Bob Sacamano

QUOTE (iamshack @ Jul 26, 2017 -> 10:50 AM) Sox reinstate Petricka from DL. So how long until he goes back on the DL? We should start a pool.

QUOTE (NorthSideSox72 @ Jul 25, 2017 -> 10:25 PM) Get to know Ryan Cordell right here. All the detail you need. Probably back end of Top 30 in this system, or just outside of it. MLB has him as our #18, 9th overall if you take out all the guys from the trades we got over the past 8 months.

QUOTE (Brian @ Jul 24, 2017 -> 02:59 PM) My cousin goes to Vegas by himself every once in awhile. Is that weird? Lol this is about to be me. Found $120 round trip to Vegas and $40/night at the Flamingo but everyone I contact can't go at that time or are already going when I can't. Just recently got out of a relationship so I may end up going by myself and having fun on my own lol

QUOTE (KnightsOnMintSt @ Jul 26, 2017 -> 10:21 AM) Hoping that we now see Reynaldo Lopez called up at some point today. Offered free tickets for the game tomorrow. Would make me excited to go if he is called up to start.

QUOTE (steveno89 @ Jul 26, 2017 -> 10:01 AM) This doesn't seem like the right market to trade Avi in at all. He's very likely staying put. Yeah, look into it next deadline (if he is even still playing well).

QUOTE (steveno89 @ Jul 26, 2017 -> 09:58 AM) I'm sure the salary will be a talking point, but it's not always as simple as "Sox should eat salary to get a better return". While in essence I agree, we should always try to get the best return possible, the Sox can only eat so much money before it stops making sense. The Sox splurged and spent more than $50 million on the Robert signing, which is very significant for the franchise. It was key to save roughly $20 million in the Frazier/DRob/Kahnle deal to help offset some of that cost, although it likely resulted in the return being a bit less than we would have liked. Yeah and a team could easily say that they want to take on all/most of the contract in order to give up less.

So our OF for next year can possibly look like: LF Cordell CF Engel/Tilson RF Garcia (if not traded)

Lol basically what everyone figured. The whole "Reinsdorf won't trade with the Cubs" ended up being very close.

Has there been any Avi rumors of late?

QUOTE (steveno89 @ Jul 26, 2017 -> 08:58 AM) I think Jennings will stay with the Sox for the time being. The market is flooded with relievers and Jennings is not having a terrific season or anything. He would not bring back much in a trade right now. Agreed.

QUOTE (RockRaines @ Jul 26, 2017 -> 08:55 AM) Yep, still shocked that he had any value. He's basically performed WAY over his head, is a rental and is really more of a middle reliever than a set up guy or closer. Pretty amazing. Oh and he's 31. I literally said when they signed him: "they just need guys to eat inning at the MLB level and that's it. Minor league deal so it doesn't hurt." So yeah, I'll take this. Time to start looking at other relievers we can sign for cheap to help fill innings for next year.

Running out of guys to trade. Have this guy under control through 2019. Might be better off holding onto him until next deadline. He is doing good against lefties this year however.

QUOTE (fathom @ Jul 26, 2017 -> 08:45 AM) Rentals seem to have no value. The Giants got very little for Nunez. Yeah the infield market and reliever market was/is pretty flush.

They get an MLB ready bat to stick in the order when he is healthy/Melky gets dealt. Good get for 2 months of a guy having a career year. Can't say I expected that. Holding onto Swarzak would have been pointless. I would have no problem with them re-signing him, even if it has to be multiple years.

QUOTE (Dick Allen @ Jul 26, 2017 -> 08:01 AM) Some scouts do seem to love this guy, but tfor me, there was caution even before I had known he was out a month with a back issue. Right now, it's a blah trade. In a year or two, maybe he's really good. I just wouldn't count on it. The only thing is, if Hahn is pulling the trigger, either other teams aren't offering much or the White Sox really like this guy. Probably more this. I bet at least 6 more relievers go between now and deadline.

We get a bat who can plug into an OF spot immediately when he is healthy and when Melky and possibly Garcia are moved. We don't have many bats in the system that are close or ready for another 2-3 years so he gets an opportunity to prove himself during that time.

I'm gonna go with yes as a mid-rotation guy.

QUOTE (iamshack @ Jul 26, 2017 -> 07:41 AM) You missed the s***show, sorry. Saw the one tweet about a scout saying we'd get a prospect outside of top 150 (if that's what you're defining as vast majority) and they did exactly that. No top 150 prospect.

QUOTE (iamshack @ Jul 25, 2017 -> 11:09 PM) I called people sheep for accusing me of being an idiot for wanting a player better than Ryan Cordell, when that was nowhere near what the vast majority was speculating prior to the deal occurring. Just because Rick Hahn made the trade doesn't suddenly mean we all have to think it's wonderful, does it? And yet that is what is expected here. See the difference? Vast majority of...posters on this board who aren't scouts or gms? Only thing we all know (except you apparently) is that it is a buyer's market.

QUOTE (iamshack @ Jul 25, 2017 -> 10:34 PM) There is something called groupthink that happens, and it absolutely happens here. Compare the threads discussing what we think should be the returns for players, and then compare the actual returns for players. The difference is ridiculous. Yeah...that just means we were shooting to high. Whats your point? We're not gms or scouts who can evaluate trade value.

QUOTE (Tony @ Jul 25, 2017 -> 10:16 PM) For 48 innings. At 31 years of age. Coming off a season where he posted a 5.52 ERA. Who registered his first career save this week. Who is a FA at the end of the season. He just isn't a valuable investment to make for a team. Do you think Hahn passed up a package that was better? Do you think he could have negotiated a better deal with another team? Easy to say "Hahn should have gotten more!" without actually knowing what was offered.

He's having a great year, but there were factors working against the Sox dealing Swarzak: other relievers still on market, the fact he is a rental, and no track record.

Looking like Gray and Alonso are going to Oak. Not official yet.

QUOTE (BlackSox13 @ Jul 25, 2017 -> 02:57 PM) I wouldn't object to keeping Melky around. When Abreu DH's, Melky plays LF and when Melky DH's Abreu can play 1B. Most of the Sox best hitting talent is a few years away anyway so Melky wouldn't be blocking any young talent. I got nothing against the Melkmeister. I'm good trading him for whatever and then bringimg him back.

QUOTE (fathom @ Jul 25, 2017 -> 04:25 PM) Something that is ridiculous is the media will focus on Hawk's rant after the game instead of Lackey hitting more people than Addison Russell Was Lackey hitting guys intentionally? Why does this always have to be the case? Can't it be that a guy just sucks and hit 4 guys? What did he even say?