Everything posted by Lip Man 1
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This Day In Sox History 10/12...
Three factoids today: October 12, 1966 - Another one of then Sox G.M. Ed Short’s best moves. He sent two-time former All-Star pitcher Juan Pizarro, nursing a bad arm, to the Pirates for minor league pitcher Wilbur Wood. Wood would blossom in Chicago thanks to his knuckleball, first as a record setting relief pitcher then as a four-time 20 game winner. Wood would also make three All-Star teams. He pitched for the Sox through the 1978 season. In that four-year span, from 1971 through 1974, he totaled 90 wins. He started 181 games and in those four years pitched at least 320 innings with a high of 377 innings in 1972. At various times he led the league in games, games started, games finished, innings pitched, batters faced and wins. October 12, 2005 - In one of the strangest endings to a post season game in history, the Sox beat the Angels 2-1, in game #2 of the A.L.C.S. With the game tied in the ninth inning catcher A.J. Pierzynski ran to first on a third strike that bounced in the dirt. Angels catcher Josh Paul, the former Sox player, thought he struck out normally and never threw down to first base as required by the rules. Home plate umpire Doug Eddings agreed with Pierzynski and let him remain at first base. After pinch runner Pablo Ozuna stole second, Joe Crede’s two strike double brought home the game winner and tied the series at a game apiece. October 12, 2021 – The Sox were beaten 10-1 by the Astros in game #4 of the A.L.D.S. eliminating them from the playoffs and ending their season. But the Sox, despite numerous injuries that caused key players to miss significant stretches of time, still won 93 games and the Central Division title. They had consecutive winning seasons for the first time since 2003-2006 and for the first time in the 120-year history of the franchise made the playoffs in back-to-back seasons. They also beat their crosstown rivals the Cubs, five out of six meetings.
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Fire of a season!
Sorry man, I don't hate them. I envy them and Milwaukee and Tampa Bay. They make the playoffs seemingly every single year. The Sox with all the advantages of a major market can't seem to get out of their own way let along even post a winning season. Only six since 2007 began.
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2027 Rotation
Chris Sale, Carlos Rodon, Dylan Cease, Garret Crochet, Jack McDowell, Alex Fernandez and Wilson Alverez say "hello..." (and those are just the ones that I can think of off the top of my head. Hell Mark Buehrle was as steady and reliable a pitcher as you could find. Consistently winning in double figures, consistently pitching at least 200 innings, consistently starting at least 30 games. JR let him go to Miami. But time will tell if your prediction comes true that JR will allow Getz to offer and sign some 'decent' starting pitchers. Not over the hill, broken down, injury prone retreads just hoping to hang on or refugees from the KBO. I hope you're right. If they play next year the Sox can not be put in a position where they have to start 30-40 games with openers and hope for the best.
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The Official Scoreboard watching thread
No. People like Ken Rosenthal have already discussed that even if it is Milwaukee/Tampa Bay it won't change the owners desire for a salary cap not for competitive reasons but because they want the value of their franchises to increase to the level of the NFL and NBA. One minute after the CBA expires MLB will announce a lockout. The Athletic reported a few days ago a multi page memo has already gone out to teams detailing what they are to do and how they are to react when it begins.
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2026 Appreciation Thread
If you asked that question before June 1, I would have answered 'of course...' But now? Honestly I don't know what I'd do or what the Sox should do. And remember it takes two to make a deal, any other offers he gets will play a major factor in his decision.
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2026 NFL thread
It's really amazing how the 49'ers keep losing good player after player after player to injury. And it doesn't mean a damn thing. They just keep winning.
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2026 NFL thread
Just about right. Hawks are the worst team in the NHL and the Bulls at best will be mediocre. Like I said it's going to be another long cold winter in sports.
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2027 Rotation
Exactly, he's made that philosophy abundantly clear over the years. He is unwilling to take those type risks because of the injury factor. And again he may be exactly right in his thinking. The problem though is the other teams don't feel that way so the Sox are behind the eight ball.
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ALDS - Game 5 - Deciding Game - Sat 10/10 - 7PM Ct
https://chicago.suntimes.com/white-sox/2026/10/11/the-white-sox-offense-powered-their-rise-and-its-holes-hastened-their-demise-munetaka-murakami
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2026 NFL thread
By the way the Bears have now lost six of the eight divisional games they've played in the regular season since the start of last year. Minnesota 1-2 Detroit 0-2 Green Bay 1-2
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2026 NFL thread
Atlanta, New England and Seattle in the next three weeks. If Williams is still out we'll see how "fine" they'll be. And even if he's back that doesn't help the defense does it?
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2026 NFL thread
He should have continued to start even last week vs. the Jets. Remember Bagent had two picks waived off by penalties. Just a God awful Chicago sports weekend. Complete horses#$% Ditka dies, the only thing the Sox did well in Cleveland was strike out, Bears looked atrocious today in Green Bay (offensive genius my ass...) and oh yea, the Blackhawks are the worst team in the NHL and it's not even close. Going to be a very long winter isn't it?
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ALDS - Game 5 - Deciding Game - Sat 10/10 - 7PM Ct
He may not have been wrong given TA's "antics" towards the fans, umpires and other players.
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ALDS - Game 5 - Deciding Game - Sat 10/10 - 7PM Ct
If the Sox had five or six other guys who were all hitting like .260 - .280 and getting on base regularly having all the strike outs by Muni and Montgomery would be managable. But they barely have any guys hitting .250. Yea, that's a problem.
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2026 College Football Thread
Kentucky became the first team in college football history to win back to back games by a single point both in overtime (and both by the exact same score). They knocked off LSU 35-34 Saturday. Last week it was at South Carolina by the same score.
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2026-2027 NHL Thread: Get in losers, we're going losing
This organization looks as bad now as they did in the early 2000's. Just awful across the board with a bunch of "can't miss kids" who apparently can't.
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ALDS - Game 5 - Deciding Game - Sat 10/10 - 7PM Ct
Guardians 2, White Sox 0: Buried by 21 strikeouts - Sox M...In the end, the 2026 White Sox’s postseason lived and died like the 2026 regular season, with a surprising over-.500 record overshadowed by the Cleveland Guardians coming from behind to clip them. Ove
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This Day In Sox History 10/11...
Two factoids today: October 11, 1899 - The new American League was formed in Chicago. The city didn’t have a team in the league at that point but soon got the St. Paul, Minnesota team with their player/manager Charles Comiskey. They set up shop on the South Side at the 39th Street Grounds at 39th and Princeton. October 11, 1991 - Sox manager Jeff Torborg who was named Manager of the Year for 1990 resigned to take the job as manager of the New York Mets. It was a strange move and the real reason for it wasn’t made known until years later as Torborg told individuals and provided examples of how then White Sox G.M. Ron Schueler forced him out wanting to hire his own man, who turned out to be Gene Lamont.
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ALDS - Game 5 - Deciding Game - Sat 10/10 - 7PM Ct
To the victors belong the spoils.
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ALDS - Game 5 - Deciding Game - Sat 10/10 - 7PM Ct
https://chicago.suntimes.com/white-sox/2026/10/10/white-sox-season-ends-with-2-0-shutout-loss-to-guardians-in-decisive-alds-game-5
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2026 Appreciation Thread
It’s going to take time to process everything that’s happened since Wednesday. Short story is this hurts…a lot. What can you say when the Sox lose a 2-0 lead in a best of five series, strike out 21 times in the deciding game and an incredible 52 times in the three losses. "Home Run or Nothing..." That’s mind blowing. But the bottom line remains true today as it did in the 1920’s, 1950’s, 1980’s anytime baseball has been played. PITCHING WINS PENNANTS. Cleveland has been doing this for a decade so maybe we shouldn’t be surprised at what happened. But to be fair what the Sox did this year was remarkable given the state of their pitching staff. A winning season, the first since 2021 and only the sixth since the 2007 season began. A 1% chance to make the playoff, yet they did so. Winning a playoff series for the first time since 2005. Winning a pair of games in the next round. And let's not forget they got farther than the Cubs! (LOL) Those accomplishments need to be absolutely noted. What happens now? Who can say, with the lockout coming and no guarantees baseball will be played in 2027. But if the Sox want to take the next step, assuming they are allowed to invest in talent, one area simply has got to be made the priority. Pitching, pitching and more pitching. Period, end of story. You can’t keep succeeding when you are forced to use an “opener” 30-40 times a season. Be that as it may despite the pain right now, it was a successful year. All we can do now is hope things get settled labor-wise and the Sox do what needs to be done.
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This Day In Sox History 10/10...
Three factoids today: October 10, 1924 - The White Sox and New York Giants began their second barnstorming tour together. This world tour started in 1924 in Canada and would sail the Atlantic to promote the game in France, England, Ireland, Germany and Italy. Most of the exhibition games were hardly visited. The absolute low was a game in Ireland where only 20 persons attended the game. Eventually, the tour would be cut short due to the lack of appreciation and understanding for the sport in England and France. Just like with the 1913/1914 world tour, King George V of England attended the games. These games were the only ones that were well attended as 24,000 people were in the stands. October 10, 1950 - Seattle Rainers manager and former big-league catcher Paul Richards agreed to a two-year deal to become White Sox manager, replacing interim skipper John “Red” Corriden. Richards piloted the unaffiliated Triple-A Rainers to a 96-104 record (yes, they played 200 games in the Pacific Coast League back then), good for sixth place of eight teams. Richards would take a 60-94 White Sox team and improve them by 21 wins and into a first-division (fourth place) finish in 1951. His nearly four full seasons at the helm for the club in the 1950s all were winning seasons, and jump-started a record streak of 17 straight winning years for the White Sox based on his philosophy of excellent speed, very good defense and outstanding pitching. October 10, 2021 – Things did not look good for the Sox in game #3 of the A.L.D.S. against Houston. The Astros led 5-1 and the White Sox were on the verge of elimination. Then everything changed. The Sox rose from the dead scoring five runs in the third inning, three more in the fourth and went on to win 12-6. Finally, after the first 20 hits by the team in the playoff series were all singles, they got a two-run home run from Yasmani Grandal and then a three-run blast from Leury Garcia to turn the game around. Starting a playoff series with 20 straight singles broke the previous Major League record of 19 set by the Angels. Four White Sox bullpen pitchers then threw five hitless innings to close the door on any Astros comeback. Sox pitchers wound up striking out 16 Astros which also set a franchise mark for a playoff game.
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2026 MILB Catch-All
First baseman Anthony DePino, who hit .260/.357/.482 in Double-A this season, underwent a procedure to address a left shoulder/lat injury. Hard-throwing right-handed reliever Pierce George, who struck out 82 in 65 ⅔ innings across four minor league levels this season, suffered an olenacron fracture in his pitching elbow.
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ALDS - Game 5 - Deciding Game - Sat 10/10 - 7PM Ct
Chicago Sun-TimesWhere have all the White Sox' home runs gone?Home-run power carried the Sox’ offense this season. But in the American League Division Series against the Guardians — which will conclude Saturday night with Game 5 — the Sox have a mere two homers.Chicago Sun-TimesWhite Sox disappointed, but not dismayed as they head bac...If you think the White Sox have exhausted their pitching staff with excessive bullpen use in the ALDS, wait until you get a load of what the Guardians did to fuel their comeback.Chicago Sun-TimesWhite Sox right-hander Sean Burke tabbed to start do-or-d...Burke has faced the Guardians four total times across the regular season and postseason and posted a 1.19 ERA, with 27 strikeouts and just four walks in 22 ⅔ innings
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ALDS - Game 5 - Deciding Game - Sat 10/10 - 7PM Ct
Martin has already stated that he's been dealing with a leg injury (hamstring?) if I remember right.