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52 minutes ago, The Mighty Mite said:

The Sox drew 2,009,000 in 2022.

There is a technicality that they have to be full price tickets. So when they give a Family Sunday discount or some other sale, those tickets do not count toward the total.

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13 hours ago, ewokpelts said:

Soldier field hosts events beyond the bears. AC/DC and beyonce literally played multiple shows last week there. 
the facility rental, and taxes collected from admissions, concessions, and march is not insignificant. And then there’s the parking on city owned lots. 

Soldier field is not getting torn down after the last bears game there. 
 

yes there would be no “rent” but also the bonds would be paid off. So the largest cost is gone. 
 

 

I was talking about the ballpark, not Soldier Field. Also, why are you quoting something from 2 months ago?

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4 hours ago, tray said:

Live Nation Entertainment owns Credit Union 1 Amphitheater in Tinley Park.  That would be a great location near the center of Sox Nation if the Sox ever move from their historic home.

If you thought the Sox were irrelevant now, go ahead and move them to the south suburbs. Absolutely brutal idea, and that's coming from someone who grew up 5 miles from the venue. 

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3 hours ago, Dick Allen said:

There is a technicality that they have to be full price tickets. So when they give a Family Sunday discount or some other sale, those tickets do not count toward the total.

Official attendance at  Baseball Reference has it at 2,009,000 so maybe all that was considered. BTW I consider Baseball Reference the best baseball site on the internet.

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9 hours ago, tray said:

Live Nation Entertainment owns Credit Union 1 Amphitheater in Tinley Park.  That would be a great location near the center of Sox Nation if the Sox ever move from their historic home.

Getting in/out of there for any concert is a nightmare so I can't imagine how much worse it would be with the Sox there 81 games a season. There's certainly nothing immediately by there to keep you in the area, unless you're a big fan of the driving range or a haggard looking Odyssey Fun World.

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6 hours ago, The Mighty Mite said:

Official attendance at  Baseball Reference has it at 2,009,000 so maybe all that was considered. BTW I consider Baseball Reference the best baseball site on the internet.

Yes, I’m sure that number is right, what I am saying is any discounted ticket doesn’t count towards JRs deal with the state.

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2 hours ago, Dick Allen said:

Yes, I’m sure that number is right, what I am saying is any discounted ticket doesn’t count towards JRs deal with the state.

So you are saying that maybe 100,000 or more tickets were discounted then JR didn’t have to pay rent, very interesting. 

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On 3/9/2025 at 4:59 AM, The Mighty Mite said:

Correct, the ballpark is in fine shape, easy to get to, plenty of parking and excellent public transportation. The problem is that the perception by many is that it’s in a bad neighborhood, real Sox fans know that’s not true. I never had  trouble going to over 200 games from 1955 until we moved to Florida in 1993 but history shows that the Sox were never a huge draw at 35th and Shields, one of the few MLB teams that has failed to draw 3 million in a season, came close twice but no cigar, pretty sad for a Major market team.

Nobody wants a giant parking lot anymore, especially with public transit as good as there is down there.

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On 5/31/2025 at 10:19 PM, caulfield12 said:

The Ishbias wouldn't have gotten involved with the White Sox if it meant waiting until 2035 for the pre planning stages of a new stadium.

The fanbase can't survive that long waiting with the fifth or sixth oldest stadium, either.

the fanbase will be just fine. it survived the total removal of the dan ryan expressway and it's reconstruction 2.9 million fans somehow made it to the park without a superhighway in 2006, and 2.6ish in 2007.

ya wanna know why? because they recently won a world series, and winning cures most problems, even temporarily.

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