings pitched. He won 11 straight games at one point. He also hit .259 with three home runs and 12 RBI’s. Peters would go on to win 20 games in 1964, lead the league in ERA in 1966 and make the All-Star team twice. He got 10 of 20 first place votes beating out his teammate, power hitting third baseman Pete Ward. Ward, who would be named American League Rookie of the Year by The Sporting News, hit .295 with 22 home runs, 84 RBI’s and had 177 hits that season. Ward got six first place votes among the baseball writers while Jimmy Hall of the Twins got the final four votes. November 29, 1967 - The Sox reacquired shortstop Luis Aparicio from the Orioles as part of a six-player deal. Aparicio would have his best seasons hitting-wise in the next few years but part of the cost was speedy Don Buford. He’d go on to have some of his best seasons with Baltimore and was a key part of their dynasty in the late 60's/early 70's. Aparicio hit .280 in 1969 and .313 in 1970 but even that couldn’t really help a team that was spiraling into one of the worst in baseball. November 29, 1972 – Sox G.M. Roland Hemond sent pitcher Tom Bradley to San Francisco for outfielder Ken Henderson and pitcher Steve Stone. Henderson was a Gold Glove winning, power hitting center fielder while Stone added depth to the pitching staff. Bradley never regained the form that he showed with the Sox in 1971 and 1972 when he won 15 games each year with a sub three ERA and was out of baseball by 1975. Henderson’s best year with the White Sox came in 1974 when he played in every game hitting .292 with 20 home runs and 95 RBI’s. Stone actually did his best Sox work in his second go-round when he won 15 games in 1977. November 29, 2022 – At a press conference in Houston the Astros officially announced the signing of long time White Sox first baseman Jose Abreu to a three-year contract. In nine years with the Sox Abreu hit 248 home runs, and drove in 863 RBI’s. He was the American League Rookie of the Year in 2014, won the M.V.P. Award in 2020, won three Silver Slugger Awards and was a three-time All-Star. But his age and the fact that the Sox had Andrew Vaughn, a former first round draft pick who also played first base, waiting in the wings, made Jose expendable in the minds of the organization. Like with another Cuban player, “Minnie” Minoso, when he was traded in 1958, the move was very unpopular with the fan base.
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Starts talking about the White Sox situation at the 7:47 mark:
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Santos may not even be able to pitch next year. Sox shut him down late with forearm soreness...that's usually not good ask Rodon, Dunning and Martin for example.
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November 28, 1961 - The Sox sent slugging infielder Roy Sievers to the Phillies for two players including pitcher Johnny Buzhardt. Buzhardt would become part of the stellar Sox starting rotation in the mid 60's, have some fine years and was particularly good against the Yankees going 7-0 against them between 1962 and 1967. He’d win 48 games in five and a half years with the Sox posting an ERA of three or under in three seasons.
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It was a three-run home run not a grand slam.
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November 27, 1938 - Sox star pitcher Monty Stratton, an American League All-Star in 1937 and one of the best young players in the game accidentally shot himself in the leg when his .22 caliber pistol discharged when he was replacing it in his holster. He had failed to engage the safety on the gun. He was out hunting rabbits near his Texas home. Unable to get help, he crawled a half mile to a road leading into Greenville, Texas. The bullet pierced a femoral artery which stopped circulation to the limb above the knee and it had to be amputated the next day to stop the spread of gangrene. His five-year career was ended. He eventually came back to play in a few minor league games using a wooden leg. In 1948 Hollywood made ‘The Stratton Story,’ starring Jimmy Stewart, June Allyson and former Sox manager Jimmy Dykes. November 27, 1951 - Another one of G.M. Frank Lane’s best deals. On this date, Lane sent five players to the St. Louis Browns for three players, one of whom would be catcher Sherm Lollar. Lollar would become a three-time All-Star and a three-time Gold Glove winner. He was considered the second-best catcher in the league throughout the 1950’s behind the Yankees Yogi Berra. Of the players sent to St. Louis, one of them, outfielder “Jungle” Jim Rivera, would be reacquired by the Sox that July. Both players would remain with the club through the early 1960’s. November 27, 1961 - In a bizarre coincidence both “Minnie” Minoso and Joe Cunningham were at the same sports banquet in Joliet, Illinois when word came that the Sox and Cardinals had made a trade. The deal was Minoso for Cunningham! Cunningham became perhaps the finest fielding first baseman in franchise history ranking right up there with Joe Kuhel and Tony Muser. In 1962 Joe would reach base 268 times and lead the Sox in walks, runs, sacrifice flies and bunts. He hit .295 and drove in 70 RBI’s. In July 1964 he’d be sent to the Senators as part of a deal bringing Bill “Moose” Skowron to the Sox. November 27, 1981 - It was a move criticized at the time as Sox G.M. Roland Hemond sent outfielder Chet Lemon to the Tigers for outfielder Steve Kemp. The swap of All-Stars left Sox fans shaking their heads since Kemp would become a free agent after the upcoming season. He’d eventually sign a big money contract with the Yankees after knocking in 98 runs and hitting .286 for the Sox. However, what wasn’t known at the time was that the Sox weren’t going to re-sign Lemon either after he refused to sign a contract extension that was agreed to in principal because the Sox then went out and signed Carlton Fisk for more money than they had agreed to give Lemon.
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The Sox were one of the finest post season teams ever but that's a pretty strong statement. The 1976 Reds and some of those Yankee postseason clubs can also make that claim.
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November 26, 1976 - It was a move that would pay large returns the following season. On this day, injured third baseman Eric Soderholm signed a free agent deal with Bill Veeck and Roland Hemond. Soderholm would become Comeback Player of the Year for 1977 with 25 home runs, 67 RBI’s and a .280 batting average. It would help lead the “South Side Hit Men” to a remarkable 90-win season. He missed the entire 1976 season with a severe leg injury suffered when he was still with the Twins and was one of the first proponents of the Nautilus exercise system which he used to get back to being able to play at the Major League level. November 26, 1991 - The Sox hired Gene Lamont as the new field manager replacing Jeff Torborg. Lamont was hired after Pirates manager and former Sox coach Jim Leyland highly recommended him. Lamont was a coach on Leyland’s staff. The quiet, laid back, Lamont would win the American League’s Western Division title in 1993 and be named Manager of the Year for it. He’d also guide the Sox to the Central Division lead at the time of the labor impasse in August 1994 which saw the rest of the season get cancelled. With the Sox having gotten off to a slow start in 1995 he was fired by the team in June of that season.
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November 25, 1985 – Ozzie Guillen of the White Sox was named A.L. Rookie of the Year by the Baseball Writers Association of America. Guillen, who came to the Sox in a deal involving 1983 Cy Young winner LaMarr Hoyt, didn’t disappoint. His defense was outstanding only committing 12 errors the entire season. Offensively Ozzie recorded 134 hits and had a .273 batting average. He received 16 of 28 first place votes and finished with 101 points. Teddy Higuera of the Brewers was second. Ozzie would return to the Sox after his playing days ended to become the manager and win the 2005 World Series with the club as well as taking them to the playoffs in 2008. November 25, 2005 - Sox G.M. Kenny Williams rolled the dice and traded popular outfielder Aaron Rowand to the Phillies for slugger Jim Thome. The Peoria native would hammer 42 home runs and garner the A.L. Comeback Player of the Year award in 2006 but many felt the trade changed the chemistry and philosophy of the club that won the World Series in 2005 to say nothing of the defensive hole it created in center field. Thome would play almost four years with the Sox and would hit 134 home runs along with three seasons of at least 90 RBI’s. He would hit his 500th career home run in 2007 at U.S. Cellular Field beating the Angels with the walk-off blast.
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With all the domestic and international revenue streams for a 10 billion dollar a year business it's really hard to say with a straight face you are losing money. You can bet the Sox will be selectively putting out the word to some that they have been and are forced to cut payroll.
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Correct. Sox had home field advantage throughout the playoffs that year.
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If new ownership is in place by then all bets are off the table.
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November 24, 1976 - It was another bargain basement free agent signing that turned out well for the White Sox the following season. Pitcher Steve Stone inked a deal for his second go-round with the team. In 1977 Steve would win 15 games pacing the staff that won a surprising 90 games. Even more remarkable was the fact that he tore his rotator cuff while pitching for the Cubs the previous season. He refused surgery and cortisone shots and rehabbed his arm working with a kinesiologist from the University of Illinois. Given all that, for him to make 31 starts, toss eight complete games and pitch 207 innings was incredible. He’d was the first free agent signing in franchise history. Later he’d return to the organization as a broadcaster after a career that saw him win the Cy Young Award with the Orioles in 1980.
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JR's not selling regardless of what attendance is. Far to much money coming in from domestic and international streams.
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November 23, 1966 – After having a marvelous 1966 season, Sox outfielder Tommie Agee was named the American League Rookie of the Year by the Baseball Writers Association of America. Agee had a unique blend of power and speed and became the first player in franchise history with at least 20 home runs and at least 20 steals in the same season. In 1966 Agee hit .273 with 173 hits, 27 doubles, eight triples, 22 home runs, 86 RBI’s and 44 stolen bases. He also won a Gold Glove for his defense. He got 16 first place votes out of 20. Jim Nash of the Kansas City A’s was second in the voting. George “Boomer” Scott and Deron Johnson tied for third place. Johnson would play for the White Sox in 1975. November 23, 1983 – The Baseball Writers Association of America announced that Sox outfielder Ron Kittle was the winner of the A.L. Rookie of the Year award. The strongman from Gary, Indiana blasted 35 home runs and drove in 100 RBI’s, helping the Sox to 99 wins and the Western Division title. He received 15 of 28 first place votes. Julio Franco of the Indians, who in 1994 would join the Sox, was second with Mike Boddicker of the Orioles third in the voting. Kittle would hit seven rooftop home runs in his career with the Sox, the most by any player at the original Comiskey Park.
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Short answer: No...he shouldn't. Get the best possible deal you can for him because this team is going to be an unmitigated disaster on and off the field for the next two years or until new ownership arrives.
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Not that I can recall.
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In a story years ago in Sports Illustrated Floyd was quoted as saying that he grew up a Sox fan and his favorite player was Harold Baines but he wouldn't want to play for the team.
