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33 minutes ago, WestEddy said:

Wow, the Sox have outscored the Padres this pre-season.

If I was a Padres fan, I'd be very concerned. And depressed. 

Go bet your house they win the AL Central...and Getz is simultaneously named AL Executive of the Year.

Dodgers' fans are apparently melting down over this rs/ra stat.

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7 minutes ago, caulfield12 said:

Go bet your house they win the AL Central...and Getz is simultaneously named AL Executive of the Year.

Dodgers' fans are apparently melting down over this rs/ra stat.

But the Padres have a pathetic losing record in spring training. Why aren't they trading for better players?

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This Padres trolling is quite hilarious.  If the Sox were as good as the Padres right now, they wouldn’t be the “laughingstock” of the MLB.  Yes, “laughingstock” is a thing, even if some people want to try to deny it.

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23 minutes ago, WhiteSox2023 said:

This Padres trolling is quite hilarious.  If the Sox were as good as the Padres right now, they wouldn’t be the “laughingstock” of the MLB.  Yes, “laughingstock” is a thing, even if some people want to try to deny it.

If the White Sox are a laughingstock, then what is a team who has scored less runs than a "laughingstock", while playing more games during the critical first week of spring training? Your own trolling indicates you think these games are as important as in-season games, if not more so. 

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37 minutes ago, WhiteSox2023 said:

This Padres trolling is quite hilarious.  If the Sox were as good as the Padres right now, they wouldn’t be the “laughingstock” of the MLB.  Yes, “laughingstock” is a thing, even if some people want to try to deny it.

I'm taking the future of the White Sox over the future of Padres. 

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1 hour ago, WestEddy said:

If the White Sox are a laughingstock, then what is a team who has scored less runs than a "laughingstock", while playing more games during the critical first week of spring training? Your own trolling indicates you think these games are as important as in-season games, if not more so. 

In ST games or games that actually count?  The Sox lose either way.  I don’t need to troll sh1t.  It’s history, lest you forget…

41-121.

And to quote Hawk — This debate is OVAAAA!

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9 minutes ago, WhiteSox2023 said:

In games that actually count?  Or ST games?  I don’t need to justify anything.  41-121, unless you forgot…

If ST games don't count, then why are you posting this? Weird that you're making fun of the Sox for their spring record, but then you say it's meaningless when it's pointed out other teams are doing as bad, or worse. And it can be argued that for as great an organization you think the Padres are, anything short of an unbeaten spring record can be considered a complete failure. 

 

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9 minutes ago, WestEddy said:

If ST games don't count, then why are you posting this? Weird that you're making fun of the Sox for their spring record, but then you say it's meaningless when it's pointed out other teams are doing as bad, or worse. 

 

It’s a continuation of last year’s ST record as well as their regular season record.  What is your point?  Do you honestly think the Sox aren’t going to lose 100 games this year?  Will the Padres lose 100 games this year?  When what I said is proven right, will you still show up?

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12 minutes ago, WhiteSox2023 said:

It’s a continuation of last year’s ST record as well as their regular season record.  What is your point?  Do you honestly think the Sox aren’t going to lose 100 games this year?  Will the Padres lose 100 games this year?  When what I said is proven right, will you still show up?

But you just said that ST records don't count. I think it's sort of incumbent for you to come up with some sort of point that ties all the strange, contradictive things you're saying together. I've already stated multiple times I think the Sox will win 53-54 games this year. I bet you can do the math. There's no reason to make up things I didn't say to argue against. 

What that you said is going to be proven right? That spring training games count, or that spring training games don't count? You seem to be saying both of those things. The fact that they aren't included with regular season wins and losses is kind of a dead giveaway. 

But if they do count, and the Sox stats make them a "laughingstock", then teams who have worse stats than the Sox are probably a laughingstock too, right?

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6 minutes ago, WestEddy said:

But you just said that ST records don't count. I think it's sort of incumbent for you to come up with some sort of point that ties all the strange, contradictive things you're saying together. I've already stated multiple times I think the Sox will win 53-54 games this year. I bet you can do the math. There's no reason to make up things I didn't say to argue against. 

What that you said is going to be proven right? That spring training games count, or that spring training games don't count? You seem to be saying both of those things. The fact that they aren't included with regular season wins and losses is kind of a dead giveaway. 

But if they do count, and the Sox stats make them a "laughingstock", then teams who have worse stats than the Sox are probably a laughingstock too, right?

Ask any Dodgers' fans if they're concerned in the least.

Otoh the White Sox had the worst spring training record last year and now this year...pretty obvious there's at least SOME correlation there.

How high it is...you'd have to analyst Spring Training vs. regular season records.

There's also the same correlation with minor league winning percentages vs. actually producing legit Top 100 MiLB prospects.

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2 hours ago, Chicago White Sox said:

Seems like they should trade some of these guys for Robert.

Seattle seems like an obvious spot, but for Robert's Ks. Seattle has a serious K problem and Robert just adds to it.

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6 minutes ago, caulfield12 said:

Ask any Dodgers' fans if they're concerned in the least.

Otoh the White Sox had the worst spring training record last year and now this year...pretty obvious there's at least SOME correlation there.

How high it is...you'd have to analyst Spring Training vs. regular season records.

There's also the same correlation with minor league winning percentages vs. actually producing legit Top 100 MiLB prospects.

Technically don’t have the worst record. Same as Cleveland and Sox own the tiebreaker. 

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21 minutes ago, WhiteSox2023 said:

If the Sox were as good as the Padres, WestEddy would no doubt be screaming at everyone about how good the Sox are.

I don't believe Eddy thinks the Sox are better than the Padres. 

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19 minutes ago, caulfield12 said:

Ask any Dodgers' fans if they're concerned in the least.

Otoh the White Sox had the worst spring training record last year and now this year...pretty obvious there's at least SOME correlation there.

How high it is...you'd have to analyst Spring Training vs. regular season records.

There's also the same correlation with minor league winning percentages vs. actually producing legit Top 100 MiLB prospects.

Who's talking about the Dodgers? I'm not concerned about the Sox' record, either. It's spring training. But if you think the Sox record is meaningful, then it's meaningful that the Badres have scored less runs than the Sox in more games. Pick. 

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36 minutes ago, WestEddy said:

But you just said that ST records don't count. I think it's sort of incumbent for you to come up with some sort of point that ties all the strange, contradictive things you're saying together. I've already stated multiple times I think the Sox will win 53-54 games this year. I bet you can do the math. There's no reason to make up things I didn't say to argue against. 

What that you said is going to be proven right? That spring training games count, or that spring training games don't count? You seem to be saying both of those things. The fact that they aren't included with regular season wins and losses is kind of a dead giveaway. 

But if they do count, and the Sox stats make them a "laughingstock", then teams who have worse stats than the Sox are probably a laughingstock too, right?

I didn’t think ST records mattered but the Sox are trying to prove some correlation between sucking in ST and sucking in the regular season.  Read my recent posts on this.

So when the Sox 2025 regular season record looks as bad as their previous record, and the Padres do much better,  I guess we will know the answer.  But does it truly mean that ST records don’t matter or is it just that the Sox roster has been so historically bad the past two seasons that they are equally bad in both ST and the regular season?

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7 minutes ago, WhiteSox2023 said:

I didn’t think ST records mattered but the Sox are trying to prove some correlation between sucking in ST and sucking in the regular season.  Read my recent posts on this. 
 

The Sox aren't trying to prove anything, you are. And you're not doing very good at it. The Sox aren't going to be a good team this year. It stands to reason that a rebuilding team won't win a lot of games in the regular season or spring training. Do they give out Nobel Peace Prizes for discoveries that profound?

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6 minutes ago, WestEddy said:

The Sox aren't trying to prove anything, you are. And you're not doing very good at it. The Sox aren't going to be a good team this year. It stands to reason that a rebuilding team won't win a lot of games in the regular season or spring training. Do they give out Nobel Peace Prizes for discoveries that profound?

Other teams in ST are playing their scrubs most of the game.  They pull their starters early.  For the Sox, all of their players are scrubs, haha.  So it kind of makes sense.

When is Getz expected to field a competitive team in your opinion of a timeline?  I want your post on record…

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7 minutes ago, WestEddy said:

The Sox aren't trying to prove anything, you are. And you're not doing very good at it. The Sox aren't going to be a good team this year. It stands to reason that a rebuilding team won't win a lot of games in the regular season or spring training. Do they give out Nobel Peace Prizes for discoveries that profound?

According to Fox News...they give them out simply for things you might potentially accomplish.

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7 minutes ago, WhiteSox2023 said:

Other teams in ST are playing their scrubs most of the game.  They pull their starters early.  For the Sox, all of their players are scrubs, haha.  So it kind of makes sense.

When is Getz expected to field a competitive team in your opinion of a timeline?  I want your post on record…

More importantly, how long will Getz's employment last after Ishbia assumes control...?

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