Capn12 Posted March 13 Share Posted March 13 I would say, it must suck to have ownership like that, as a fan......but.... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WBWSF Posted March 14 Share Posted March 14 On 3/11/2025 at 9:41 PM, Lip Man 1 said: DeBartolo said he would move to Chicago and spend 20% of his time and business interests there. He was turned down for bogus reasons, the fact that he owned race tracks (i.e. so did Steinbrenner but that didn't seem to be an issue) and because he "supposedly" had connections with some Italian "families" (nudge, nudge, wink, wink SAY no more!) A big reason he was turned down was because he was going to spend big money on the franchise and the other owners were horrified at that prospect. He had already given Veeck money to sign LeFlore and Essian. He also would have built a stadium for the team with his own money. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lip Man 1 Posted March 14 Share Posted March 14 58 minutes ago, WBWSF said: He also would have built a stadium for the team with his own money. I've never seen that anywhere before either in print or broadcast but anything is possible. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted March 15 Author Share Posted March 15 https://apnews.com/article/rays-steinbrenner-field-makeover-a843685deca2a9023e3fcb4a02c83217 120 hours to transform new Rays' home field Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ewokpelts Posted yesterday at 01:14 PM Share Posted yesterday at 01:14 PM On 3/8/2025 at 10:46 PM, soxfan18 said: The issue is the lease is ending, and the current deal is horrible for the state, so they're not going to be too keen on simply extending the team-friendly agreement. It’s been extended TWICE. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ewokpelts Posted yesterday at 01:19 PM Share Posted yesterday at 01:19 PM On 3/8/2025 at 11:19 PM, caulfield12 said: There's going to be a taxpayer-funded subsidy flowing to JR this year if attendance somehow drops below 800,000 though... It just means he doesn’t pay the rent. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulfield12 Posted yesterday at 01:23 PM Author Share Posted yesterday at 01:23 PM (edited) 13 minutes ago, ewokpelts said: It just means he doesn’t pay the rent. There's a IFSA ticket subsidy if attendance falls below 800,000...just like there was a small tax charged to the Sox for every ticket sold above 1.93 million. The management agreement between ISFA and the White Sox “requires the team to pay a base rent per season, plus net ticket fees if paid attendance exceeds 1.93 million tickets," with that "excluding 'comp' tickets." The team “hasn’t paid ticket fees since 2010,” when it drew nearly 2.2 million fans. Last year, the franchise brought in their highest attendance since then, 1.92 million fans -- “just missing the threshold needed to pay ISFA.” While ISFA does "not heavily rely on revenue from ticket fees to meet its bond obligations,” the “glaring issue is the White Sox’s ability to bring in fans” https://www.sportsbusinessjournal.com/Articles/2023/09/14/chicago-white-sox-ticket-sales-no-fee-payments-isfa/ Edited yesterday at 01:27 PM by caulfield12 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ewokpelts Posted yesterday at 01:35 PM Share Posted yesterday at 01:35 PM On 3/11/2025 at 9:38 PM, Lip Man 1 said: He had a very small percentage. Said selling out his share to JR was one of the biggest mistakes he ever made. In an alternate universe, the bulls owned by wirtz/hunt/steinbrenner don't win 6 championships over 8 years. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pcq Posted yesterday at 02:03 PM Share Posted yesterday at 02:03 PM Three teams who are not qualified or have no need for a major league park. Three weak sisters of your American League. Next. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted yesterday at 02:12 PM Share Posted yesterday at 02:12 PM 54 minutes ago, caulfield12 said: There's a IFSA ticket subsidy if attendance falls below 800,000...just like there was a small tax charged to the Sox for every ticket sold above 1.93 million. The management agreement between ISFA and the White Sox “requires the team to pay a base rent per season, plus net ticket fees if paid attendance exceeds 1.93 million tickets," with that "excluding 'comp' tickets." The team “hasn’t paid ticket fees since 2010,” when it drew nearly 2.2 million fans. Last year, the franchise brought in their highest attendance since then, 1.92 million fans -- “just missing the threshold needed to pay ISFA.” While ISFA does "not heavily rely on revenue from ticket fees to meet its bond obligations,” the “glaring issue is the White Sox’s ability to bring in fans” https://www.sportsbusinessjournal.com/Articles/2023/09/14/chicago-white-sox-ticket-sales-no-fee-payments-isfa/ Pretty sure it was said they got rid of the state ever paying anything last time around. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
soxfan18 Posted yesterday at 02:30 PM Share Posted yesterday at 02:30 PM 1 hour ago, ewokpelts said: It’s been extended TWICE. And? Times have changed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ewokpelts Posted yesterday at 02:42 PM Share Posted yesterday at 02:42 PM 16 minutes ago, soxfan18 said: And? Times have changed. The soldier field/sox park refinanced bonds expire in 2023. After that the state would “make money” with any lease extension, even at the current terms. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
soxfan18 Posted yesterday at 04:34 PM Share Posted yesterday at 04:34 PM 1 hour ago, ewokpelts said: The soldier field/sox park refinanced bonds expire in 2023. After that the state would “make money” with any lease extension, even at the current terms. They still lose money since they collect no rent when the team doesn't draw. The agreement also guarantees the state will pay for upgrades if they fall into the bottom 3rd of baseball in something, that's why the state had to pay for a new videoboard. It's a shitty deal for the state, that's not debatable. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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