Everything posted by Lip Man 1
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Reinsdorf considers moving White Sox out of Guaranteed Rate Field or selling team
Buehrle/Wood brings up a very good point when talking about the TV market size. I agree with him Nashville isn't a threat, it, like Tampa, is going to be used by a bargaining tool by JR (if he is still around)
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8/21- Sox vs Mariners, 7:10, FS1
55 runs allowed in the last four games, that may be some sort of team record.
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Reinsdorf considers moving White Sox out of Guaranteed Rate Field or selling team
"The possibility of moving is serious enough, according to Crain’s, that a Chicago developer is preparing a bid." https://chicago.suntimes.com/white-sox/2023/8/21/23840794/white-sox-considering-move-from-guaranteed-rate-field-report
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Reinsdorf considers moving White Sox out of Guaranteed Rate Field or selling team
https://www.mlb.com/whitesox/news/white-sox-exploring-new-stadium-options
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Reinsdorf considers moving White Sox out of Guaranteed Rate Field or selling team
https://www.bleachernation.com/cubs/2023/08/21/report-white-sox-may-be-pondering-a-move-out-of-chicago/ A good look at the situation and his bet is they aren't going anywhere out of Chicago but may be trying to get a new stadium or more likely this is to try to entice buyers. If JR does really want to sell and take that massive tax hit, things must be worse than we are being led to believe.
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Reinsdorf considers moving White Sox out of Guaranteed Rate Field or selling team
Folks: Relax...this is all a moot point (or a moo point, the point of view of a cow as Joey said on "Friends...")\ JR won't be around in six years.
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Sox conducting internal interviews to see if dramatic changes are needed
Given JR's age change could be coming tomorrow or next week...you never know.
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This Day In Sox History...August 21
I have the radio broadcast of that 9th inning and Harry Caray said Bahnsen just stood on the mound with his hands on his hips and then Ed Herrmann came out to talk to him. From my interview with Stan: ML: Then on August 21, 1973 at Cleveland you came within a few feet of a no-hitter. I have the audio of the last of the 9th inning and I’d like to know what goes through a pitchers mind when he in the process of doing this, then what were you feeling when you lost out on it. (Author’s Note: The Sox won the game 4-0 but Bahnsen lost the no-hitter when with two out, ex-White Sox outfielder Walt Williams rolled a ground ball just to the left of Bill Melton on a 2-1 count.) SB: “Well I knew what was happening, that they hadn’t gotten any hits off me. That night I was warming up in the bullpen and just wasn’t feeling good, my stuff wasn’t working and I remember thinking ‘oh, no…’ because Cleveland had knocked me out the week before in Chicago. But when the game started it was one of those nights where if I’d miss on a pitch, they’d pop it up or hit it right at somebody.” “In the 9th inning, I knew that Bill (Melton) wanted to play in on the grass in case Walt Williams was going to try to bunt for a hit. I threw a breaking ball and he got on top of it and I thought I had it. He hit a two bouncer that I was sure Bill was going to get to but with him playing in, it got past him. I really wanted it, and naturally I was disappointed when it didn’t happen.” “A few years ago I saw Walt at a BAT convention and he told me something I didn’t know, that when he got to his car after the game, the fans had trashed it! They dumped garbage on it and everything. I guess they wanted to see me get the no-hitter too.”
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Sox conducting internal interviews to see if dramatic changes are needed
I'd love to be a fly on the wall and listen to the "interview" between JR and Hahn. Considering McGuffy continues to say that Hahn wasn't allowed to finish the rebuild job, that he wanted to sign a few guys to nine figure deals...I mean what/how is he supposed to tell his boss (assuming what McGuffy says is true) 'YOU were the one who screwed this rebuild up!' ?
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This Day In Sox History...August 21
August 21, 1926 - Ted Lyons fired a no-hitter in beating Boston 6-0 at Fenway Park. The Red Sox would only get two baserunners in the game, one came on a walk and the other on an error by shortstop Bill Hunnefield who fumbled a ground ball and then threw high to first base. Lyons, a future Hall of Famer, would win 260 games in a 21-year career, all with the Sox. His number #16 would be retired by the club in 1987. August 21, 1959 – It was Nellie Fox night at Comiskey Park. In the midst of a pennant race the Sox honored their second baseman and future Hall of Famer. Fox was given a new boat, shotgun and other presents and teared up when he spoke to the home crowd. He’d go on to become the American League’s M.V.P. that season hitting .306 with 70 RBI’s. On this night he went 0-3 with a run scored in the 5-4 win over Washington before almost 38-thousand fans. August 21, 1973 - Sox pitcher Stan Bahnsen took a no-hitter into the ninth inning against Cleveland. After getting the first two outs, former Sox outfielder Walt Williams got a ground single to left past third baseman Bill Melton. Melton inexplicably, was playing in, anticipating a possible bunt from Williams who later said under no circumstances would he try to break up a no-hitter by bunting late in the game. Stan then got the final out finishing with a one-hitter, striking out four, in the 4-0 win. August 21, 2005 - The Sox tied the club record by hitting four home runs in a single inning. It happened off the Yankees Randy Johnson in a 6-2 win at U.S. Cellular Field. The four who went deep were Tadahito Iguchi, Aaron Rowand, Paul Konerko and Chris Widger. The home runs came in the fourth inning. Iguchi, Rowand and Konerko went back-to-back-to-back.
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When Do the Sox Talk About a New Stadium??
Actually then Mayor Harold Washington insisted that the only place he'd agree to as far as city money and help for the project would be right next to the original Comiskey Park. He also had members on the stadium board that would do as he demanded regarding any votes in the matter. Dr. Fletcher's next book on the 1990 team and the new stadium comes out next year, I'm a contributor to it and have already seen the historical research that Dr. Fletcher and John Owens have done regarding the stadium and Washington's insistence on where the stadium was to be built is clear.
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Fire Rick Hahn
Didn't see this posted, this is the second time this season the kid is going to miss time with an arm-type issue: "The Sox put left-hander Noah Schultz, their first-round draft choice in 2022, on the injured list with a shoulder impingement after he was scratched from his start Sunday at Class A Kannapolis. Schultz has a 1.33 ERA with 38 strikeouts and six walks in 27 innings."
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"Sell the Team Jerry" Game August 24th
That was always Jay Mariott's contention. And in fact the owners removed JR from the committee that advised the commissioner on labor issues over it.
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Saturday Night in Denver Game Thread
Brooks specifically said if one of the kids or dad happens to hit a line drive that nails another kid, the bat day promotion explains itself with the way people react to things today as in some drunk decides to get involved with someone and said person takes a bat to their head and regarding former players (old-timers) if there is a serious injury or a heart attack that results in a lawsuit.
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Apparently the Sox won today
Hooray the Sox won a game. That's all I got and that's all they deserve.
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$75M = One of the worst White Sox LF Seasons
If he's having a good year he could be traded at the deadline. The Sox won't be doing anything so they may as well try to get something for him.
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"Sell the Team Jerry" Game August 24th
One classic example came in 2000 when he showed up in the locker room in Minnesota after the Sox clinched and he said, 'I'm sure all Sox fans are now glad we made the White Flag Trade...' And then of course this on national TV the night the Sox clinched in 1983: "Harry and Jimmy wherever you are, eat your hearts out. I hope people realize what scum you are..."
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Sox conducting internal interviews to see if dramatic changes are needed
Just wondering since the guy supposedly conducting the interviews is a BIG part of the incompetence and dysfunction, can JR fire himself??????????? ?
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Saturday Night in Denver Game Thread
Unfortunately from what Brooks told me when I interviewed him past promotions like Old Timers Day, Bat Day and Fathers vs. Sons & Daughters are no longer being held because of insurance risks.
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This Day In Sox History...August 20
August 20, 1915 - The White Sox purchased the contract of “Shoeless” Joe Jackson from the Cleveland Indians for $31,500 dollars and three journeyman players. Jackson even with the “Black Sox” scandal is still considered one of the greatest hitters in baseball history. “Babe” Ruth said he modeled his swing after Jackson’s and Ty Cobb said Jackson was the best hitter he ever saw. Joe hit .356 for his career in the Major Leagues. August 20, 1928 - Sox rookie Art “The Great” Shires made a sensational debut with four hits against the Red Sox in a 6-4 win. His first at-bat was a triple then he added three singles. He’s one of only 11 players to ever get four or more hits in their first big league game. “The Great” nickname by the way was self-given! August 20, 1929 - The Sox honored pitcher Urban “Red” Faber with a day at Comiskey Park. The Hall of Famer won 254 games, all with the Sox and had four seasons of 20 or more wins. On this day he threw 11 innings in a 5-4 loss to the Yankees. Before the game he was given a check for $2,700 dollars, a Majestic radio, a diamond ring and several baskets of flowers. August 20, 1948 - The Sox played before the largest regular season crowd in franchise history as they faced the Indians on a Friday night in Cleveland. An amazing 78,382 were on hand to see the Tribe edge the Sox 1-0 at Cleveland Stadium. The winning pitcher that night for the Indians was none other than Leroy “Satchel” Paige who only gave the Sox three hits. August 20, 1957 - Pitcher Bob Keegen tossed the first night no-hitter in Sox history as he blanked Washington 6-0 at Comiskey Park. It was the second game of a double header. He’d walk two Senators and only faced 28 men in a game that lasted only 1:55. Only one ball was really hard hit and that came in the first inning when outfielder Larry Doby made a backhand catch of a drive by Herb Plews. Keegen also drove in the last run of the night for the Sox with an RBI single. At 37 he became the oldest Sox pitcher to ever throw a no-hitter. Keegen would go 10-8 on the season that saw the Sox win 90 games and finish in second place. August 20, 1989 - After Sox star Harold Baines was traded to Texas on July 29, the team retired his uniform number #3 when the Rangers came to Chicago. He was only the third active player to have his uniform number retired by a club, joining Frank Robinson and Phil Niekro.
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$75M = One of the worst White Sox LF Seasons
Agee, J.C. Martin and Al Weis.
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Sox Quote of the Day August 19...
“There is energy; at times we lose it, then we get it back. It comes and goes in a game, and that’s unacceptable. We have to bring it every inning." - Pedro Grifol to DVS of the Sun-Times.
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Saturday Night in Denver Game Thread
This pitching staff is really, really bad...AAAA at best.
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Dodgers have completely overhauled Lynn pitch mix
A closer look at Lynn and the Sox days: https://soxmachine.com/2023/08/the-white-sox-traded-for-lance-lynn-then-stopped-striving/
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"Sell the Team Jerry" Game August 24th
I'm guessing what Sox fans remain are so traumatized and frustrated that they are just trying to put this season and the recent ones out of their minds as much as possible.