Jose Abreu

QUOTE (3GamesToLove @ Oct 4, 2015 -> 04:23 PM) Those guys are all better, obviously, but I think if you're top ten in a franchise this old, you definitely count as "one of the best." He's 7th on the list of bWAR for the Sox is within 3 wins of #4. If you want fWAR, then he's #5. Also, not to sound like one of those "did you see him play!?" guys, but you were six years old in '05 so I'm not sure you have the right perspective on Buehrle. I'm surprised that his fWAR is as high as it is among Sox pitchers. And yes, I only watched him from 06-now, but I know exactly how important he was to the 05 team. Pre-05, his numbers don't look like a #1 pitcher. Even with his 3.29 ERA in 2001, his FIP was 4.10.

I personally think we should pick up Alexei's option. He came around both offensively and defensively as the year went on. Saladino would provide similar or better defense, but his hitting would be atrocious as an everyday player.

QUOTE (Lip Man 1 @ Oct 4, 2015 -> 05:09 PM) Perfect way for the Sox to end another crap season...go out with a wimper on offense. Mark Right, because we should've scored runs with that tanking, AA lineup we put on the field today.

QUOTE (flavum @ Oct 4, 2015 -> 04:59 PM) He'll cut back next year. I just hope Swirsky starts acting like pbp guy and not an interviewer, or they get somebody else. I kind of like his interview-style because it plays more to Stone's ill-utilized strengths. But it would be nice if he toned it down a bit

and this season is ovah. it was doomed from the start with Samardzija sucking on opening day. the winning streak in July was nice though. We had a better record than the now first place Rangers at the time.

Anyway, 0.2 innings pitched due to bad defense? Yikes. Does he really want to leave baseball on that note?

7 k thru 4? nice

Those laterals

QUOTE (Rowand44 @ Oct 4, 2015 -> 03:13 PM) It was a catch. QUOTE (Jose Abreu @ Oct 4, 2015 -> 03:02 PM) Am I the only one who thinks the Cooper TD from the 1st half was incomplete? His first foot was down, but he didn't have control of the ball at the time- he bobbled! I watched the replay in slow-motion several times... How is there definitive evidence that he had possession as his foot hit the ground?

QUOTE (Rowand44 @ Oct 4, 2015 -> 03:12 PM) Cutler was brilliant on this drive. Clausen is just terrible. Cutler shows flashes here and there but he'll make bonehead decisions once in a while. Sadly, this was one of his "shows flashes" drives.

Damn it Gould

QUOTE (Quinarvy @ Oct 4, 2015 -> 03:08 PM) He definitely is. Sabermetrics agree, his longevity and his production. Ed Walsh Chris Sale Wilbur Wood Eddie Cicotte Billy Pierce Red Faber Ted Lyons And then there are the pitchers who "put on a Sox uniform" but didn't spend their prime pitching seasons here. Don't get me wrong, Buehrle was a great pitcher for us, but let's not overrate him. His numbers aren't nearly as good as the posters here make them sound.

Cutler throws a 60 yard pass to Cameron Meredith never heard of him

QUOTE (bmags @ Oct 4, 2015 -> 03:03 PM) I was surprised they overturned the call on the field but it was close The rule of thumb is you can't overturn unless there's definitive evidence, and IMO, the "evidence" was indubitably not definitive.

QUOTE (Rowand44 @ Oct 4, 2015 -> 02:56 PM) Missed PAT/not going for 2 on the 2nd td could kill the Bears here. Or help them in the long run for that number 1 pick depending on how you look at it. 20-19, should be 20-20... you're right

Am I the only one who thinks the Cooper TD from the 1st half was incomplete? His first foot was down, but he didn't have control of the ball at the time- he bobbled! I watched the replay in slow-motion several times...

QUOTE (Mike F. @ Oct 4, 2015 -> 02:07 PM) His number has to be retired at some point, right? He's one of the best pitchers to ever put a Sox uniform on. I disagree... but I do think they'll sign him to one of those ceremonial one day contracts.

QUOTE (whitesoxfan99 @ Oct 4, 2015 -> 02:42 PM) Latavius Murray doing his best to give the game to the Bears. Wow has he been f***ing pathetic. Since the announcer said he has the best hands in football, he has dropped three passes and fumbled once.

QUOTE (soxfan49 @ Oct 4, 2015 -> 01:07 PM) I know this means nothing but why take Langford in the 4th if he's going to sit the bench all game? He'll start when we trade Forte tomorrow

I think that should have been ruled an incomplete pass. There was no definitive evidence that he had complete control of the ball when his first foot was down.

Great defensive series

Yay, a Sun-Times link!

QUOTE (Rowand44 @ Oct 4, 2015 -> 12:11 PM) I'm ready to declare Cutler MVP. Ok Brandon Marshall. In all seriousness, he is lightyears ahead of Clausen and thus is very valuable.

Blocked extra point

Happy 27th birthday to Derrick Rose.