Bob Sacamano

QUOTE (caulfield12 @ Jan 15, 2017 -> 11:18 PM) The problem with that is it's hard to market Robertson/Jones/Holland simultaneously as closers. Seems that one needs to be moved (Robertson or Jones) to clear the way...since presumably Burdi will be the man beginning in 2018, unless Nate Jones is somehow still around and they want Burdi to break into the majors as a set-up guy first. Not sure about the wisdom of doing that, since he's closed his entire collegiate career. Addison Reed basically took over the closer's spot as a rookie, as well. Santos had to earn his way there, but his background was different, as he started out as a first round draft pick SS with the DBacks. Not a problem at all. In fact, it seems like that would increase the market for Robertson. Holland being on board could be the closer for half the season and then flipped. Jones, being signed for 5 years, would close the rest of the 2017 season post-Holland trade and if not traded in the off-season, would be the closer entering 2018.

QUOTE (TheFutureIsNear @ Jan 16, 2017 -> 07:51 AM) Love all the people trying to push Collins out of C when they've never even seen the kid play. All reports have him making good progress and it hasn't even been a full year yet. Collins is the C of the future until he proves he can't do it at the MLB level. If his catching was as bad as people around here make it out to be he would have been moved already. Anyway...I still find it hard to believe the Astros don't finally get the deal done. Been saying all along that it makes way too much sense for them. I'd rather see us get a haul from the Yankees though. Frazier, Mateo/Rutherford, Kaprielian/Sheffield is my preferred package. Sounded like Cashman is balking at that but who knows, could all just be posturing. No one is trying to push him off. Doesn't hurt to have more options.

QUOTE (ChiSoxFanMike @ Jan 15, 2017 -> 05:21 PM) I'm assuming that he'll be a starter on next years team. Really? What position?

QUOTE (Deadpool @ Jan 14, 2017 -> 01:53 PM) Illustrates fairly well why it will be hard to move any of them. If they don't project out to a decent WAR, the power just doesn't matter. Hitting home runs isn't enough anymore. (Looks over at Chris Carter)

QUOTE (Eminor3rd @ Jan 14, 2017 -> 01:22 PM) Why buy him at peak price a year before you really need him? They could get him next year when Arietta is gone and give up less. Or they could sign one of the millions of high-end free agents. Yeah they can wait until next off-season to deal for him plus sign a free agent starter

QUOTE (BlackSox13 @ Jan 13, 2017 -> 02:05 PM) Thank you Atlanta! /End thread

QUOTE (Al Lopez's Ghost @ Jan 13, 2017 -> 11:50 AM) So Meadows projects to be a better center fielder than Rob Mackowiak? Too bad that guy couldn't play defense. I just looked at his offensive numbers and they look solid.

QUOTE (Al Lopez's Ghost @ Jan 13, 2017 -> 11:48 AM) Just by way of comparison, Johnny Bench (maybe the best?) totaled 70 WAR in his 12 prime seasons. So an average of 5.83 WAR per season. Nice.

QUOTE (FT35 @ Jan 13, 2017 -> 11:46 AM) Trying to come up with a decent MLB comp for Austin Meadows if he develops the way he should...curious to see what you all think. Solve: Austin Meadows >/= Adam Eaton? Austin Meadows >/= Grady Sizemore? Any other ideas? Grady Sizemore was a hell of a player. Too bad injuries really did him in.

QUOTE (bmags @ Jan 13, 2017 -> 11:41 AM) I feel like Catcher war is often lower due to games played, is that an accurate statement? Probably. Maybe it's adjusted? I'll admit that I have no clue.

QUOTE (witesoxfan @ Jan 13, 2017 -> 11:30 AM) Some punk blogger who lives in his mom's basement. Yeah who obviously has no connections who work for the White Sox.

QUOTE (Jerksticks @ Jan 13, 2017 -> 11:12 AM) If you had to bet all your money, like HAD to...would you have him closer to a .700 or .800 OPS? Love the guy above me- "Na man, closer to .900." Love it! I'm going closer to .800. Maybe around .760-.785 OPS.

QUOTE (witesoxfan @ Jan 13, 2017 -> 11:14 AM) 5 players in baseball put up a .390 or better OBP last year and only 3 of those hit 30 homers. I would guess closer to Brian McCann numbers if he hits his peak, and more mid to late career McCann than early career McCann, .250/.340/.460, something like that. If he hits over 20 homers and can stick behind the plate, I take those numbers all day.

QUOTE (peavy44 @ Jan 13, 2017 -> 11:00 AM) https://t.co/Be5NXaCWNt Good read by Brian Bilek There's already a thread about this.

QUOTE (Con te Giolito @ Jan 12, 2017 -> 09:45 PM) At this point the Sox should be pitting teams offers against each other, not against the idea of the Sox holding onto Quintana. Why would you think they aren't already doing this?

I don't get access to twitter at work so they have broken news to me.

QUOTE (Deadpool @ Jan 12, 2017 -> 06:29 PM) Elite Prospects >>>> "Major league ready talent" Elite prospects are major league ready at somepoint so in a lot of cases, samr thing.

QUOTE (steveno89 @ Jan 12, 2017 -> 05:52 PM) If the offers were up to par then Quintana would have been traded already I'm guessing right now the offers stand at: Houston: martes, tucker, paulino Pirates: Glasnow, Newman, Diaz/Hayes/Craig Sox aren't biting I get that. I'm not saying otherwise haha

QUOTE (JRL @ Jan 12, 2017 -> 05:36 PM) There was clearly a lot in my post that addressed other common sentiments re the need to trade Quintana now, as opposed to holding until the deadline or through the season, in addition to addressing what you did say. Your contention that Quintana's trade market at the deadline or next offseason is significantly effected by "factoring in next year's free agent market on pitching" could have meant only either/both/some combination of 2 possible things: 1. Teams won't trade as much for him at the deadline , because they can trade for other pending free agent pitchers at the deadline; 2. Teams won't trade as much for him at the deadline or next offseason, because they can sign a pitcher who will be a free agent after 2017 during next offseason. It was unclear which you meant, simply addressed why both of those contentions, don't necessarily hurt Quintana's trade value. You also said that only those teams that have currently been reported with rumored interest in him now would be the only teams possibly interested in him throughout the season and beyond, and that the offers received for Quintana at some point during or after the season would only "be the same at best", so I also addressed why additional teams might become interested in Quintana, and why there is a good possibility that offers received around the deadline, and even possibly next offseason, may well be better than what the Sox are being offered currently, or at least more suitable to the Sox. I am not saying that this will 100% be the case, just that it is a possibility. I have no way of knowing that forsure, and quite frankly, thought they have far more info than we do, neither do the Sox. Their job is to use the far better and more plentiful information that they have compared to us, and do the best they can to determine whether it will or won't likely be the case and determine the best path to take re trading or holding Quintana, and until when, based on that conclusion. But, to claim that "at best" the offers on Quintana will be the same down the road, and therefore it is most likely best to trade him now is not sound. It's certainly one possibility, but it's at best an equally likely possibility as them doing better down the road. Fyi, I'm not advocating they trade him now just that we might be looking at the best offers now. Hopefully July brings us some surprise contenders if they end up not trading him now. Granted all the teams can't put together a competitive enough offer to trade for him. Ideally, Yankees are playing well going into July.

QUOTE (JRL @ Jan 12, 2017 -> 04:46 PM) a) who are all these pitchers that will be available at the deadline? To be fair, I never said there would be a lot of guys available at the deadline and never suggested they'd get less trading him then than now. Sucks you typed all that thinking I did. I said "if they don't trade him by the trade deadline."

QUOTE (BlackSox13 @ Jan 12, 2017 -> 04:14 PM) Yes sir. 2017 is the first year of the 5/35M extension he signed. Starling Marte contract is also great. Edit: you sure you didn't mean 7? He's signed for 7 more years.

QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Jan 12, 2017 -> 03:58 PM) Scary thing? Polanco will still be under contract when Vlad Jr is 24-25. He's signed for that long? Edit: Holy s***, just checked. Why did he do that to himself lol I mean, it's good to take the guaranteed money but he will be a free agent after his age 31 season. Second edit: they bought out 3 years of free agency for him. Good for them.

QUOTE (RegionSox @ Jan 12, 2017 -> 03:46 PM) I just saw on Twitter that Abbatacola is going to be the full time update anchor for Bernstein and Goff. So he's replacing Rongey?

QUOTE (Buehrlesque @ Jan 12, 2017 -> 03:51 PM) Probably not, unless acquiring Vlad Jr. makes them more comfortable trading Meadows to the Sox. Yeah I don't see the connection. By the time he is ready to make an impact, I'm pretty Polanco and Marte would be traded/left via free agency by that time.

QUOTE (Whitesoxa6 @ Jan 12, 2017 -> 03:46 PM) Heard that the pirates could be targeting Vlad Jr. In a McCutchen-Jays swap. Not sure if he would really move the needle on a potential Q package though Where did you see this? And yeah he seems like he would be too far away too make an impact on any deal that could involve closer to ready MLB prospects from getting dealt.