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2024 Offseason Plan - "Try" to Compete Edition
Lip Man 1 replied to ChiSox59's topic in Pale Hose Talk
Jerry isn't selling while he is alive. He has made that abundantly clear. The capital gains tax hit on selling would be in the neighborhood of 200 million dollars AND that doesn't count what he'd have to pay in Illinois state tax. He's an incredibly astute business person, he's not stupid enough to want to pay that penalty. -
The Sox will also "consider" signing anyone not named Ohtani Bruce...but that doesn't mean they will and probably won't.
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Marlins have hired the Rays GM as their new president of baseball operations.
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2024 Offseason Plan - "Try" to Compete Edition
Lip Man 1 replied to ChiSox59's topic in Pale Hose Talk
I read recently when either he or someone in his camp said Chicago is to cold. -
2024 Offseason Plan - "Try" to Compete Edition
Lip Man 1 replied to ChiSox59's topic in Pale Hose Talk
Unfortunately you don't have a choice so I continue to say take care of yourself, eat right, exercise, see your doctor and hope to outlive current ownership because that's the only hope you have. -
2024 Offseason Plan - "Try" to Compete Edition
Lip Man 1 replied to ChiSox59's topic in Pale Hose Talk
It will improve when new ownership arrives. -
https://soxmachine.com/2023/11/white-sox-decline-tim-andersons-option-due-to-tim-andersons-decline/
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LOL...my bad! ?
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When his off the field antics cause him problems ON the field, when his antics with umpires and fans lead to suspensions, which means he isn't playing... I can assure you fans DO give a damn. Plus it's an embarrassment to an organization that does plenty on their own to embarrass themselves. They don't need any help. Bottom line, the guy appears to be part of the clubhouse cancer issue and like I was told by a source for my story on the state of the Sox last November: "Anderson needs to go because the organization gave him the keys to the car and he drove it off the cliff. And he’s getting up in years." I don't care if he hits .335 with 25 home runs next year with the Braves or Marlins or Brewers, he wasn't going to impact the disaster that is going to be the 2024 season. He needed to go.
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I hope Getz and company realize they are going to lose 90-100 games next year, regardless of what JR says or dreams. So they need to be smart and not rush Montgomery. He needs to play at least, at least a half season at Charlotte.
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Depends on your definition of "marketable." Guys flips off fans, appears to lose concentration of the field, has embarrassing off the field headlines and can't stay healthy. If that's your definition of "marketability" I admire you.
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They tried remember but a lot of teams have the same questions and probably will wait until this off season now to see if they want to take a chance.
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Actually both of them have been saying Anderson has been part of the problem and in my opinion they are right. Guy has a world of talent and a 10 cent head. His distractions and off the field antics can be someone else's problem. The Sox are going to be brutal next year so at least try to get some guys who care.
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November 4, 1965 – “The Senor,” manager Al Lopez, resigned his position with the White Sox for health reasons. Perhaps the greatest manager in franchise history, Lopez had nine winning seasons in his nine full time years as field manager. He won the 1959 American League pennant and was coming off of back-to-back-to-back 90 or more-win seasons in 1963, 1964 and 1965. The Sox averaged 96 wins a season during that time span. His 840 wins are second most in team history. He returned to manage for parts of the 1968 and 1969 seasons.
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White Sox Decline Liam Hendriks’ Option
Lip Man 1 replied to Chicago White Sox's topic in Pale Hose Talk
Best thing for all concerned, if Liam really wants to return to the organization he'll have an opportunity to work out a new agreement. And this gives the Sox some "financial flexibility" (so they can waste it on injury-prone, retreads and stiffs) ? -
November 3, 1983 – Tony LaRussa, who guided the White Sox to a 99-win season and their first playoff appearance in 24 years, was named the Manager of the Year by the Baseball Writers Association of America. It was the first year the organization handed out that award. LaRussa received 17 of a possible 28 votes to take the honor. He beat out the Orioles Joe Altobelli who picked up seven first place votes. LaRussa would also take Manager of the Year honors from The Sporting News and the Associated Press. November 3, 1988 - The Sox named Jeff Torborg as the team’s new field manager. Torborg, a former Major League catcher, and Indian’s manager, gained notable success with the club. His ‘team and family’ philosophy took hold and a young group of players stunned the baseball world by winning 94 games in 1990. He would be named Manager of the Year that season. He followed up that year by winning 87 games in 1991 before being forced out by then Sox G.M. Ron Schueler who wanted to hire his own man. Torborg by the way is the only man in baseball history to have caught a perfect game from Sandy Koufax and a no-hitter from Nolan Ryan as he played for the Dodgers and Angels from 1964 through 1973. He also caught a third no-hitter courtesy of the Dodgers Bill Singer. November 3, 2003 - Former Sox All-Star shortstop Ozzie Guillen was named the team’s manager replacing Jerry Manuel. The “Wizard of Oz” immediately set about changing the fortunes of the franchise. His “Ozzie-Ball” philosophy of pitching, smart/aggressive base running, defense and doing the little things instead of just waiting for the home run would help lead to a World Series title in 2005, the season he would be named Manager of the Year. He’d return to the playoffs with the club in 2008. Before being allowed to leave in late September 2011, Guillen appeared to be headed for a very long career on the South Side but his relationship changed with then G.M. Kenny Williams and a parting was best for all concerned. November 3, 2022 – The White Sox named former Royals coach Pedro Grifol the club’s new manager replacing Tony LaRussa who officially retired due to health concerns in October. Grifol who played college baseball at Florida State and got as high as Triple-A, but never spent a day in the Major Leagues, spent 10 years in the Royals organization and before that had a lengthy stay in the Mariners ranks. His hiring as an ‘outsider,’ someone who had no connection to either Jerry Reinsdorf or the White Sox organization, marked the first time that had happened in the managerial search since Jerry Manuel got the position before the start of the 1998 season. His first year however was a disaster as he appeared overmatched on numerous occasions. The team went 61-101 and that mark placed Grifol as the worst skipper in franchise history among those who lasted at least one full season.
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Some talk among some of the talking heads this may be a guy the Sox should look to. Not happening. Resigned with the Dodgers today, two years, 24 million. I just have a feeling the Sox free agent possibilities are going to be very slim pickings. This is just an awful situation, just brutal across the board in all areas. How quickly everything went downhill and completely fell apart. Truly remarkable.
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Paul Janish Hired as Director of Player Development
Lip Man 1 replied to DirtySox's topic in Pale Hose Talk
https://soxmachine.com/2023/11/white-sox-hire-paul-janish-as-director-of-player-development/ -
Paul Janish Hired as Director of Player Development
Lip Man 1 replied to DirtySox's topic in Pale Hose Talk
But he probably works cheap! ? -
November 2, 1993 - Sox pitcher “Black” Jack McDowell easily captured the American League Cy Young Award. He beat out Randy Johnson. McDowell went 22-10 with a 3.37 ERA. He led the league in wins and shutouts. He was second in innings pitched and third in complete games. Jack got 124 points to Johnson’s 75. From 1990 through 1994 Jack won more games than any pitcher in the American League, 73 to be exact.
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The name I was told went along the lines of "Comiskey Park at Wintrust Field." And I was told the same thing that there was a higher bidder that certain members of the organization withheld some info from JR.
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November 1, 1950 - All-time great and career White Sox standout Luke Appling officially announced his retirement after 20 years with the franchise. He was undoubtedly the greatest player in franchise history at the time, boasting a career average of .310 with 2,749 hits. He won two batting titles and in 1936 drove in 128 runs. Later he would manager in the White Sox minor league system and also returned as a coach for the Sox in the 1970 and 1971 seasons. November 1, 2016 - A name change went into effect at the stadium formerly known as U.S. Cellular Field. The Guaranteed Rate mortgage company, based in Chicago, signed a 13-year agreement with the team for naming rights. The stadium would be called Guaranteed Rate Field. The announcement was met with a storm of ridicule by many including the Chicago Bears and Chicago Cubs who tweeted out negative comments. The downward arrow logo for the company also was met with criticism by many Sox fans who felt that was not an appropriate connection with a baseball team, particularly one who had been struggling for several seasons. According to reports the White Sox asked the company to change the logo’s direction but were refused. There were also reports another company made a better offer to the Sox for naming rights but wanted the stadium name changed back to Comiskey Park which Jerry Reinsdorf, White Sox owner objected to.
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https://chicago.suntimes.com/white-sox/2023/11/1/23932977/sox-prospect-jake-eder-is-looking-to-deliver-burger-getz-farquhar-birmingham-barons-lefty
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Garfien had MLB Network broadcaster Dan Plesac on for his latest podcast. Plesac grew up in Chicago, grew up a Sox fan, always wanted to play for them. Garfien asked him about the season and what would it take to turn things around. Plesac said the Sox have to spend money and they have to hit on some of the young kids developing and contributing. Talked about scouting. So Garfien said the Sox have four areas that need to be fixed, right field, second base, catcher and starting pitching. He listed four or five names for each position, all free agents (he didn't want to get into trade possibilities) and asked Plesac who would you sign and why. Plesac's answers were: RF: Michael Conforto 2B: Whit Merrifield C : Austin Hedges SP: Lucas Giolito / Jack Flaherty Plesac said if the Sox signed all those guys he'd guarantee they'd be 15 games better this year, the play on the field would be better, the clubhouse situation would be better. Garfien then said if that were to happen they may be "in it" in the division at the trade deadline and perhaps the organization could convince JR to spend at the deadline.
