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38 minutes ago, The Mighty Mite said:

Cleveland robbed us with great plays all series and did the same thing when they played us at The Rate.

Defense wins games, it's called fundamentals.

24th game the Sox lost when they held the opponent to three runs or less. 

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@southsider2k5

so I went and counted Sosa's September numbers on 2 strike counts for some reason.

23 plate appearances, on base 4 times, 2 singles, 1 double, 1 walk, 13 Ks.

.136 BA/.173 OBP/.166SLG.

.339 OPS

54% k rate

4% BB rate

7 outs on pitches out of the zone. Some of the 'in the zone' pitches were cuspy. On the edge. It's a wonder why anyone would throw him a pitch in the zone. eye don't lie. now you do some kind of analysis.

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1 hour ago, nrockway said:

@southsider2k5

so I went and counted Sosa's September numbers on 2 strike counts for some reason.

23 plate appearances, on base 4 times, 2 singles, 1 double, 1 walk, 13 Ks.

.136 BA/.173 OBP/.166SLG.

.339 OPS

54% k rate

4% BB rate

7 outs on pitches out of the zone. Some of the 'in the zone' pitches were cuspy. On the edge. It's a wonder why anyone would throw him a pitch in the zone. eye don't lie. now you do some kind of analysis.

So you ignored the full season numbers where he is 2nd in MLB, narrowed it down to a sample size that fit the narrative and declared victory, even tagging me in a separate post to do so.

Yeah, sure. Calm down buddy. 

My analysis is full season > September. 

The kid made a massive leap from being buried in the minors and on the roster by over the hill utility guys, to one of the Sox leading power hitters.  Dude turned himself into the conversation as a playable starter somewhere despite his actual biggest flaw, his glove. 

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Pitchers are getting ahead of Colson or getting him out on high inside fastballs.  Obviously, that pitching strategy is frequently employed against LH hitters, especially those with that nice long swing he has. I don't know what the best counter-strategy might be,  but I would hate to see him change his swing if it impacts his power.  Colson's HR have been a highlight of this season and he needs to build on that next season.

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15 hours ago, tray said:

Pitchers are getting ahead of Colson or getting him out on high inside fastballs.  Obviously, that pitching strategy is frequently employed against LH hitters, especially those with that nice long swing he has. I don't know what the best counter-strategy might be,  but I would hate to see him change his swing if it impacts his power.  Colson's HR have been a highlight of this season and he needs to build on that next season.

LH hitters whose strong hand is their right like the ball low, as we should know.  We should not assume the same is true of natural left handers. 

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16 hours ago, tray said:

Pitchers are getting ahead of Colson or getting him out on high inside fastballs.  Obviously, that pitching strategy is frequently employed against LH hitters, especially those with that nice long swing he has. I don't know what the best counter-strategy might be,  but I would hate to see him change his swing if it impacts his power.  Colson's HR have been a highlight of this season and he needs to build on that next season.

The shine is starting to come off of Colson honestly, I don't know how successful he is going to be if he's a .200 hitter striking out 30%+ of the time. 

This is the critical time moving into next year to see him take a step forward and not back.

Last 7 Days hitting .143 with a 52% K Rate

Last 14 Days hitting .208 with a 43% K Rate

Last 28 Days hitting .200 with a 32% K Rate

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19 minutes ago, T R U said:

The shine is starting to come off of Colson honestly, I don't know how successful he is going to be if he's a .200 hitter striking out 30%+ of the time. 

This is the critical time moving into next year to see him take a step forward and not back.

Last 7 Days hitting .143 with a 52% K Rate

Last 14 Days hitting .208 with a 43% K Rate

Last 28 Days hitting .200 with a 32% K Rate

OK, if you isolate and extrapolate the last 28 days instead of the prior time since he came up, OK, you're right and perhaps a cause for concern over time.

My own opinion is that he may have gotten a bit pull happy the last few weeks after hitting some long home runs.  Then there is the fact that the Sox have little reason to compete whereas some opponents have been all in for the playoffs. I am not anticipating that the Sox put max effort in for the last 2 weeks. Of course they should, but realistically most have been making plans and looking forward to the off-season. Home crowds have diminished so its basically over this season. Don't make too much of it.

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1 hour ago, T R U said:

The shine is starting to come off of Colson honestly, I don't know how successful he is going to be if he's a .200 hitter striking out 30%+ of the time. 

If he's hitting .200 with 30% Ks, he won't be successful.

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21 minutes ago, Lip Man 1 said:

Those are Adam Dunn-like numbers.

Let's hope this isn't what he turns out to be. 

Most people saw this coming, just like the PCA regression.  You just can’t swing and miss that much.  It just took longer than it should’ve for the League to figure out PCA.

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2 hours ago, GreenSox said:

If he's hitting .200 with 30% Ks, he won't be successful.

Maybe not, but if it’s .200 with 35-40 homers and an .800 OPS it’s not like that spells doom for you. 

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1 hour ago, T R U said:

Maybe not, but if it’s .200 with 35-40 homers and an .800 OPS it’s not like that spells doom for you. 

True, but rare is the player who can do that or make anything positive out of either .200 or 30%Ks , much less both.

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