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S2K said: "This is property law as it applies to railroads, who have been granted near absolute power in this country by virtue of rewriting property law in the late 19th century to seize land to go cross continent and create company towns. You can turn it into a values judgment if you like, but I am stating facts and history here, from first hand experience. Yea there could be some legal (and factual) arguments that can be made, i.e., whether or not the land to be acquired next to the Armor Field house is really for a railroad purpose or primarily for a private purpose. LOL. The motive behind this as clear as light...but who wants to pay attorneys to go up against silk stocking attorneys from Amtrak and Ishbia in Federal Court? Concerned Sox fans? Cork and Kerry? ISFA? The Chicago Park District? As I alluded to earlier, this guy is just another billionaire bully that will pay-off anything or anybody in his way. No reason for that meeting in Bridgeport. This thing is a done deal. So Ishbia sh1tcans Bridgeport, Armor Park and Rate Field easily with almost no opposition and apparently, no consideration of alternatives.

Tough to leave men on base down by 3. Then there is giving up 7 runs so far. Does not look like something that is sustainable. But nothing that we did not know already.

What a lost opportunity. No financial backing to trade for or acquire pitchers, or just plain foolishness.

What a joke.

Sox needed to sign some decent starters and some help covering new debt at the trade deadline. Oh well.

Castillo doesn't have a good put away pitch so he is throwing a lot of pitches and getting in trouble.

It's telling that Ishbia did not seek community or fan input until long after Ishbia made the decisions and gone far down the road with his plan. So now what is the community meeting about? A taller fence between the Armor Park building and the rail yard ? Well OK, I noticed 87 million of the RR loan supposedly dedicated to "viaducts" in Bridgeport/Armor Park. That seems pretty light considering the poor condition of railroad bridges across the streets leading from the North to 35th street and beyond, and the storm sewers and streets in the viaducts. Moving forward, what is Ishbia's plan, if any, to deal with Rate Field and to compensate the ISFA for demolishing it ? At the end of the day, this is a move to convert public assets into private ones. The fans will pay the price for years to come.

You don't know anything about the issues. Pure vengeance.

What did this billionaire do at the trade deadline to fund (in his way to borrow/finance) acquisition of two pitchers at the trade deadline to help this team? This is ALL about the billionaire. Watch how much it costs to get to the train yard, buy tickets and concessions.

Hopefully there will be an attorney or two representing fans and residents opposed to this. Right now this looks like a one sided ass-kicking. Lay down and take it from this guy, right?

Look at the CN rail yard in Harvey. Put that right next to Armor Park and the neighborhood there? A 4 story train warehouse right on 35th street? As Hawk might say, you have got to be bleepin' me Consider the 120 year history of the Daniel Burnham designed Armor Park (put a train yard right next to that) and the historical home of the White Sox home of their defeat of the Chicago Cubs at South Side park in 1906. Baseball is largely tied to tradition. There is no tradition at the train yard. The Petco Park analogy is absurd. The views from the park are largely unimportant, as they are at Wrigley. An open air stadium no longer makes sense in Chicago. The canal is a joke and the condition may get worse over time. (see the ongoing Brandon lock project which hopefully will prevent flying Asian carp and other invasive species from getting into the Great Lakes). This isn't the Three rivers. It's a gross, mucky, shallow canal that still gets sewage overflow. What does Ishbia, a Detroit native and Winnetka resident, know (or care) about the South side? Nothing. Why did/would the ISFA sell anything to Ishbia? It is clearly against their interests. Oh, also bought and paid for. Why are majority stock owners including Mellody Hobson Lucas and the Reinsdorfs allowing this guy to do whatever he wants? I guess they are bought and paid for like the Mayor and Alderman. Look, this entire thing is driven by an entitled billionaire that is propelling his boyhood dream to own a baseball franchise and a new stadium and now he is proceeding like a runaway freight train. I suspect that with all the money Ishbia has, he has hired a few shills to promote this. Nice try with the sale job, but I'm not buying it. It does appear that no one can stop this guy and I am aware of that. But it doesn't mean I am going to hold back my feelings about this as someone who has been a White Sox fan all my life and knows Chicago.

There is a history of the White Sox on the Southside that dates back over 120 years. Back in 1906 (a year after Armor Park was built at 33rd and Shields ....(you know, where Ishbia wants to move a railyard)) the White Sox defeated the Cubs in game six of the World Series at Southside Park. Schriffen appreciates that history and the tradition that the White Sox have on the Southside, and, to his credit, he has played into it. He also challenged Plesac about his favorite ballparks noting that Wrigley does not even rate with the better ballparks, and it doesn't. Place is a joke.

Both in the line-up would be preferable.

Oh yea, Armor Park. The South Park Commissioners acquired the land for this park in 1904. Development of the park included a fieldhouse, with four clubrooms, two gymnasiums, an assembly hall, and large lobby. Outdoor amenities such as lawns, walks, and plantings were installed and recreational facilities included an outdoor swimming pool, baseball and football fields, handball and tennis courts, and a children’s playground. The development was completed in 1905 and there was a dedication of the park that same year. In 1906, the year after Armour Square opened to the public, President Theodore Roosevelt described the square and nine other related properties as "the most notable civic achievement in any American city." Nationally renowned landscape architects the Olmsted Brothers and architects Daniel H. Burnham and Co. designed the entire system. ___________ The man from Winnetka has run roughshod with that town to get his Northshore Mar-a-lago . Hate that he is doing whatever he wants now in Chicago.

Drive around the neighborhood East of the stadium.

Attempting to make this personal is lame. Regarding Ingress and egress at the 78, Mansueto started building a soccer stadium knowing that ingress and egress would be an issue. Only after construction did Related and Mansueto pressure the City for 440 million in TIF, mainly to to build a parking lot that finally made it possible to gain access off Roosevelt Road. But no, I made that up mother f.

Neighborhood residents should do everything they can to stop Ishbia from destroying their neighborhood, like local residents have done to stop the building of AI power centers and ICE detention centers. The appearance of a 4 story train warehouse right on 35th street? You git to be kidding me. Noise , rumbling and pollution from diesel engines? Vermin from stagnant rail cars? The destruction of the Armor Fieldhouse and Rate Field with nothing even proposed to replace them? Fine urban planning from the man from Detroit who was born with a silver spoon in his mouth. I mean, fvk him. But Ishbia is Chicago's Trump, a guy who seeks to do whatever he, in his sole discretion wants to do. You want ballroom and big Arch? You get ballroom and big Arch. From his overblown mansion in Winnetka, Ishbia has nothing in common with the White Sox fan base or middle class people from the South side of Chicago or Southwest suburbs. He is more powerful than a speeding locomotive, faster than a speeding bullet. Need Kryptonite to stop this greedy billionaire from taking the South side permanently out of the White Sox.

If I was Schriffen I would aggressively explore other options. This fan base, as it is, has not been kind to him let alone supportive. John has worked for CBS, ESPN, NFL Network, so I am sure he will land somewhere.

Absurd unwarranted criticism. I could point out numerous arcane expressions used by sports announcers including Hawk and Harry. The thing that is different is that some fans just don't like Schriffen. Just admit that and stop nit picking everything he says or does, or better yet, just focus on enjoying the games.

Dude, it was a good throw.

Oh sure, adding Thome to the White Sox in 2006 or Cease to the BJays this year finished the equation. Look, this is the team that should have been bolstered at the deadline. We may not see a young group of players gel like this again. This is the team.

If the Sox had the likes of some of the old-school Managers like Billy Martin, Pete Crow would not see a strike and would be in a defensive posture at the plate. He' going to get on base anyway, so at least make it interesting. At least one brush-back pitch in every at-bat.

Getz stated before the trade deadline that the Sox would not be trading prospect capital but would be willing to take on player contracts. Really foolish. If you have a team in first place in August, you go for it, balls to the wall, no holds barred. We may not see another year like the White Sox have had in 2026 for many more years. It has been fun to watch, until the series in Wrigley.

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Getz should have traded Bonemer. He probably has no place on the roster next year, especially if Roch comes up.