Bob Sacamano

QUOTE (OmarComing25 @ Jan 25, 2017 -> 01:53 PM) I'm just confused as to how you think Frazier/Quintana by themselves are the difference between 75 wins and a potential 120 loss season. Even with Quintana projections have the Sox as the 3rd worst team in baseball at the moment. That might be a bit low considering the impact Moncada/Lopez/Giolito could have when they come up, but I don't think it's far off. This team is bad, and as things stand I'm not sure any other AL team should be considered below us, even the Twins. In the NL I think the Padres, Reds and Brewers are the only teams I'd really put us above right now, but with the relative weakness of the NL I'm not even that confident about it. Oakland has to be below us.

They don't need to trade all of their pieces at one time (at least not the ones signed for only this year).

QUOTE (Dubzinski rules @ Jan 25, 2017 -> 01:33 PM) I didn't feel as though Beck had enough potential to take innings away from these others. I'm hoping the rebuild gives the Sox a reason to keep Burdi in a starting role until he fails at it. We won't need him in the MLB pen this year. I should have clarified that Beck will likely be a candidate for a starting or bullpen gig (mop up guy/spot starter) at the MLB level. Also, they can't keep Burdi in a starting role if he was never one to begin with.

QUOTE (Dubzinski rules @ Jan 25, 2017 -> 12:50 PM) As a proponent of "good pitching beats good hitting" I like to forecast the starting pitchers at each minor league level. Many of you follow our minor leagues much closing than I do so please feel free to give us your lists and thoughts. AAA--Giolito/Fulmer/Lopez/Holmberg/Danish AA--Guerrero/Kopech/Adams/Burdi/Stephens Hi A--Martinez/Dunning/Thompson/Lowry/Banks (Cooper?) Lo A--Flores/Hansen/McRee/Comito/Solorzano Is Beck still around or is he a candidate to be a 5th starter or long-reliever role? Also, doubt that Burdi will be a starter.

QUOTE (Special K @ Jan 25, 2017 -> 01:05 PM) Melky had a good year last year. Frazier hit 40 hrs. They could be traded for some flyer prospects. They have to decide in July if "some flyer prospects" or the potential compensation pick is going to be the route to go with Frazier.

QUOTE (bmags @ Jan 25, 2017 -> 09:33 AM) Lawrie will get injured. He always does. True, but I would expect Moncada to basically play every day at 2B from about June/July through the rest of the remainder of the season. Frazier may or may not get traded in June/July (they could hold onto him and possibly get a comp pick) and even then, they may give playing time to someone like Davidson or Delmonico if either is hitting in the minors.

QUOTE (bmags @ Jan 25, 2017 -> 09:28 AM) Saladino. Barring back injury being a forever thing, the guy has surpassed expectations at each turn. I would guess Saladino as well but I just don't see him getting enough regular at bats.

QUOTE (bmags @ Jan 25, 2017 -> 09:21 AM) I think the opposite, while there are no indications anything is close, if not's done before friday, I'm out on it happening. Agreed 100%. My own speculation, but I'm betting Soxfest is an unofficial, soft deadline. No talking until another team's GM calls and offers exactly what Hahn wants.

QUOTE (Y2JImmy0 @ Jan 25, 2017 -> 08:46 AM) I think if guys like Call and Curbelo are top 15 prospects, then this system probably isn't as good as people think it is. It's very top heavy. The next 2 years are very important. Agreed. Which is why I don't think it is too crazy that some analysts may rank us closer in the 10-15 range. Sox have definitely improved their system though.

Rymer Liriano...based on absolutely nothing.

QUOTE (bighurt574 @ Jan 24, 2017 -> 04:13 PM) Pretty much everyone left are small market franchises reluctant to trade away a bunch of prospects -- HOU, PIT, COL, ATL. And HOU is really the only immediate contender in that group. Perhaps that changes at the trade deadline with injuries, slumps, etc. Or a team like HOU might realize they need a SP after all. Hopefully the Yankees play good to the point where they may look for a starter. Rockies too. Dodgers could be a fit at that time. Just gotta hope whatever teams could have potential rentals (Tanaka, Darvish, Cueto, etc) are doing good too.

Like someone mentioned yesterday, if they don't offer Meadows or Bell, I would counter-offer with 4 of their best prospects excluding the 2 mentioned plus their competitive balance pick.

This thread needs a new tweet...either teams are close to a deal or teams are backing off and waiting to discuss a deal at a later date. Edit: I predicted that there will possibly be a deal done by Wednesday/Thursday using Soxfest as an unofficial deadline.

http://www.royalsreview.com/2017/1/24/1436...nfirmed-reports Horrible if true.

QUOTE (Baron @ Jan 23, 2017 -> 06:58 PM) I think De Leon is going to be a number 4 starter when it's all said and done. Which isn't a bad thing to be honest.

QUOTE (Nokona @ Jan 23, 2017 -> 06:01 PM) DeLeon to the Rays for Forsythe. Interesting.... Yep and there's already a thread for this kind of stuff.

Giants sign Jae-Gyun Hwang to minor league deal.

Pirates will never give up what the Sox want. I said they were a bad fit all along. They seem like a perfect match but they feed off their farm system.

QUOTE (flavum @ Jan 23, 2017 -> 01:18 PM) Sox invite 19 to major league camp. Names coming... INFs Cody Asche & Everth Cabrera, LHPs David Holmberg & Cory Luebke, C Roberto Pena, RHPs Blake Smith & Anthony Swarzak, C Geovany Soto. He must have been signed today or something because that's a new one.

QUOTE (Y2JImmy0 @ Jan 23, 2017 -> 08:57 AM) Yes he did. I pressed him about it last night. My handle is JamesFox917. I suggested that as the package and he liked it on twitter. Those are the names being bandied about. He just can't confirm it. Honestly, I'd probably consider Glasnow, Keller, Newman, and Hayes if they added their Competitive Balance pick. That's 3 top 50 prospects, a young 3B that can hit and a 2nd round pick. I would do that deal as well. And I definitely didn't see it in his series of tweets. My bad.

QUOTE (Buehrlesque @ Jan 23, 2017 -> 08:38 AM) No Meadows, no Bell, no deal. Pretty simple. As I pointed above, Rumbunter never hinted or suggested that the above package is the offer Hahn recently rejected.

QUOTE (reiks12 @ Jan 23, 2017 -> 08:04 AM) Dont know if this got lost in the discussion but that Rumbunter guy tweeted that Hahn turned down a "hefty" deal from the Pirates. Hinted its Glasnow, Keller, Newman, and Diaz. I actually don't see where he says this. Another poster just said that Hahn isn't crazy for rejecting that package but don't see Rumbunter saying that is the deal.

QUOTE (soxforlife05 @ Jan 22, 2017 -> 06:03 PM) They were never trading Moncada and Devers together because that creates a hole they can't fill internally at 3B. I'm surprised they didn't offer Frazier with Sale to try to get Devers added. That still doesn't make sense. Devers is not playing in the MLB this year. And Frazier is only under control for one year.

QUOTE (SCCWS @ Jan 22, 2017 -> 01:58 PM) I think it is getting to the point where a full tear down will not happen or was not the plan. I can see holding out on Q but I think the fact that none of the 2nd tier players have been traded is a sign that the goal was to unload Eaton and Sale. Maybe that was a compromise between Hahn wanting a full tear and KW wanting a half-tear. Those second tiers guys really don't have much a market either though.

QUOTE (CWSpalehoseCWS @ Jan 22, 2017 -> 12:56 PM) Sports Mockery Hardly what I would call a rumor. Jim Duquette suggested the White Sox were a good fit and they wrote an article about it. Oh yeah. That's not "Sox trying to sign Wieters."