Bob Sacamano

QUOTE (Y2JImmy0 @ Jan 27, 2017 -> 10:58 AM) They aren't dumb as hell. He doesn't think Lopez has any chance to start, therefore he's not on the list. We really shouldn't be butthurt about what Keith Law thinks anyway though. Exactly haha it has no bearing on how the player's career will go.

Everyone is going to have their own views and opinions on players. I don't really understand why people get upset about rankings.

QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Jan 27, 2017 -> 10:22 AM) What I always understood is that he was OK with Robin most of the time. It was Kenny Williams that Sale hated. It was that way until he tossed Robin under the bus after not defending him about the whole jersey cutting incident.

QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Jan 26, 2017 -> 07:43 PM) Yeah, except Ventura didn't even manage to completely lose his lockerroom or his player respect. Nah, just of our ace pitcher.

QUOTE (Donaldo @ Jan 26, 2017 -> 06:51 PM) Maybe I'm reading too much into it, but the fact that Q will be at SoxFest has me thinking he'll be with the team on Opening Day. He's still a member of the team. Of course he would be there. What would they say to him? "Hey we are trying to trade you so don't come to Sox fest" haha Though, I do agree he is probably going to be the Opening Day starter.

QUOTE (ChiliIrishHammock24 @ Jan 26, 2017 -> 02:31 AM) I don't follow The Score enough to know what roles are being discussed here, but if we are talking on-air talent moved to producer, then yes, that's a downgrade. I worked at a radio station in the market a few years ago and was an on-air talent for my own sports show, and then stayed after and produced the next guy's show for experience. Then we all also took turns being assigned to have to run the board for certain live events or Cubs/NFL games, and THAT was the absolute worst job in the studio. Running the board is the worst. Producing a show and obviously hosting a show can both be fun, depending how much you feel like doing. We simulcasted video live online as well, so producing the later show was actually pretty fun for me because I got to add a lot of content to the video portion of the show that listeners wouldn't even know. Like switching cameras or displaying my laptop screen where we could SHOW traffic and weather as well as websites related to our guests or articles in which the host is referring, etc. It was cool seeing the live feedback on the chatroom when I was able to provide additional info for the viewers. This in reference to Abbatacola (didn't feel like going back)? It would seem like going from producing a show to "reading updates every 20/30 mins" would be a downgrade.

QUOTE (southside guru @ Jan 27, 2017 -> 09:32 AM) How many of us have actually seen Moncada play. My guess not many. My question is...How does an organization give up on a #1 Prospect they signed less than 2 years ago for a 31.5 million dollar bonus? We all believe Chris Sale is awesome. but did we actually get value for this trade? Hope so, but time will tell. Also, would we, as Sox fans, be up in arms if we traded away on a 21 year old #1 Prospect? Current state of the team? Yes If the team was built strong at the MLB level and was trading for a top 5 pitcher in baseball with 3 cheap years of control left and had minor league depth? No

QUOTE (bmags @ Jan 27, 2017 -> 09:03 AM) I mean, probably closer to Dahl/Pint/3rd piece. Robertson would add basically none of the rest. Dahl is really good and already ML proven, don't underrate that. Yeah and he did good. If anything, the Rockies would likely be willing to deal Blackmon away somewhere for prospects instead but I think his price is too high. I think they should move CarGo to 1B and let Desmond play OF personally if his is the current roster they break camp with.

QUOTE (fredmanrique @ Jan 27, 2017 -> 08:03 AM) I wish Colorado would go wild and all in. Q, Abreu, Robertson for Dahl, Rodgers, Hoffman, Tapia, Pint I know it'll never happen but how much would Q alone cost... At some point, I almost feel like Colorado has to make a move like this. At least for Q anyway. Dodgers will always be good and the Giants are usually good.

QUOTE (ChiSoxFanMike @ Jan 27, 2017 -> 08:03 AM) Kopech was wearing #14 and Burdi/Collins were #16, so I don't really think it means anything. Saw this on snapchat as well. Both numbers are retired. Years they were drafted in? With no one wearing number 10, I could see it being accurate for Moncada. Edit: Yes, I'm assuming 14 and 16 are there just for the years they were drafted.

QUOTE (bmags @ Jan 26, 2017 -> 04:35 PM) No they wouldn't. Jones is a year removed from being inactive for almost 2 years. Conforto is already in the show, had a down year but still generated a lot of hard contact. Trading a setup man for good chance at a productive outfielder especially with this teams farm setup is a no brainer to me. That said I doubt conforto is even as available as I discussed. Yeah probably not. I assume Bruce will be on a short leash. Plus there's always potential for a ST injury to one of their guys.

QUOTE (bmags @ Jan 26, 2017 -> 04:25 PM) Granderson Bruce Conforto Cespedes - 4 corner OF. Roster construction, but I guess anything works with that staff when healthy. I was referring to if they didn't have all 4. They picked up his option because of the uncertainty of Cespedes. I'm saying they should have just declined Bruce's option and if it didn't work out with Cespedes, they could have aimed for a real CF since whoever is going to play there is out of position. And then if they failed to get a "true CF" (or stick Lagares out there), then attempt to re-sign Bruce or one of the other options (Moss, Saunders, trade for corner OF, etc.).

QUOTE (bmags @ Jan 26, 2017 -> 04:20 PM) I would be totally stoked about Jones for Conforto. Sox have had really good success on trades like that. I feel like regardless of the situation of Cespedes, they probably should have declined his option. You already have 2 corner OF in Conforto and Granderson and if you failed to re-sign Cespedes, you could try to get a true CF or try to re-sign Bruce to a cheaper deal (I bet he'd still be on the market) or another option.

QUOTE (bmags @ Jan 26, 2017 -> 04:01 PM) It's still crazy to me that they aren't just eating it with Bruce and benching him for Conforto but instead they are jerking Conforto around again. Would love if that were a possibility but I know that's just thinking too much about how Collins doesn't like him, not an organizational dislike. Jones for Conforto...get it done Rick!...or you know, whatever additional pieces on both sides makes it fair.

QUOTE (Chicago White Sox @ Jan 26, 2017 -> 03:49 PM) Yes, I meant Carter, didn't actually know there was a Spencer! I only found out when I Googled their last name and found out they actually play for the same team haha

QUOTE (raBBit @ Jan 26, 2017 -> 03:48 PM) That wasn't the point I was trying to make. For one thing, other than Shields and possibly Robertson (if he sucks this year) the Sox don't have any bad contracts. We've seen teams like Milwaukee and Atlanta basically buy prospects. The idea is take on someone who sucks who has some money on the contract and receive a better prospect or greater package. Or alternatively, eat money on someone you trade. If there is a team that needs a veteran bat in LF who has no payroll room, let's use Pittsburgh as an example, the Sox eat some of the contract. Melky is owed ~7M from June on and the Sox eat 4 million of it to get a B prospect they like instead of a C prospect. It's obviously a strategy that is easy for a fan to get behind, "Hey let's let ownership spend more money so we can get more young players" but innovative executives are employing these tactics. The Braves got Touki Toussaint out of this and the Brewers got Isan Diaz out of this. Every bit counts. While Jay Bruce is better than the type of guy who gets moved with a prospect to just go away, it makes sense. The Mets only picked up his option due to uncertainty with Cespedes in the OF. If Bruce is doing terrible a month into the season, I would hope Rick is free enough to offer a deal where the Sox acquire Bruce and an interesting at worst prospect and Bruce's entire contract for cash considerations type of move seeing as though his contract expires this year. Heck, I'm pretty sure the Dodgers have even done similar to facilitate trades and then just dfa'd the player with the bad contract. My idea really only works if Bruce is doing like Dunn or LaRoche type bad though otherwise they could look to move him for something if he is at least decent.

QUOTE (Chicago White Sox @ Jan 26, 2017 -> 03:40 PM) Robertson & some cash for Kieboom & and a lottery ticket. Spencer or Carter.....or both. nvm just looked at numbers. You definitely meant Carter haha

QUOTE (steveno89 @ Jan 26, 2017 -> 03:39 PM) Severino is great defensively, but outside of his inflated 18 game mlb cup of coffee he has been a pretty mediocre at best hitter A .632 OPS in his minor league career does not inspire me much that he can provide any offensive value in a starting role. He seems like the kind of player that could have a lengthy career as a backup catcher though. Soto is a rising prospect for sure, but I'm not certain I'd want to gamble that much on an 18 year old Soto, Severino plus one more lottery ticket would be a decent framework Also works for me.

QUOTE (ChiSoxFanMike @ Jan 26, 2017 -> 03:18 PM) Robertson and $10 million for Pedro Severino and Juan Soto. An OF prospect who is 18 and a guy we can already plug in at catcher (or leave in the minors for however long it takes to gain an extra year of control)? I can dig it.

QUOTE (WhiteSoxLifer @ Jan 26, 2017 -> 03:00 PM) nats are still looking for closer. romo the best of the free agents. robertson, colome (long shot) trade options https://twitter.com/JonHeyman/status/824722970027458560 Hey, look. A tweet about someone other than Q.

QUOTE (elrockinMT @ Jan 26, 2017 -> 02:43 PM) taking bets on how many pages this grows to Let's do over/under: 47.5

QUOTE (Con te Giolito @ Jan 26, 2017 -> 02:37 PM) How are they going to be terrible if Robertson, Frazier and Abreu all rebound? Seriously that's like 4 wins if those guys "raise their value by the deadline", if Tilson can do anything positive in CF that probably makes up for losing Eaton by itself. Yea they'll get worse losing Sale no doubt but they wont completely fall to being one of the worst three teams in baseball. For them to win fewer than 70 games not only will Frazier, Abreu and Robertson not rebound, it'll probably means they got worse. Or worse yet Rodon and Anderson fall apart. Or nightmare scenario Q gets hurt. That's just as a team managing to """achieve""" a win total. If you want to talk about the offense falling into the woeful Philles/Brewers/Padres nightmare tier, especially with the great Minnesota Twins rotation serving up meat for 19 games, we are talking a cataclysm on offense. Like an absolute bloodbath where nobody is hitting anything. If that happens then you can bet there wont be much value getting improved for the deadline. Nobody seems willing to rectify this at all. Everyone just seems convinced that all the players they want traded will have MAGICAL years of resurgence and value raising, and that Rodon will have a massive season and that all their losses will become of the GRR VILLIANS like Avi and Tilson. Its all fantasy, its trying to convince yourself that what you want to happen for the Sox will happen. It's not a slam dunk that everyone will rebound yet you keep working off the assumption they are. It's possible guys like Shields and Holland don't bounce back, that Gonzalez implodes. It's possible that Anderson takes a step back and whoever we plug in at DH, C, 2B with injuries, the 2 OF spots do terrible.

QUOTE (ChiSox59 @ Jan 26, 2017 -> 02:35 PM) Which is EXACTLY what he should do. While that is an obvious statement, I think he meant to include that he will likely go before the season starts. That's how I interpreted it anyway.

QUOTE (GreatScott82 @ Jan 26, 2017 -> 02:30 PM) It sounds like Hahn isn't budging but definitely intends on dealing Q and Frazier to the top bidders with this quote. I was reading a lot of that 'de-LaRoche only and not rebuilding' crap which was starting to make me worried. That's what it seems like.

Trump is definitely moving quick on a lot of fronts. Must be difficult for the Democrats to figure out what they want to protest next.