Bob Sacamano

DH already paying off for Cubs.

If Cordell wasn't hurt, he could have gotten his shot.

QUOTE (witesoxfan @ Jul 26, 2017 -> 04:19 PM) Went to Liberty University too, I believe, and he was very raw coming out of college. Doesn't surprise me in the least that they took it as slow with him as they did. Oh I didn't know that. Thanks. Still encouraging that he has hit along the way.

QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Jul 26, 2017 -> 04:17 PM) Chuck Garfien‏Verified account @ChuckGarfien 10m10 minutes ago Hahn says they're still talking deals. Nothing huge but says "something might materialize between now and the deadline." Melky and Gonzalez are two I would expect to be gone for sure. Wishing Shields as well. Edit: just checked Shields stats. Doing worse than I thought.

Now imagine a lineup where Melky is traded in next 5 days and Abreu gets a day off while Avi is on the dl.

Who gets called up? Willy?

Wow, this lineup can get worse.

It's actually kind of weird Cordell was brought along slowly. Looking at his stats, he has hit at every level that he's played. Probably more of a "what position is he going to play?" situation. If the Brewers didn't have so much OF depth this year, he probably would have gotten a shot sooner.

QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Jul 26, 2017 -> 04:04 PM) Relevant. Jerry Crasnick‏Verified account @jcrasnick 55m55 minutes ago The chances of #Orioles Zach Britton being traded are growing slimmer by the day. Market for Britton simply hasn't developed. Yeah it's not really a good market to deal him...since there are a bunch of other relievers out there.

QUOTE (iamshack @ Jul 26, 2017 -> 03:57 PM) I'm unconvinced Baltimore is selling...Angelos is nuts. l did forget about Phelps - good catch. Updated list because I forgot Tigers anyway. Also, Brach and Britton being only under control through next season is why I put them on. And there's been rumors.

Relievers moved so far: Robertson Kahnle Swarzak Mauer Madson Doolittle Phelps Relievers likely available: Hand J. Wilson McGowan A. Wilson Stammen Brach Britton Ramos Neshek Benoit Storen Strickland (his name has popped up in rumors) And then add in any reliever on a team in contention and around .500 (Pirates, Cardinals, Angels, etc.) that could decide to sell a few rental BP pieces in the next 5 days. Plus any team selling back-end rotation guys who may end up in a team's bullpen.

QUOTE (iamshack @ Jul 26, 2017 -> 03:41 PM) You mean the price Hahn has accepted for relievers? Billy Beane's deal with Washington is starting to look better and better. No one really gave any praise to Beane in that deal if I recall.

QUOTE (iamshack @ Jul 26, 2017 -> 03:38 PM) Yeah, I hear you, but I guess we need to see how the next 5 days go. I don't think this is nearly the buyer's market as it's been made out to be. Well the price relievers have gone for so far and the fact there are a lot still out there would make it seem differently. Not really sure why you think otherwise. Seems the only one with wool over their eyes is you.

QUOTE (SonofaRoache @ Jul 26, 2017 -> 03:03 PM) Are there any teams you dislike? If yes what are the reasons? ALC teams since what they do on the field effects where we finish in the standings.

QUOTE (greg775 @ Jul 26, 2017 -> 03:13 PM) I know and he's got the built in excuse if he stinks the rest of this year -- bad back. I liked the numbers I saw from this guy even though he's old, or at least was intrigued by the numbers so I am moderately excited for him, but it'd probably be better he not get his call up until next season when he's healthy. Let Engel continue to have his day this year. He can play LF once Melky is moved.

QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Jul 26, 2017 -> 03:06 PM) The Sox taking on Clippard is essentially the White Sox sending the Yankees $4 million. Yep. It wasn't like the Sox took Clippard over another prospect in the deal.

QUOTE (iamshack @ Jul 26, 2017 -> 02:58 PM) I admit I know nothing about this guy, and so hopefully he changes my mind. That said, I would have preferred to get something like what the Red Sox gave the Giants for Nunez. A younger kid with some upside that may pay off much more down the road. I think this is an interesting discussion to have...but I think the GMs that are buying are really pulling the wool over the eyes of the selling GMs right now in terms of reliever value. Teams are basically able to land some quality relievers, which are becoming more and more integral in the postseason than ever, for almost nothing. What is the point of even spending much money on the bullpen at this point? Why take the risk of signing a reliever to a 3/15 contract when I can just wait and see if I'm in contention, and then drop my 20th rated prospect for a rental that makes nothing? The market has shifted so ridiculously towards prospects that it's going to continue to eat into the salaries paid to average veterans and cause labor issues. It's a buyer's market with a ton of relievers still to be moved. That's why this is happening.

QUOTE (Dick Allen @ Jul 26, 2017 -> 01:23 PM) He was old for his level last year and in Colorado Springs this year. But it's possible. Does anyone have any idea when he will be able to play again? Couple weeks apparently.

QUOTE (The Critic @ Jul 26, 2017 -> 01:21 PM) The last two years I've done solo Vegas vacations, and I love it! I miss my wife and daughter, no doubt, but it is so great to not worry about anyone else's schedule or being ready or being tired (or if I get tired or want to cancel something). There are pluses and minuses to traveling solo, but for me there were more pluses. f*** it. Just the validation I need to book a trip.

QUOTE (CaliSoxFanViaSWside @ Jul 26, 2017 -> 12:46 PM) Rumor has it that Abreu will soon have a higher batting average than Avi. Well I expect(ed) that lol

QUOTE (shipps @ Jul 26, 2017 -> 12:42 PM) After following rumbunter for a couple months with anticipation of a potential Q trade to the Bucs I decided that I wish nothing but the worst for the Pirates just because of rumbunter. If they want to believe they can make it into the post-season and offer us the most interesting piece for Cabrera and decide to trade for him, I'm ok with them falling flat on their faces afterwards.

QUOTE (greg775 @ Jul 26, 2017 -> 12:16 PM) How often do the Sox actually give salary relief? Isn't that a no no with Jerry as owner? Isn't it very rare Jerry OKs paying players who play for other teams? Dunn, they released Keppinger with a decent amount of salary left (not a trade but still), Danks (again, not a trade but still paid for him to go away).

QUOTE (RockRaines @ Jul 26, 2017 -> 11:02 AM) Frankly when I am in vegas I am sitting at a table the entire time. Im not fun anyway. Last time I was there for a bachelor party, everyone kept getting split up to play their own games anyway. And there was a long time where I was by myself for a whole afternoon/evening as the bachelor and a few other guys lost their phones like right after I left this cabana party at Flamingo.

QUOTE (Sonik22 @ Jul 26, 2017 -> 11:13 AM) The past two years I've taken a two week vacation by myself in July. It's pretty freeing if your comfortable by yourself. It's always great being able to do whatever you want at any time so I can't recommend it enough. An old co-worker of mine does the same. She went to Hawaii by herself and she said it was so freeing. You do whatever you want, meet people and do stuff with them so you're not alone.

Just gonna leave this here: https://rumbunter.com/2017/07/26/pittsburgh...-melky-cabrera/ Edit: after reading this, he really does make a lot of sense for the Pirates, especially the part where if they got hot and reached the post-season, Marte would be unavailable. Assuming the Sox ate close to all of the remaining salary in a deal with the Pirates, are we looking at a guy or two in the 15-30 range of their prospects?