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He should be fired but won't, not this soon. JR doesn't like to admit he f#$%^& up. I just assume there were issues, restrictions, situations behind the scenes that at least help to explain what happened although what those could be I can't say. My hope is that if the Sox completely fall apart the final week, not even get four more wins for a winning seasons that the mainstream media will hold him to account.

Venable will blow through them by the fourth inning, even if Burke is throwing a no-hitter! 😄

The Sox came into Friday’s game ranked last in the majors in September in average (.207) and slugging percentage (.357) and over the last 10 games hit .179 (15-for-84) with runners in scoring position. Sox fans booed Venable as he came out to remove his relievers, showing their frustration over the team’s recent downturn. https://www.chicagotribune.com/2026/09/18/chicago-white-sox-will-venable-bullpen/

Amen.

Given how his season went in Seattle you'd think they would have known something was badly wrong. Getz was around for James Shields, you'd think he'd remember how that went based on what Shields was doing that year for San Diego.

It would help if they could actually keep these pitchers healthy and if not, at least get their rehab right so they don't suffer as many "setbacks"...

Players have some blame but not a lot in my opinion. It's been a long season, they are gassed, played over their heads for months. When Getz f#$%^& up the trade deadline that was the start of the breaking point.

Game time has been moved to 1:10 Chicago time trying to beat the rain.

He should be, he works for Detroit now. Perfectly understandable.

*Newcomb's line in September: 8 IP, 15 H, 12 R, 11 ER, 2 HR, 2 HBP, 6 BB, 7 K. Tigers 11, White Sox 8: Bullpen reaches breaking point -...From here on out, Will Venable’s only pathway to victory might require a starting pitcher to go six innings. The White Sox were able to nurse a two-run lead across the final 4 ⅓ innings of Thursday ni

Three factoids today: September 19, 1925 - The White Sox set the franchise record (since tied) for the largest shutout margin in team history when they blanked the Senators 17-0 at Washington. The game was the back half of a twin bill. Ted Lyons would throw a one-hitter, losing his no-hitter with two outs in the ninth inning on a bloop single to right by Bobby Veach over the head of first baseman Earl Sheely. Sheely had the big offensive game for the Sox going 4 for 6 with four RBI’s and two runs scored. The Sox had a seven run, second inning and an eight run, fifth inning. September 19, 1972 – It was one of the wildest games the White Sox ever played. Facing the A’s in Oakland and fighting to stay alive in the pennant race, the Sox beat Oakland 8-7 in 15 innings in a game that took almost five hours to play. The Sox couldn’t hold leads of 5-3 in the ninth inning or 7-5 in the 13th but wound up winning on a George Orta home run. Rich “Goose” Gossage, the last of seven pitcher’s manager Chuck Tanner used on the night, got the win. A Major League record (for the time) 51 players were used in the game, 21 by the White Sox and 30 by the A’s. That record has since been broken. September 19, 1986 - Sox pitcher Joe Cowley made the record books by no-hitting the Angels in Anaheim 7-1. It was an unusual no-hitter. Cowley walked seven, including three straight in the sixth inning, when California got their run. He also struck out eight and threw a total of 138 pitches. It was only the 12th time in big league history a club got no-hit…but scored a run! Ironically it would be Cowley’s last win in the big leagues as he lost his final two starts that year, was traded to the Phillies where he went 0-4, was demoted to Triple-A Maine and retired.

https://www.chicagotribune.com/2026/09/18/chicago-white-sox-will-venable-bullpen/

It will be 1967, 2003 and 2012 all over again. 13 losses in the last 19 games. It always comes down to pitching.

Second shocking loss in a week. 13th time this year the Sox had a lead in the 7th inning or later and lost the game. Just hard to see how they recover from this one. Pitching is completely spent. Somehow win four more games, lock in a winning season, thanks for the memories and make your golf reservations. We'll see if there is a next season.

During the three rebuild years before 2020 the Sox as I recall had either the very lowest payroll (one season) and two of the lowest in MLB.

The original poster said heavy rain is expected through Sunday afternoon. If that's true you aren't playing a DH on that day, you'll be lucky to get a single game in. The LAST thing I want is for the Sox to have to play a DH not with their pitching staff but as Kenny once intoned: "It is what it is..."

Tanaka. He's the pitcher that David Kaplan proclaimed very loudly that "The Cubs would not be outbid for him..." 😉

Unless it rains again.

Did they when Mike Illitch owned Detroit? Given the Sox have had the same owner since 1981 and that his approach and principals haven't changed looking at Sox history in trying to get a sense of what will happen in the future is not "always wrong..."

He certainly deserves that. But he also deserves questioning his lineup construction, his stubbornness when it comes to lefty/righty, his bullpen usage and of course the Schultz debacle.

Sun-Times said he's probably not playing Friday. Wrist is still to sore.

Exactly, if you have to play on the road at least they have won games in Cleveland definitely do not want to have to play at Houston with them having home field. They have owned the Sox for years.

The James Shields situation v 2.0

Author sheds MLB for claiming no salary cap is why they have blackouts: "What does this have to do with TV blackouts? As part of the league’s public relations campaign to gin up support for the cap/floor system, MLB has tied implementing a salary cap to eliminating TV blackouts. The suggestion is that the only way MLB could eliminate blackouts is by implementing a salary cap. This, however, is a complete farce. Blackouts directly reflect the media deals the league and its teams have struck with their broadcast partners. Regional sports networks (and now streamers) will pay a premium for exclusivity, which is only possible with blackouts. Similarly, national networks will pay a premium to ensure the games they air aren’t also available on regional sports networks, which would cannibalize their audience. In other words, blackouts exist only because the league and its teams want to make more money. It has nothing to do with the players objecting to a salary cap." Awful AnnouncingMLBPA director Bruce Meyer refutes MLB suggestion that TV...MLBPA executive director Bruce Meyer says the league could end blackouts whenever they want instead of blaming players.

In the Sun-Times today he acknowledged that his swing had become to "upper cut."