1 minute ago, SCCWS said:

FWIW--Dennis Eckersley is doing the color for the game in Boston. He said Gio has an outstanding change-up and an awful curveball. 

It's true....according to fangraphs pitch value, his slider and changeup are his best pitches.  Giolito's curveball is either a hanger over the plate or a 58 footer that doesn't even tempt the hitter to swing at.

Nice inning . Wonder if he's done?

Really nice outing overall.

Against Boston and not pitching for 10 days, Giolito was very good tonight. I don't think Ricky is THAT stupid to trot him back out there for the 6th, so nice outing.

Although alot of pitches, I'll take this performance from Gios first game back.

Just now, CaliSoxFanViaSWside said:

Nice inning . Wonder if he's done?

He better be. 98 pitches and missed time. Would be monumentally stupid. 

1 minute ago, fathom said:

It's true....according to fangraphs pitch value, his slider and changeup are his best pitches.  Giolito's curveball is either a hanger over the plate or a 58 footer that doesn't even tempt the hitter to swing at.

Occasionally he'll throw a good one but he should save it for a show me pitch and it should be the wipeout version. 

Just now, SoxAce said:

He better be. 98 pitches and missed time. Would be monumentally stupid. 

A lefty is up to start the 6th...for sure Ricky will play those percentages

Wow... Cordell pulled an Engel. 

Just now, SoxAce said:

He better be. 98 pitches and missed time. Would be monumentally stupid. 

Idk, the bullpen is pretty taxed. He might get sent back out there. 

Gio had nice velocity tonight as well.  

Just now, Jack Parkman said:

Occasionally he'll throw a good one but he should save it for a show me pitch and it should be the wipeout version. 

yeah use it as a waste pitch makes all the sense in the world.  It's funny to think about how great Giolito must have looked throwing bullpens when scouts were watching him in high school.  The curve looks sexy until you see how hitters react to it.

Just now, Sox80 said:

Gio had nice velocity tonight as well.  

I like more that even when he misses with the fastball, it's not by much.  I think some forget how much he was missing the plate by last year.

1 minute ago, SoxAce said:

He better be. 98 pitches and missed time. Would be monumentally stupid. 

I wouldn't put it past Renteria to see what happens next inning. He's been Ok the last 2 innings/ ANy indicarion from the dugout he was done ?

2 minutes ago, fathom said:

yeah use it as a waste pitch makes all the sense in the world.  It's funny to think about how great Giolito must have looked throwing bullpens when scouts were watching him in high school.  The curve looks sexy until you see how hitters react to it.

The weird thing is that he never threw a slider until 2018. His curve was great in 2017, but as soon as he started throwing the slider he lost the curve 

Edited May 3, 20196 yr by Jack Parkman

That technology Benetti was discussing sounds awesome

3 minutes ago, fathom said:

I like more that even when he misses with the fastball, it's not by much.  I think some forget how much he was missing the plate by last year.

He gets a metric shit ton of mileage out of the high fastball. He reminds me of Chris Young the pitcher before he got hurt. 

Edited May 3, 20196 yr by Jack Parkman

Ugly freaking 3-1 swing on fastball down the plate.  Like seriously, how is a major leaguer swinging like that?

5 minutes ago, fathom said:

yeah use it as a waste pitch makes all the sense in the world.  It's funny to think about how great Giolito must have looked throwing bullpens when scouts were watching him in high school.  The curve looks sexy until you see how hitters react to it.

No it was legit good at one point. I saw him pitch in the sally as a 19 year old a couple of times. That thing was Floyd-esc. He was also throwing 98-100 too so...

Edited May 3, 20196 yr by SoxAce

Just now, SoxAce said:

No it was legit good at one point. I saw him pitch in the sally as a 19 year old a couple of times. That thing was Floyd-esc. 

^^^

Just now, SoxAce said:

No it was legit good at one point. I saw him pitch in the sally as a 19 year old a couple of times. That thing was Floyd-esc. 

Spin rate on it since they started measuring has never been good. Big bender but not sharp.

3 minutes ago, Look at Ray Ray Run said:

Spin rate on it since they started measuring has never been good. Big bender but not sharp.

It was a hook. Froze a couple of guys down there. Back in those days, I'll admit spin rate wasn't a thing that I was looking at or was popular.

I use to miss 98-100 mph Gio too until I realized it isn't about velocity if the spin rate isn't there.

Edited May 3, 20196 yr by SoxAce

9 minutes ago, fathom said:

yeah use it as a waste pitch makes all the sense in the world.  It's funny to think about how great Giolito must have looked throwing bullpens when scouts were watching him in high school.  The curve looks sexy until you see how hitters react to it.

He should save it for guys he's been attacking with high fastballs when he has 2 strikes on the hitter and is ahead 

Just now, Jack Parkman said:

He should save it for guys he's been attacking with high fastballs when he has 2 strikes on the hitter and is ahead 

That is what Floyd use to do. But Floyd would also bury it in the dirt if need be too. He had complete control of his curve most of the time. Gio is lucky if he even has half the control most nights. Thats the difference. 

Wtf happened to Jackie Bradley man