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President-Elect Donald Trump: The Thread

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QUOTE (Chicago White Sox @ Dec 23, 2016 -> 09:43 AM)
While I don't think you can allow Russia to have superior nuclear technology, this highlights probably my greatest fear with Trump as president, the fact he may do something stupid or drive other countries to do something stupid.

Reading some people pointing out that a big driver in the US and Russia pulling back from an "arms race" is that an arms race pushes the probability of accidents higher - there's a legendary 20 minute stretch in 1983 when a Soviet computer sent out a false alarm saying the U.S. had launched missiles at the Soviets and it came down to basically one guy saying his gut said it was a false alarm and waiting 20 minutes to see if he was vaporized to avoid a retaliatory strike.

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QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Dec 23, 2016 -> 10:26 AM)
Reading some people pointing out that a big driver in the US and Russia pulling back from an "arms race" is that an arms race pushes the probability of accidents higher - there's a legendary 20 minute stretch in 1983 when a Soviet computer sent out a false alarm saying the U.S. had launched missiles at the Soviets and it came down to basically one guy saying his gut said it was a false alarm and waiting 20 minutes to see if he was vaporized to avoid a retaliatory strike.

 

Sounds like the ending of War Games.

QUOTE (Iwritecode @ Dec 23, 2016 -> 11:20 AM)
Sounds like the ending of War Games.

 

"This is Crystal Palace. Are you still on?"

QUOTE (Iwritecode @ Dec 23, 2016 -> 12:20 PM)
Sounds like the ending of War Games.

Yup. Basically that really happened. So yeah, probably good reason not to push these things.

Plus, in a nuclear arms race, there's a point where it simply doesn't make sense. With 7000 nukes (or whatever we have right now), we can blow up the world 10 times over. What's the point in adding more?

QUOTE (farmteam @ Dec 23, 2016 -> 02:11 PM)
Plus, in a nuclear arms race, there's a point where it simply doesn't make sense. With 7000 nukes (or whatever we have right now), we can blow up the world 10 times over. What's the point in adding more?

To prove we have bigger d***s.

Trump Aide Partnered With Firm Run by Man With Alleged KGB Ties

 

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/201...lleged-kgb-ties

 

This is the same aide who traffics in crazy conspiracy theories just like trump, violated the rules for handling classified materials, was working for Turkey while sitting in on Trump's security breifings, and is his national security advisor.

 

 

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QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Dec 23, 2016 -> 12:52 PM)
Yup. Basically that really happened. So yeah, probably good reason not to push these things.

Yup. And then there was Able Archer (also in 1983), where a NATO exercise caused the Soviets to go on highest alert level with the finger on the button because they thought a first strike might be coming. And a few whoops-we-crashed-a-plane-with-a-nuke-on-it moments.

 

http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/trump-blast...ory?id=44431926

 

Trump sniping at Obama now...that peaceful transition lasted almost two months, longer than most would have predicted.

 

It's now coming into full conflict with the Obama administration's rearguard actions to protect his legacy. Hopefully the foreign policy issues don't blow up into a war while we're waiting for actual Trump directives to be put in place after the 20th.

QUOTE (StrangeSox @ Dec 23, 2016 -> 08:37 PM)
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Yes, refuse to not do YOUR JOB and expect to be PAID as if you DID. Makes sense.

Guess you hate all unions then.

QUOTE (brett05 @ Dec 29, 2016 -> 08:42 AM)
Yes, refuse to not do YOUR JOB and expect to be PAID as if you DID. Makes sense.

I'm sure you said the same thing about pharmacists who refused to sell birth control.

QUOTE (brett05 @ Dec 29, 2016 -> 10:42 AM)
Yes, refuse to not do YOUR JOB and expect to be PAID as if you DID. Makes sense.

 

I'd guess that they're paid hourly or by performance rather than salaried, so that wouldn't be asking for compensation for work not performed. They just don't want to perform for Cheeto Benito.

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QUOTE (brett05 @ Dec 29, 2016 -> 10:42 AM)
Yes, refuse to not do YOUR JOB and expect to be PAID as if you DID. Makes sense.

 

Comparing a job requirement to rape is pretty impressive there.

QUOTE (LittleHurt05 @ Dec 29, 2016 -> 12:04 PM)
Comparing a job requirement to rape is pretty impressive there.

 

President-Elect "Grab 'em by the p****" Trump would be proud.

QUOTE (BigSqwert @ Dec 29, 2016 -> 12:36 PM)
I'm sure you said the same thing about pharmacists who refused to sell birth control.

Or bakeries that refused to make cakes for gay people.

QUOTE (knightni @ Dec 29, 2016 -> 03:41 PM)
Or bakeries that refused to make cakes for gay people.

 

Or Republicans in Congress not holding a hearing for Garland.

Or Donald Trump not going to intelligence briefings.

QUOTE (RockRaines @ Dec 29, 2016 -> 11:32 AM)
Guess you hate all unions then.

Yes, I am against many of the unions as it stands today.

QUOTE (BigSqwert @ Dec 29, 2016 -> 11:36 AM)
I'm sure you said the same thing about pharmacists who refused to sell birth control.

It's their job...they are not owners, they are workers.

QUOTE (knightni @ Dec 29, 2016 -> 03:41 PM)
Or bakeries that refused to make cakes for gay people.

Bakers, nope, owners, yes.

QUOTE (LittleHurt05 @ Dec 29, 2016 -> 12:04 PM)
Comparing a job requirement to rape is pretty impressive there.

except that wasn't done so...

QUOTE (StrangeSox @ Dec 29, 2016 -> 11:38 AM)
I'd guess that they're paid hourly or by performance rather than salaried, so that wouldn't be asking for compensation for work not performed. They just don't want to perform for Cheeto Benito.

and by refusing work, they might not get offered future work

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