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The Bullpen Problem

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1. Hendricks: still a decent arm but sometimes a one pitch pitcher - so I'll go with average for him so far this year.

2. Bummer - hasn't been too great this year.. but been pretty good the past few - ill say he is a plus guy.

3. Foster = young guy who has a good year last yeah but no track record - ill go with ???

4.  Crotchett - had a cannon.. had surgery.. has looked good at times this year so far but still unproven ill go with ???

5.  Ruis - good fast ball but been a gas can most of his career - ill go with negative on him.

6.  Marshall - up and down career has been a gas can more than he has been good - ill go with negative on him.

7.  Kopech - been good this year.. but another unproven guy - ill say positive since he has been dominant most of the year.

8. Cody H -  good arm- was good last year... but 6.50 era so far this year - another unproven guy.. ill go ??? with him

 

We do have some talent.. but its mostly unproven and most teams have lots of guys that can throw hard..

I think we really overated our bullpen coming into the year - it was built upon a lot of young guys that have no track record really.

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  • Bob Sacamano
    Bob Sacamano

    Any big trade they make is going to be for the pen, not the outfield.

  • HOFHurt35
    HOFHurt35

    As pointed out by the OP, Marshall was pretty damn good last season.  I don't blame LaRussa and Katz for his high usage so far (like last night when everyone was shitting on that decision).  Sadly, I

  • joejoesox
    joejoesox

    @Chicago White Sox that was an amazing post, thanks brother! 

4 minutes ago, harkness99 said:

1. Hendricks: still a decent arm but sometimes a one pitch pitcher - so I'll go with average for him so far this year.

2. Bummer - hasn't been too great this year.. but been pretty good the past few - ill say he is a plus guy.

3. Foster = young guy who has a good year last yeah but no track record - ill go with ???

4.  Crotchett - had a cannon.. had surgery.. has looked good at times this year so far but still unproven ill go with ???

5.  Ruis - good fast ball but been a gas can most of his career - ill go with negative on him.

6.  Marshall - up and down career has been a gas can more than he has been good - ill go with negative on him.

7.  Kopech - been good this year.. but another unproven guy - ill say positive since he has been dominant most of the year.

8. Cody H -  good arm- was good last year... but 6.50 era so far this year - another unproven guy.. ill go ??? with him

 

We do have some talent.. but its mostly unproven and most teams have lots of guys that can throw hard..

I think we really overated our bullpen coming into the year - it was built upon a lot of young guys that have no track record really.

It is crystal clear that the bullpen was overrated coming into the year. The Sox needed all the young guys to hit their ceiling and none of the veterans to regress. 

Guys like Foster, Marshall, and Ruiz are a dime a dozen. A well run organization should be able to fill these roles from their farm. 

Hendricks and Bummer have underperformed. These guys were supposed to be your elite lockdown options. They have not been that at all. 

Kopech has been the rock of the bullpen but we all know his future is in the starting rotation. 

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I will say I don’t think Tony is doing the back-end guys any favor.  Hendriks, Bummer, & Heuer shouldn’t go 4 to 7 days between outings or they will fall out of rhythm.  Can’t keep saving them for situations that may never happen.

8 minutes ago, Chicago White Sox said:

I will say I don’t think Tony is doing the back-end guys any favor.  Hendriks, Bummer, & Heuer shouldn’t go 4 to 7 days between outings or they will fall out of rhythm.  Can’t keep saving them for situations that may never happen.

And if Tony pitches them every other day and they continue to underperform then what is the excuse going to be? 

 

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1 minute ago, JoeyCoralFanClub said:

And if Tony pitches them every other day and they continue to underperform then what is the excuse going to be? 

Unfortunately Tony’s not going to do that unless the situation dictates it.

Going into the season before we knew how Rodon and Cease would do the sentiment was "if our starters can just keep is in the games until we get to our bullpen...". That implies priorities that are flat out 180 degrees out of phase.

We, like all teams, have had to live through our share of bad bullpens in the past.  The tough thing this year is all the talk preseason that this would be the best bullpen in the league.  Bullpens for the most part are a crapshoot.  Like it was said earlier, thank goodness our starting staff has been so good so far.  Probably will need to bolster the pen through trade.

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