Bob Sacamano

QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Feb 7, 2017 -> 12:50 PM) Who? Otani. Sorry. I searched him and this thread came up and I clicked into it without reading.

So has there been anything confirming that Otani is going to come over next off-season?

QUOTE (Leonard Zelig @ Feb 7, 2017 -> 12:29 PM) Is this really a thing? Lol I thought that was a weird thing to say as well but just kind of let it go haha

QUOTE (flavum @ Feb 7, 2017 -> 11:59 AM) Robertson would be a good salary dump / way to get worse. Get a low level, lottery ticket. They'll do better than that.

USA Today has the Sox at 68-94. Don't know if that is based on numbers and data projections or not but it seems about right.

Trading Q soon would have to put us bottom 3 and in 5th place, right? RIGHT?

QUOTE (beautox @ Feb 7, 2017 -> 11:01 AM) I would like to see Hahn deliver something like this. Robertson and Lawrie to the nats for Kieboom, Soto, Luzardo and Watson. Nats get to keep Robles as the heir apparent to harper and pitching depth in Feede and Cole and their back up catcher in Severino. Sox get good high ceiling low floor assets across the board in Kieboom who could be moved off SS to 3B or C, Soto who is likely ticketed for LF and two left handed arms in Luzardo that had TJ and is coming back and Watson who has a lot of projection left. Has he ever even caught before?

QUOTE (steveno89 @ Feb 7, 2017 -> 10:37 AM) Sox have plenty of payroll flexibility, the issue for them comes down to getting at least one or two solid prospects in return for him. Sox have never been an organization that loves to send a bunch of cash over in trades to make them happen, but in this case I think 6-8 million would make Robertson's deal a 2 year, 17-19 million deal. Which is not a horrible value for him at all While that may be true, they did release Danks when he was owed most of his $15 mill last year so you never know.

QUOTE (steveno89 @ Feb 7, 2017 -> 10:14 AM) For a team with world series aspirations the next two seasons, not having a proven backend of the bullpen can be a major issue. Say they roll with Treinen and Kelley as 8th and 9th inning options. That leaves them concerningly thin in the event one of them goes down with an injury. Bullpen issues could derail what is otherwise a championship caliber roster for the Nationals. I think they tried to get cute and have been burned by the market, now they might be forced into overpaying Robertson fits into their window perfectly.

QUOTE (Y2JImmy0 @ Feb 7, 2017 -> 10:01 AM) No. I think he hits 9th probably. Tim Anderson should leadoff so he gets the most at-bats. 1. T. Anderson SS 2. J. Abreu 1B 3. M.Cabrera LF 4. T. Frazier 3B 5. M. Davidson DH 6. B. Lawrie 2B 7. A. Garcia RF 8. G. Soto C 9. C. Tilson CF That's a bad lineup and way RH. How can people think we are going to be better than next year lol

You guys think he will lead off next year?

QUOTE (Y2JImmy0 @ Feb 7, 2017 -> 08:28 AM) Sean Sears makes up stories. Nothing to see here. When I saw the name I knew it looked familiar. When I went to his twitter account and saw "Sports Mockery" I remembered why I knew him lol

QUOTE (beautox @ Feb 6, 2017 -> 03:09 PM) I feel the same, Severino is fine but if everything breaks right hes a back up on this team with Collins. I would prefer the sox eat as much of the contract to get the best package. If the nats have such a weak bench as well I would include Lawrie as it opens up spots for some final looks at Sanchez and Davidson once Frazier is moved. if the sox eat no money I would expect Erick Fedde + Tyler Watson if the sox include a healthy amount of money I don't see why Robles couldn't be on the table. Hm maybe. Zimmerman is very injury prone and another injury to him would let Murphy slide over to first.

QUOTE (NCsoxfan @ Feb 6, 2017 -> 02:41 PM) That's fair, but it's the first paragraph of this article saying it's going to happen before spring training. We have 8 days until camps open? He really seems set on believing something will happen over the next 7 days lol

QUOTE (Jose Paniagua @ Feb 6, 2017 -> 02:16 PM) who's kickin' around? Some posters have posted the idea here at least a handful of times over the past month + but no real legs.

QUOTE (steveno89 @ Feb 6, 2017 -> 01:04 PM) The fans would riot if the Sox took a lesser package to salary dump Shields Shields will be here for the next two years, which is fine since we are rebuilding. Best case scenario is the Shields miraculously redeems himself enough this season to become a viable deadline trade chip (very wishful thinking) That's what I was getting at if it wasn't clear.

QUOTE (Dick Allen @ Feb 6, 2017 -> 12:45 PM) The White Sox aren't going to trade anyone with Q that would or at least could lessen his return. Hahn said as much at Soxfest when some shmuck thought adding Shields to a Q trade would be a good idea. Lol yeah I'd rather just eat the 2 years of Shields. And hope he can pass by as a back-end starter for a team.

QUOTE (ChiSoxFanMike @ Feb 6, 2017 -> 12:23 PM) True. Either way, there is no way I would settle on Q if I was Hahn. Beer looks good now but he is far from a sure thing and there's no guarantee the Sox would get to take him anyway. Making him an integral part of the deal is not wise. Agreed.

QUOTE (Al Lopez's Ghost @ Feb 6, 2017 -> 12:19 PM) @Inside Baseball tweets that after missing out on Romeo, the Nats have "intensified" Robertson talks. Is that just based on the stuff this morning or is it like fresh within the past hour or two.

QUOTE (ChiSoxFanMike @ Feb 6, 2017 -> 12:15 PM) There's no way I take a lesser return for Q right now just to bank on getting Beer later. Sorry. Those 2 scenarios are also independent. Regardless of the return Q brings back, it's likely not helping us win any more or any less games this upcoming season.

QUOTE (Soha @ Feb 6, 2017 -> 11:57 AM) You know, that would be fine with me. Robles is > Meadows, Tucker, Glasnow or whoever else you can come up with as a headliner for Q. But reports back in December were the Nats didn't want Quintana. Yeah and that was even before they traded for Eaton. They don't have quite as many bullets now.

An update on MLBtr. Assuming the other team was the Nats, that stings for them haha

QUOTE (steveno89 @ Feb 6, 2017 -> 11:18 AM) Can you imagine if we can somehow land Robles? SoxTalk would have a field day Would be awesome but I doubt it. Maybe a desperation move at the deadline but probably not now.

QUOTE (WhiteSoxLifer @ Feb 6, 2017 -> 10:24 AM) Rosenthal is now saying romo to dodgers pending physical. Hope that puts pressure in nationals now Nice. I hope so too.

QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Feb 6, 2017 -> 10:10 AM) I don't really think the Sox care about a replacement. No matter who it is, I think the goal is to have a couple of these starters up here for the 2nd half of the season, which means if someone sucks and gets dumped, no big deal. Exactly. They just need a warm body to eat MLB innings.