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Some of the White Sox offensive identity is simply personnel. They have the fourth-lowest contact rate in the league because their roster is full of loose movers, long levers and uphill swing paths. Their runs come in huge chunks, as do the whiffs and inconsistency, especially with the roster’s youth. https://chicago.suntimes.com/white-sox/2026/09/09/white-sox-hitting-director-ryan-fuller-talks-offensive-improvement-and-the-development-that-remains-colson-montgomery-munetaka-murakami-miguel-vargas-chase-meidroth

Four factoids today: September 10, 1930 - Future Hall of Famer Luke Appling made his White Sox debut. It was the start of the legacy of great Sox shortstops which included "Chico" Carrasquel, Luis Aparicio and Ozzie Guillen. Appling went 1 for 4 in a 6-2 loss to the Red Sox. September 10, 1954 - Paul Richards, one of the greatest managers in club history, resigned to accept a dual position of general and field manager for the Baltimore Orioles. Richards was the man credited with turning around the fortunes of the franchise in 1951 with his aggressive running/pitching/defensive philosophy. Sox pitcher Billy Pierce called Richards the smartest manager he ever had. Richards was also credited with turning around Nellie Fox, helping make him into a very good hitter. Richards left because the White Sox were not willing to give him a multi-year contract extension or a raise and because of personal disagreements he had with then G.M. Frank “Trader” Lane. One example was Richards letting Lane know about a young player in the Negro League named Ernie Banks who he thought the Sox should look closely at and potentially sign but by then he and Lane basically weren’t on speaking terms and his suggestion was ignored. September 10, 1967 - Coming off two straight losses to the Tigers and in danger of falling out of the pennant race, Joe Horlen threw a no-hitter. Almost 24,000 Sox fans saw Horlen win 6-0. Sox second baseman Wayne Causey saved the no-hitter with a grab of a smash up the middle, off the bat of Jerry Lumpe in the ninth inning. His throw just nipped him at the bag. Horlen hit a Tiger and another reached base on an error, other than that, he was perfect on the afternoon retiring Dick McAuliffe on a ground ball to shortstop Ron Hansen for the final out. Rookie Cisco Carlos then shut out Detroit 4-0 in the second game vaulting the Sox right back into pennant contention. It was the last time in franchise history the Sox would throw double header shutouts. September 10, 1977 - Sox pitcher Wilbur Wood tied the A.L. record by hitting three Angel hitters in a row in the first inning of the club’s 6-1 loss at Anaheim. With two out and a man on, Wood hit Dave Kingman, Don Baylor and Dave Chalk.

Well they've now lost seven of 10.

Only you WBWSF...only you. How much money has he already invested again? How much has he given to Reinsdorf? I can only assume you are trolling now because this makes absolutely zero sense.

I don't think Getz is bringing up either Sandlin or Thorpe. He's got that option but I just don't think he's doing it.

To many holes to pull that off.

Home Run or nothing.

Was watching the football game so I just saw the score and read the box. The Sox got a major break with everybody losing but this team is in trouble. That's seven losses in the last 10 games and I assume Castillo goes on Thursday, let's just say that's not good. The Sox don't really have a lot of choices right now. Getz can stay the course and hope his guys pull out of this but the only options he really has is on the pitching side. Maybe he brings up some guys doing well in the minors and gives them a shot. But that is a HUGE gamble sticking kids in that situation with so much on the line. Back down to five under, still needing seven wins for a winning season. Cleveland is next Monday and right now the Sox have ZERO momentum.

They are winning again today. You hope Martin can pitch well tonight. I think Castillo is scheduled for Thursday (and you know what that probably means...)

And I like the way the poster said Canellis "implied" which means he interpreted the original comments to a certain conclusion which is something Canellis may not have been doing at all.

You really need a hobby or something to take your mind off this 'moving to Nashville' nonsense. Seriously, almost every single time you hear something from somebody who heard it from someone about this you start going into convulsions. "Let me repeat myself" (as Spike Lee said in those classic commercials with MJ) the White Sox aren't moving. Not yesterday (when there were legit rumors back in the 70's), not today and not tomorrow. Maybe a hundred years from now they'll move to the moon, but you and I won't be around so who the hell cares!

From MLB.com: https://www.mlb.com/news/mlb-playoff-races-top-seeds-first-round-byes

Hear what you are writing of course you still have to actually win those games.

Very well said. Pitching always matters in the end.

Read here on the site where supposedly the Sox talked with him about this and he said 'no.' If JR stills owns the club when he hits the market you can say 'so long' to him given what he may be asking for.

Good God!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! It never ends with you does it?

From Paul Sullivan's column today: "Sure, Pham berated an MLB Players Union rep in the clubhouse Tuesday when the poor kid made the grave mistake of asking if he wanted to fill out a players’ award ballot, like many of the rest of the players had done. Pham went into a prolonged rant about the CBA and how the union did nothing for veteran players like him, and told the young rep to relay his feelings to MLBPA executive Bruce Meyer, who is negotiating for the players as they try to remain the last major sport without a salary cap. Unfortunately, no players were around to hear Pham’s rant, and the media just watched in amazement."

SEVEN factoids today: September 9, 1917 - It’s the only time the Sox have ever won a forfeited game. In Chicago against Cleveland, the Indians were protesting a close interference call that went against them in the top of the 10th inning of a tie game at 3-3. The game was delayed for 10 minutes while they argued. When they took the field in the last of the inning, Cleveland players threw their gloves in the air, some rolled around in the dirt and catcher Steve O’Neill deliberately threw a ball into center field. Umpire Clarence “Brick” Owens had enough and declared the game won by the Sox. September 9, 1921 - At Comiskey Park, the White Sox and Tigers played one of the wildest games in Major League history in Chicago’s 20-15 win. Both teams combined for 35 runs, 42 hits and seven errors! The White Sox were led by first baseman Earl Sheely, who went 5 for 5 with five runs scored, five RBIs and fell a double short of a cycle. (Sheely’s was the only homer for the 35-run game.) Johnny Mostil chipped in with four RBI’s. Perhaps most amazing is the fact that the 35 runs were all scored in the first seven innings of the game; the full eighth inning and top of the ninth all were scoreless. September 9, 1931 – At the cross-city exhibition game between the Cubs and White Sox at Comiskey Park a famous, or infamous fan and his son sat along the White Sox side of the field in the front row. The fan was Al Capone, the head of the largest crime syndicate in Chicago known as the “Chicago Outfit.” He took in the game with his son and a number of bodyguards who were seated directly behind them. They were part of a crowd of almost 35 thousand. The game was to benefit an unemployment relief fund established by Illinois governor Louis L. Emmerson as the Depression strengthened its grip on the country. Less than a month later Capone would go to trial on income tax evasion charges, be found guilty, and sent to prison. September 9, 1958 – One of the greatest opening acts in White Sox history keyed a 4-1 win over the Red Sox as Johnny Callison went 3-for-3 with two doubles and a walk in his debut, becoming the first player ever for the club to get on base four times in his first game. Callison doubled but was stranded in the fourth, but his RBI double in the sixth tied the game, 1-1. Callison stood alone in the record book until 2023, when Zach Remillard matched his sparkling debut. September 9, 1983 - The Sox express roared on crushing former Sox great Tommy John and the Angels 11-0. What was significant in this one was, for the first time in team history, the Sox hammered back-to-back-to-back home runs. They were courtesy of Carlton Fisk, Tom Paciorek, and Greg Luzinski in the first inning. It was only the fourth time in A.L. history to that point, a team hit three straight home runs in the first inning. Not to be outdone, pitcher Britt Burns threw a one-hitter. Outfielder Mike Brown’s two out single in the seventh inning was his only mistake. Burns struck out nine in the game. September 9, 2003 - With one move Sox manager Jerry Manuel perhaps cost his team a post season playoff berth and eventually led himself to be fired. In a game the Sox were leading Minnesota 8-2 in the ninth inning, Manuel brought in relief pitcher Jose Paniagua to get some work in. The Sox had a one game lead over the Twins and this was the second of a four-game series at U.S. Cellular Field. Paniagua allowed four runs giving Minnesota momentum even though they’d lose 8-6. The Twins promptly won the final two games, swept the Sox the following week in Minnesota and won the second of three consecutive divisional titles. Paniagua, as he was leaving the field, made an obscene gesture at home plate umpire Mark Carlson and was released by G.M. Kenny Williams the next day. Manuel’s dismissal would come a few weeks later. There has always been debate over the impact of how the Twins didn't quit and came back to make a game of it, but Twins players have been quoted as saying it was a difference maker. September 9, 2017 – White Sox slugger Jose Abreu became only the sixth player in franchise history to hit for the cycle in the Sox 13-1 rout of the Giants. Jose had a home run, double, single and triple in order, to get the rare occurrence. For the night he went 4 for 5 with three runs scored and three RBI’s.

I understand but that doesn't change the fact they've lost six of nine. Games all count.

Just hoping, fingers crossed, this doesn't turn into 1967, 2003 or 2012.

Hope you are right. Right now they've lost six of nine.

No question progress has been made but you'd hope they could finish the job. I get it though these guys have looked spent more and more as the season has gone on.

Yep, if Toronto wins that would certainly make it so.

And to look this way as a team after an off day, yikes.

It's always a gamble having to rely on other teams to help you out. If the Sox can't take care of business it really won't matter.