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Also I don't think he broke his hand, as I recall it was a ring finger tendon injury. He tore it and had surgery. You may be thinking of Benintendi who broke his hand.

Like I posted, with him it seems to always be someone else's fault. It's the media...it's the fan base. Tim needs to look in the mirror. If you are going to talk, "We're the best team in the league...", "I'm the best player on the field..." then it behooves you to back it up or you look like an idiot.

No problem. As Kenny has said, "It is what it is..."

Another thing to keep in mind with Anderson...he's not a kid anymore. He's 30 or about to be 30. With his injury history I can't see any club giving him a nine figure deal.

Which is another one of his many issues... he can not stay healthy. For what its worth, the fan did a detailed study over multiple years not just the past one. The arrow is pointing down, but judge for yourself.

There's only one person to blame for his troubles and it's not the media or the fan base. It's the so-called "face of the franchise" who has played like crap for a full calendar year: 6-9-22 through 6-9-23: 85 games played, 1 home run, 16 RBI's, hit into 12 double plays, .256 batting average, .293 on-base percentage, .301 slugging percentage, .594 OPS. Saw these numbers posted by a Sox fan and they stunned me that he was this bad. With numbers like that I don't see how he can have any defenders.

June 13, 1946 - He set records that will never be broken including winning an incredible 40 games in 1908 and on this day Ed Walsh, White Sox star pitcher was inducted into the Hall of Fame. Walsh played all but four games in his 14-year career with the Sox leading the A.L. in various categories between 1904 and 1912 including games played, games started, complete games, shut outs, games finished, saves, innings pitched, strikes outs and wins. In his miraculous 1908 season Walsh in addition to the 40 wins, threw 464 innings with an ERA of 1.41. He had a great fastball as well as a mean spitball (which was a legal pitch at the time.) June 13, 1957 - The Sox and Yankees hooked up in perhaps the greatest ‘base-brawl’ in history. In the first inning at Comiskey Park, New York’s Art Ditmar threw a pitch at the head of the Sox Larry Doby. As the pitch rolled to the wall, Ditmar ran to cover home. Doby warned Ditmar about the pitch, and then threw a left hook which dropped him. The fight appeared to have racial overtones and lasted a full 30 minutes. Chicago native and future Sox player Bill "Moose" Skowron jumped on Doby which brought Walt Dropo into the fray. Dropo was 6-5, 220 pounds, and a monster for his time. At various times, “Whitey” Ford, Casey Stengel, "Jungle" Jim Rivera and Enos "Country" Slaughter were in the middle of it. Slaughter’s jersey and undershirt were ripped to pieces and his hat was backwards in one of the most famous photographs of the 1950's. After things settled down Billy Martin rushed into things and started in on Doby. Five players were ejected and fined for the melee. New York won the game 4-3. June 13, 1978 - It was one of the greatest comebacks by any team in franchise history. After trailing Cleveland 9-0 going into the bottom of the third inning, the Sox wound up winning the game 10-9! They scored six runs in the third, four runs in the fourth inning and hung on to win. They scored 10 runs without benefit of a home run. Wayne Nordhagen led the way with three RBI’s. Rich Hinton went over six innings in relief allowing only a run on five hits to get the win. June 13, 1997 - Interleague play began with the Sox in Cincinnati. Ray Durham inaugurated it with a leadoff home run. The Sox would beat the Reds 3-1 behind the pitching of Wilson Alvarez and Roberto Hernandez. All three Sox runs scored on home runs by Durham and Albert Belle.

With Michael running the Bulls (and not doing a great job) he may have no interest in the White Sox situation.

Another case where the owner thinks he knows better than the front office he hired and is tying their hands. The jokes write themselves.

No media member anywhere is going to ask that question in the way you present it. I'm a media member and I'd ask it like this, "Rick you spoke about being mired in mediocrity, the results say things simply haven't worked. Why should Sox fans still have confidence in your ability to work this situation out?"

It may be "old school" but they are the only people around a team on a daily basis and can provide real information. You certainly aren't going to get that from MLB sponsored sites or say ESPN or Fox who only do deep dives into certain clubs.

If that's true there's no reason to subscribe to them anymore.

That's very surprising. I wonder who will take his place. I'm assuming they aren't going to do what the Tribune did for a few years and not have any beat writers cover the team.

Where did you grow up in Louisiana? Worked in Monroe from 1981-1992. Back in the day the Sox had one of the largest radio networks in all of MLB reaching out through the Midwest and into the South in towns like Jackson, Mississippi and Sarasota, Florida.

He isn't stupid at all. He feels that winning is important as long as it is done HIS WAY, with his ideas and his beliefs as far as what is acceptable. His ego doesn't allow him to admit mistakes very often and he continues he feel (based on his recent comments) that the salary structure, the MLBPA, certain agents are still out of line in his world. History shows his way hasn't worked very well but that doesn't impact him. He is making money and as long as that continues he feels there is no reason to change his ways nor to hold folks accountable.

June 12, 1939 – He was a founding father of the White Sox and also of the American League. Charles Comiskey “The Old Roman” was inducted into the Hall of Fame on this date. Comiskey a former successful player/manager in St. Louis, got together with Byron “Ban” Johnson and others to start the American League in January 1901. He had already moved his St. Paul, Minnesota team to the South Side before this where they have remained ever since. The White Sox became a charter member of the new league which by 1903 was playing the National League champion in the World Series. Comiskey owned and ran the White Sox from 1900 until his death in 1931. Under his watch the Sox won the World Series in both 1906 and 1917 and lost the series in 1919 under a cloud of suspicion. June 12, 1939 – On this date White Sox second baseman Eddie Collins entered the Hall of Fame. Collins is regarded by some as the finest second baseman ever to play the game. He was sold to the White Sox in 1914 by the Philadelphia A’s for $50,000 dollars, an unheard-of sum for the time but he was worth every penny. Collins played 12 years for the White Sox, 10 times hitting over .300. Nine times he amassed over 150 hits in a season including a staggering 224 hits in 1920 when he batted .372. Between the A’s and the White Sox he racked up a total of 3,315 hits in his career. June 12, 1966 - The Sox traded relief pitcher Eddie Fisher to the Orioles for infielder Jerry Adair. Fisher was an All-Star in 1965 and the Fireman of the Year but the Sox had incredible bullpen depth thanks to the anchor, Hoyt Wilhelm, up and coming pitcher Bob Locker and youngster Dennis Higgins. June 12, 1967 - The Sox played the longest game that they lost, in their history, when they dropped a 6-5 decision to the Senators in Washington. The game went 22 innings. Both teams scored a run in the 10th then didn’t score again until the Nats Paul Casanova drove home the winner in the last of the 22nd. Johnny Buzhardt tossed eight innings in relief before giving up the run that cost him the game. Sox outfielder Walt Williams had 10 at bats in the contest. The night game took 6:38 minutes and ended at 2:43 AM Washington time. Both teams went the entire game without an error which is the A.L. record. The contest was played in temperatures around 90 degrees which prompted an angry Sox manager, Eddie Stanky afterwards, to demand implementation of a league curfew. June 12, 1972 - Sox slugger Dick Allen appeared on the cover of Sports Illustrated. (Teammate Tom Egan was in the background putting on his shin guards) It was one of the most unusual and unique covers in the history of the magazine. The cover’s caption read, “Season of Surprises. Chicago’s Dick Allen Juggles His Image.” June 12, 1981 - A players strike began, wiping out almost two months of the baseball season after owners insisted on wanting player compensation for any free agent signed… in essence instead of a free agent signing, a trade. When both sides agreed to resume the year in August, the owners came up with a bizarre ‘split season’ format. Sox manager Tony LaRussa, who passed the Florida bar exam and was an exceptional thinker, quickly found a major flaw in the plan and suggested that if it would help the Sox get the second-best record and a spot in the post season, they would throw a late season series to the A’s to guarantee that Oakland would ‘win’ both halves thus automatically getting the Sox into the post season. Later Cardinals manager “Whitey” Herzog said he would do the same thing for his club. The owners then quickly changed the format to eliminate the potential for teams having to lose games to, in essence, win. June 12, 2018 – It’s happened less than the number of fingers on one hand for the franchise. On this night the White Sox opened up their game at Guaranteed Rate Field with Yoan Moncada blasting a home run to center field. The next hitter Yolmer Sanchez then hit another home run…again to center field. It was a great way to start a game as the Sox went on to beat Cleveland 5-1. Both home runs came off Indians starting pitcher Adam Plutko. It was the fourth time in franchise history the Sox would lead off a game with back-to-back home runs. June 12, 2021 – Sometimes it doesn’t matter what you do, you just can’t lose. For Sox pitcher Dylan Cease that meant facing the Detroit Tigers. Cease, backed by a 13-hit assault, handled Detroit 15-2 at Comerica Park and in doing so ran his career record against them to 8-0. In eight starts, he had 47 strikeouts and an ERA of 2.09. He also became the first Sox pitcher ever to win his first eight starts against a single club breaking the record of Mark Buehrle who went 7-0 against the Texas Rangers in his first seven starts against them.

Sorry that was a typo on my part it should have been the 2022 season.

Stats on Anderson for the last year (6/9/22 through 6/9/23) are sobering: 85 games played, 1 home run, 16 RBI's, 12 ground into double plays, .256 batting average, .293 on base percentage, .301 slugging percentage, .594 OPS. The dropoff has been dramatic. I don't take credit for these stats by the way saw them posted elsewhere. Like I said something is clearly wrong and I personally think it goes beyond injuries.

Came from a White Sox family. It was passed down. (And to be clear despite the incompetence and dysfunction I don't regret that)

He's "unavailable" yet again according to Grifol for another few days.

Grifol said it was his normal scheduled day off so my guess is he was sticking to that script regardless of circumstances.

I don't think the Sox had a five game win streak in 2020 either although I don't remember for sure.

JR does not give out eight and nine figure long term deals to pitchers. This just isn't happening. And I think Cease's agent is Scott Boras. I could be wrong on that but if he is, and if Cease does pitch well the next two years, he's hitting the free agent market and will not be signing an extension with the Sox. What could change that? Of course if new ownership is in place anything can happen.

Agreed. That ship sailed when the organization fought him over a 50-thousand dollar difference this past winter in arbitration. His comments and his agents comments after they did that ended that dream.

If is the biggest little word in the English dictionary. TA's numbers for the last few seasons, not just the past few weeks or months indicates something is clearly wrong with him. Regarding Eloy, he like TA, Grandal, Moncada et al can't go a single solitary month with having a serious injury. Again the facts from the past few years indicate this is an on-going issue that for whatever reason the White Sox can't solve. Color my skeptical they will put anything together before the trade deadline. And then if Rick is smart he'll cut bait and admit his rebuild is broken and flushed down the toilet.