3 hours ago, poppysox said:

He might keep a job but not the job.

LOL! You must be thinking of another team.

4 hours ago, chitownsportsfan said:

He's put up almost 9 bWAR in 4 seasons and is still young enough to where a breakout is possible.  He's lefty and can play RF a position of obvious need.  The comparison would be Adam Eaton if you want to somehow link it to previous Hahn moves.  

 Obviously he's an upgrade.  It's like the Frazier move.  Premature and for a not great player (1 4.2 WR and the rest 2.5 or less).  The Sox were fortunate the prospects didn't do much (not so fortunate in the Shields and Samardzija trades).
The problem is that it's unlikely the Sox win during his 3 years on the contract.  Look at the holes on this team:  RF, 2B, Catcher, CF, DH, maybe 1B.
Pitching, they have 1 for sure starter; Cease is a likely, Lopez is a maybe, Kopech a maybe.  So they need 2 at least  starters plus an extra  which leaves them with no depth (3 starters minimum).  And the pen...they don't have a single "ace" in the pen and they are way short on numbers.  And then there's the bench.

Those holes aren't getting filled in a season and probably not 2.  And the very players that could perhaps fill those holes in a year or 2 are the ones that Hahn would have to trade away for him. (And I know, he won't trade Vaughn, Madrigal, Kopech or Robert....but he'd trade a few of anyone else).
 

Edited September 13, 20196 yr by GreenSox

2 hours ago, NWINFan said:

To tell you the truth, I don't know if being 83 means anything to Jerry Reinsdorf when it comes to the White Sox. I guess we will see in the offseason.

Agreed. It could mean he needs another world series now, it could mean he wants to maximize the valuation of the franchise, it could mean literally nothing. 

2 hours ago, GreenSox said:

 Obviously he's an upgrade.  It's like the Frazier move.  Premature and for a not great player (1 4.2 WR and the rest 2.5 or less).  The Sox were fortunate the prospects didn't do much (not so fortunate in the Shields and Samardzija trades).
The problem is that it's unlikely the Sox win during his 3 years on the contract.  Look at the holes on this team:  RF, 2B, Catcher, CF, DH, maybe 1B.
Pitching, they have 1 for sure starter; Cease is a likely, Lopez is a maybe, Kopech a maybe.  So they need 2 at least  starters plus an extra  which leaves them with no depth (3 starters minimum).  And the pen...they don't have a single "ace" in the pen and they are way short on numbers.  And then there's the bench.

Those holes aren't getting filled in a season and probably not 2.  And the very players that could perhaps fill those holes in a year or 2 are the ones that Hahn would have to trade away for him. (And I know, he won't trade Vaughn, Madrigal, Kopech or Robert....but he'd trade a few of anyone else).
 

Madrigal, McCann, and Luis Robert are in those positions next year, how are those holes?  They need a DH or 1B if they are hanging onto Abreu (1 position), a RF (2 positions), a SP (3 positions), and a couple pen arms (5 positions).  That is easily attainable in one off season when your payroll is 26 million dollars coming into 2020.  

2 hours ago, GreenSox said:

And the pen...they don't have a single "ace" in the pen and they are way short on numbers. 

What more does Bummer need to do to be considered an "ace" in the pen?

14 minutes ago, SoxAce said:

What more does Bummer need to do to be considered an "ace" in the pen?

Strikeout more than 8.1/9; WHIP under 1 or preferably under .9

8 hours ago, poppysox said:

We are about to embark on probably the best decade in Sox history.  ?

Man, you are optimistic. Our inconsistent starters simply must become consistent. We need some free agent mound signings especially for the bullpen. We could use a starter who 80 percent of the time is amazing. GO SOX!

4 hours ago, greg775 said:

Man, you are optimistic. Our inconsistent starters simply must become consistent. We need some free agent mound signings especially for the bullpen. We could use a starter who 80 percent of the time is amazing. GO SOX!

No reason not to be optimistic.  We have a great nucleus and the team needs are gettable over the offseason.