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Is “The 78” Dead? Or even more alive? Fire announce plans for SSS
tray replied to soxfan18's topic in Pale Hose Talk
S2K : JR's last decision , to sell to a billionaire private equity investor who is holding his cards close to his vest, might be his last laugh at sports fans. -
Is “The 78” Dead? Or even more alive? Fire announce plans for SSS
tray replied to soxfan18's topic in Pale Hose Talk
Go to the 78 on foot and tell me what attractions there are around there that would justify the investment of Billions of dollars there. This tract has been a dead zone for over 100 years for good reason. There is nothing there there. Have you looked at the Fire plan that they claim will be started next year? The 3 Metra tracks, The Clark st. N and S ramps, and Roosevelt are not altered, but for a possible turn off from Roosevelt into a parking garage. They will need a wall built all along the Metra tracks for pedestrian safety. If the Fire proceed with their current plan forget about your dream to move the Sox from their historic home on 35th street to that sh1thole. Auchi and his Related companies have been pushing hard to get money to build (from Amazon, from U of I, TIF from the City) on this extremely compromised tract for over a decade. They don't care about our sports fans or the City of Chicago, they are in it for the money and they are pushing harder and harder as time goes by. -
Great 9/11 personal remembrance and tribute by Schriff.
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Sox should have got the Rays CFer instead of Mead.
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Is “The 78” Dead? Or even more alive? Fire announce plans for SSS
tray replied to soxfan18's topic in Pale Hose Talk
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Walks the lead-off man in the 9th in a one run game.
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The HRs were hit off junk. Can't throw off-speed pitches in the zone against power hitters.
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Sean leaves with the lead, but on balance, a mostly unimpressive start by Burke.
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Why was Venable playing Vargas at 1st ? He is our gaddamn 3rd basemen.
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Vargas 3B, Montgomery SS, Meidroth 2B , Sosa at 1B should be the starting infield for most games, IMO... No Mead.
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Is “The 78” Dead? Or even more alive? Fire announce plans for SSS
tray replied to soxfan18's topic in Pale Hose Talk
I'm not suggesting that WSox could have packed the stadium but for the weather, but there were several games that I planned on attending that I cancelled because of cold and/or rainy weather this year. Roger Bossard said that this was the worst weather for games that he could recall in 40 years. He cited the record amount of times he had to deploy the tarp. A few more terrible weather seasons and a retractable roof stadium might be considered. You really have to bundle up for early season night games and at some point, cold / wet Spring weather deters attendance. -
Is “The 78” Dead? Or even more alive? Fire announce plans for SSS
tray replied to soxfan18's topic in Pale Hose Talk
I am not sure if you had a chance to study the plan for the Fire stadium but it all but eliminates the possibility to build another stadium at the 78 that provides reasonable vehicular and pedestrian access. Most of the parking is on a lot going into the Fire's stadium. No east / West streets cross the 3 Metra tracks. I used Google maps to check your claim about the under 20 minute walking time, even starting out outside the 78 at Roosevelt and Clark and walking down Clark or down the river somehow.. Google maps comes up with 26-27 minutes, plus the time to get out of the park and out to that intersection. So figure more like a half hour. -
Is “The 78” Dead? Or even more alive? Fire announce plans for SSS
tray replied to soxfan18's topic in Pale Hose Talk
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If a team has an ace like the Tigers' Skubal, the Pirates Skenes, Red Sox Crochet and obviously the Dodgers Ohtani, one win in every pitching rotation is almost a lock. To your point, the Sox may not have anyone in sight that can become anything like those true ace pitchers, especially if Noah Schultz, Hagen Smith, etc. do not pan out. And then there is the need for LH and RH set-up pitchers and a Closer. Now, the Sox starters struggle to stay in games until the middle innings and then it gets wayyy too stressful as Venable plugs in pitchers to try to close out games.
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Is “The 78” Dead? Or even more alive? Fire announce plans for SSS
tray replied to soxfan18's topic in Pale Hose Talk
And then there is that. -
9/7/2025 - Sox @ Tigers - 12:40 - Martin v. Morton
tray replied to WestEddy's topic in 2025 Season in Review
Getz and Venable have improved the Sox and at least arguably, have made it enjoyable to watch them. I have loved the offense since the Allstar break. Replacing Mead with Vargas, Baldwin with almost anyone, and Tauchman with Braden and the line-up could look even better. Keep hitting bombs ! -
Is “The 78” Dead? Or even more alive? Fire announce plans for SSS
tray replied to soxfan18's topic in Pale Hose Talk
"I know public transportation and trains apparently frighten you, but for probably the 100th time in this thread, plenty of people (myself included) have 0 issue utilizing them back to the burbs after games. Like most humans, Sox fans will adapt to less available parking in the future if a stadium at the 78 does eventually come to fruition. " Good to know. -
Is “The 78” Dead? Or even more alive? Fire announce plans for SSS
tray replied to soxfan18's topic in Pale Hose Talk
I'm laughing about Trump bringing troops into Chicago but no politics here so there is that. Beyond the security issue, which is substantial, a lot of fans are not going to want to park at a train stop, take a train, and return to that lot around midnight. Some will, but a lot won't. And a lot of fans have made tailgating a lifestyle. Trust me, you will see guys with all kinds of grills, coolers, and impressive spreads they lay out. It's a huge old fashioned Chicago block party if you were ever at one back in the day. We lived in St. Denis/ Ashburn and we kids loved them. So that tailgating thing has roots. Re the 78 ...NO WAY Ishbia, a billionaire private equity investor, is ever going to sign a long term lease with the Iranian born convicted felon who owns the 78 lot, and at the same time, lose parking lot revenue and bank on suburban Sox fans to change their long standing habits, expose their families to security risks, and deal with untold inconveniences. But the Sox relocating to the 78 is a moot point now and certainly will be in 5 years, especially after the Fire relocate there. Look at the site plan with the Fire stadium there. Even without that stadium it becomes clear after studying that plan that there is no access on Roosevelt (outside the ramp they propose going into a parking garage), none on Clark, and limited access otherwise, such as the one lane road through Ping Tom park. Related Dev. is trying to scam the City of Chicago and Illinois taxpayers with TIF funding that only diverts tax revenue. Hey give Auchi taxpayer money so he can develop his property. LMFAO. -
Is “The 78” Dead? Or even more alive? Fire announce plans for SSS
tray replied to soxfan18's topic in Pale Hose Talk
Weekday games on the Southside are mainly night games. Most WSox fans who attend games regularly are largely located in the suburbs. The prospect of putting their families on trains going through Chicago and returning late at night will be unacceptable to most of them for security and practical reasons. Some fans who don't attend games, may not understand that Sox fans, like Bears fans, enjoy tailgating prior to games and then feel safe returning to their cars in a secure parking lot next to the park. Knowing anything about the culture of South side Sox fans is prerequisite to gaining an understanding of why access to the expressway and ample parking is an important part of what makes attending Sox games enjoyable for many of our fans. And no, most fans don't need to drink any more post 11 p.m. after night games so no need for more bars then there already is around the neighborhood. -
Not threatening you but you are a real jag.
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Please stop. Go make hotdogs for Sunday brunch.
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Words that would start a bar fight in another setting. That's what you do. See how far you can go before someone grounds and pounds you.
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7/25/2025 - Cubs @ Sox 6:40 pm CDT - Imanaga v. Houser
tray replied to WestEddy's topic in 2025 Season in Review
I am not going to even watch one game or one inning of this series. Way too much unnecessary stress for me. Good luck and see you next week after this thing is over. -
Read the press release over and again, and then scratch your head. The Ishbia option makes little sense for Sox fans, investors, the ISFA, and the media....way too much uncertainty (see link below) Ishbia/Reinsdorf can take that uncertainty out with a sale this year. One idea might be for Ishbia to outright purchase the franchise for a few Billion and give Reinsdorf what he stated he wants - the right to remain as Chairman of the Board ... for perhaps 3 years , NOT for as long as he is alive. That's bulshit. https://www.forbes.com/sites/jessesilvertown/2025/06/09/chicago-white-sox-transaction-is-a-dispute-in-waiting/
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Strange? That's some real bulshit. My ONLY concern about overblown allegations of Reinsdorf being "cheap" has been because the continued use of that specific term implies something quite ugly to certain people. The fact is that JR, like any Owner, relies on many people in order to make decisions on acquiring expensive players. He has learned, as have other owners, that spending on player contracts does not always guarantee a championship. Maybe stick to cooking hotdogs for the family. That you are good at my friend.
