5 hours ago, Tony said:

The White Sox organization is the equivalent of someone spending a bunch of money to fix up an apartment that is in a bad building, and bad neighborhood. The end product might look nice on the surface, but when you look a little deeper, you realize the improvements were made to a place that had a bad foundation, and there isn't a ton of upside to your investment. 

The point is, it's very clear this organization isn't built to succeed in the current baseball landscape. They are behind the times, like always. Day to day coaching, analytics, support staff & training, as well as the minor league system and coaching. It's rotten at the core. It's not just TLR, it's not just Hahn, it's not just Kenny, it's not even just JR. It's ALL of it. Nothing changes until it's all flushed out.  

The trouble is they also employed cowboy builders to do the work.

19 hours ago, caulfield12 said:

https://awaybackgone.com/2022/08/22/can-cleveland-guardians-win-al-central/

Will Brennan is now rookie #15.

Great point and I missed that. Even more reason Francona is a stud!

On 9/24/2022 at 5:20 PM, South Side Hit Men said:

Porque no los dos. While coaching would have improved certain areas, but no amount of coaching would make Sheets and Vaughn major league capable corner outfielders, and beyond Colas which they are slow rolling to the majors, there are no alternatives because Hahn has no capable "guys". Ditto all the old stale expensive relievers he accumulated.

This cant be emphasized enough on how poorly Hahn has put together this team. Trying to make two lifetime first basemen from little league thru college into first time corner outfielders is just insane.

As you said, the other disaster part of Hahn was his selection of older past 30 yr old "past their prime" pitchers like Diekman, Kelly, Graveman and Velasquez who would suck on Cleveland or any other team besides the Sox.

Edited September 26, 20223 yr by The Kids Can Play