Bob Sacamano

QUOTE (pablo @ Jan 18, 2017 -> 06:11 PM) Definitely have to disagree with you. Like ptatc was saying, there is no reason for the Sox to have a firm "we have to be good again by X date". Rebuilds do not have a timetable, rather you acquire as many good assets as you can and hope they come together at a certain point. Keeping Q just in case Sox are good in 2019 is probably the wrong mindset. There is simply no way to expect when they could contend again, especially so early in the rebuild Agreed 100%. Putting a timetable on it of say 2-3 years has a better chance of disappointing us than not.

QUOTE (reiks12 @ Jan 18, 2017 -> 04:25 PM) Still looks so much better than SD!!! Sadly I agree lol

QUOTE (ChiSox59 @ Jan 18, 2017 -> 04:18 PM) Pretty much. yah. Hopefully Saladino gets a good chunk of ABs as well. I would like him at 2B, personally. Edit: don't think it was posted here but a writer on mlb.com (I think it was) listed Saladino as a good trade option at 2B for the Dodgers referencing his WAR and defense.

QUOTE (ChiSox59 @ Jan 18, 2017 -> 04:14 PM) Yah, at this point in his "development", may as well just give him 300+ at bats and see if he can do anything. I agree, if they were to deal Frazier, I would probably plug him in at third (if he isn't already getting at bats between 1B/3B/DH with Frazier and Abreu).

Without Q, we are looking at a rotation of: Rodon Shields Gonzalez (maybe he can get flipped mid-season) Holland One of Covey, Beck, or other Starting lineup would be: C Narvaez, Soto 1B Abreu (could be traded but seems unlikely) 2B Lawrie, Moncada second half unless he is doing terrible at AAA 3B Frazier (could be traded mid-season) SS Anderson LF Melky (could be traded mid-season) CF Tilson, Liriano RF Garcia, Liriano DH Davidson? Garcia or probably more likely a late MLB signing (Carter, Lind, Alvarez)

QUOTE (hi8is @ Jan 18, 2017 -> 02:20 PM) .259 / .315 / .472 41 HR / 32 2b's / 106 RBI Half of which comes with the Sox and the other half with the Mets. After David Wright suffers yet another season ending (possibly career ending) injury.

QUOTE (Y2JImmy0 @ Jan 18, 2017 -> 02:31 PM) Remember though, they can't trade for space until after July 2nd. There's a solid chance that the Sox have agreements with guys and don't officially get the $$ to sign immediately. They can acquire space from July 2nd until June 15th 2018 I believe. I agree with you though that it should be interesting. That's a good point.

The question is, do we sit out this summer and wait and see if Otani is coming over for sure or not in the winter? I haven't seen any confirmation that he is definitely coming.

QUOTE (steveno89 @ Jan 18, 2017 -> 01:31 PM) I'd love to see the Rockies make a play for Q and offer up Rodgers/Dahl, Hoffman/Pint, Murphy, Freeland, Tapia, Marquez (some combination of) Rodgers and Dahl are going to be studs Heck, give me Rodgers, Dahl plus one more guy (even a lottery ticket) and I'll take that deal. They get to keep most of their prospect depth with a strong front package.

If we hold onto him, we just need teams like the Rockies, Astros, Pirates, Dodgers, and even the Yankees to play good the first 3-4 months and all of a sudden, his value is higher due to more teams being competitive and needing another starter (competitive teams are always looking for a starter). Heck, you might be able to get some of their rivals in discussions. The teams I listed are the teams I want to trade with the most.

QUOTE (Chicago White Sox @ Jan 18, 2017 -> 06:44 AM) Team is not nearly bad enough to get into the Beer mix as it stands today. Agreed. I think we are outside to top 5 picks as of right now.

QUOTE (steveno89 @ Jan 18, 2017 -> 08:26 AM) I agree That Padres rotation is beyond awful. That team is going to get run train on by the MLB. I would go so far as to say our AAA rotation is significantly better than their mlb rotation. Seriously. They are probably looking at a 50-112 record. Over/under I'm putting at 52.5 wins.

QUOTE (Jerksticks @ Jan 17, 2017 -> 07:32 PM) Sounds like a deep package you guys are drooling over. What are the odds that package satisfies us fans for the long haul. Who would you bet to be the Allstar that comes closest to mathing Q-level WAR? High possibility none of them do but this club is in a position to take that risk.

QUOTE (Jerksticks @ Jan 17, 2017 -> 04:59 PM) For real. You just gotta mail it to Texas. And if you are a hawk-hater, please don't smash it to pieces out of spite I won't lol

QUOTE (Knuckles @ Jan 17, 2017 -> 04:21 PM) "For those of you wishing tommy john upon me right now: I hope you dont get carpel tunnel at your desk job" -- @miachaelkopech5 Lol that's great. And seriously, why do people wish injury onto players?

QUOTE (bmags @ Jan 17, 2017 -> 01:20 PM) Aside from stats, Guerrero is one of those players that is just "hall-worthy" for how memorable they were. Laser throws from outfield, golf swing home runs. He was just awesome. QUOTE (Dam8610 @ Jan 17, 2017 -> 03:45 PM) Vladimir Guerrero is the only player I've ever seen turn an intentional walk into a double. They were trying to pitch around him, and the pitcher threw the ball eye high and over the left handed batter's box, but Guerrero slapped it down the right field line for a double. He's also the only player I've ever seen hit a home run off of a ball that bounced before it got to home plate. Vlad was one of my favorite players ever growing up.

QUOTE (Jerksticks @ Jan 17, 2017 -> 03:24 PM) Shiiiiit. I'll already give somebody on here $100 bucks to go get me one. Deal.

QUOTE (hi8is @ Jan 17, 2017 -> 03:18 PM) If the Marlins suck by the deadline and decide to sell - anyone think RH tries to trade for Stanton? And give up a good chunk of what we just received/will receive? Pass.

QUOTE (WhiteSoxLifer @ Jan 17, 2017 -> 02:46 PM) The #Astros, in need for a starter, remain engaged with #WhiteSox for Jose Quintana, #Rays for Chris Archer and #Athletics for Sonny Gray. https://twitter.com/BNightengale/status/821457595886141441 Yaaaaaaaaaaawn. Edit: It's literally the same report every few days lol "Team X (Pirates, Astros, or Yankees) still talking to Sox about Quintana."

I don't know if its his attitude so much. Based on the social media I've seen, he kinda comes off as a tool. But then again, anyone 21 or younger seems to in some way. I don't really care as long he can pitch.

Weird hearing Bernstein and Goff together. I think this is actually better than Boers and Bernstein.

QUOTE (raBBit @ Jan 17, 2017 -> 11:02 AM) Adderall. A PED in recovery, endurance and focus. Thanks for clearing that up. I knew it was something but didn't know what.

QUOTE (ChiSoxFanMike @ Jan 17, 2017 -> 10:49 AM) This guy is like Noah Syndergaard on steroids. Good god. QUOTE (coco1997 @ Jan 17, 2017 -> 10:51 AM) Hopefully not literally. Well, didn't he already have a PED suspension of some sort? haha

QUOTE (Jerksticks @ Jan 17, 2017 -> 08:02 AM) Is Q Buehrle with some velocity? Yes.

QUOTE (CaliSoxFanViaSWside @ Jan 16, 2017 -> 07:43 PM) So will this thread be locked before the Sox trade Q ? Absolutely