7 minutes ago, nrockway said:

I wrote that Sean Manaea got DFA'd which was wrong...Manoah did. Tomato, tomahto sort of thing...bad pitcher, baaaad pitcher.

The point being they're paying the guy $75mil to pitch to a 5.59 ERA. That's actual wasted money, $2mil is pretty marginal.

We have our own wasted money — Benintendi (0.9 bWAR) and Robert (1.4 bWAR).

2 minutes ago, Dick Allen said:

They make such a big deal about winning games now giving them confidence and momentum for next season. Last year they won 5 of their last 6.

Playoff feel for the White Sox in this series!

Shut the hell up, John.

I can't believe they are bringing Schriffen back next year. I mean, I can, because it's the white sox, but even Beckham is not really taking it anymore. He basically just said "no I am not singing the stupid Jeff Vooch jingle."

 

On another note, Beckham's gotten a lot better. I really like his style and analysis.

4 minutes ago, Dick Allen said:

They make such a big deal about winning games now giving them confidence and momentum for next season. Last year they won 5 of their last 6.

Ending up in the 50s for victories seems like a huge disappointment.

We'll see which team wants to play in the Cellar Dwellers Bowl.

 

Kyle Schwarber with the quietest 56 homers ever...FA year lol.

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6 minutes ago, nrockway said:

I wrote that Sean Manaea got DFA'd which was wrong...Manoah did. Tomato, tomahto sort of thing...bad pitcher, baaaad pitcher.

The point being they're paying the guy $75mil to pitch to a 5.59 ERA. That's actual wasted money, $2mil is pretty marginal.

Manaea was good last year and a part of the Mets advancing to the NLCS. Not sure I’d call that a waste.

2 minutes ago, caulfield12 said:

Ending up in the 50s for victories seems like a huge disappointment.

We'll see which team wants to play in the Cellar Dwellers Bowl.

Still a decent shot to eke out two more wins. Regardless, it’s a third consecutive 100 loss season which is god awful.

5 minutes ago, WhiteSox2023 said:

We have our own wasted money — Benintendi (0.9 bWAR) and Robert (1.4 bWAR).

yeah but Hahn signed those guys and he got fired. Robert isn't wasted money.

The Yankees let the Sox toy with them yesterday but not today.

2 minutes ago, JUSTgottaBELIEVE said:

Manaea was good last year and a part of the Mets advancing to the NLCS. Not sure I’d call that a waste.

Mets were almost magical down the stretch last year.  Especially Iglesias.

Doesn't happen every single season.

Finishing the season 1-13 will pretty much negate all the post all-star good the Sox did.

Edited September 25, 2025Sep 25 by Tomtom

3-1 Guardians.

Pressure mounting for DET.

Hunter Brown going tonight in SAC.

4 minutes ago, JUSTgottaBELIEVE said:

Manaea was good last year and a part of the Mets advancing to the NLCS. Not sure I’d call that a waste.

Sox paid Benintendi after 2 consecutive 3 WAR seasons. It's still a waste of money. The Mets also paid Ryne Stankey $4.5mil after he pitched to a 6 ERA with them and now a 5 ERA rather than paying Vasil...$750k or whatever. That's harder to explain.

2 minutes ago, Tomtom said:

Finishing the season 1-13 will pretty much negateall the post all-star good the Sox did.

Not sure that Gore hasn't given up...but the Nats' pen very solid at back end recently.

2 minutes ago, Tomtom said:

Finishing the season 1-13 will pretty much negateall the post all-star good the Sox did.

Geez, didn’t even realize they’re about to be 1-10 over their last 11. So much for all the silly talk about this being a “different” team post ASB. Still suck.

7 minutes ago, nrockway said:

Sox paid Benintendi after 2 consecutive 3 WAR seasons. It's still a waste of money. The Mets also paid Ryne Stankey $4.5mil after he pitched to a 6 ERA with them and now a 5 ERA rather than paying Vasil...$750k or whatever. That's harder to explain.

And if the Sox made it to the LCS with Beni having a 3 WAR season I wouldn’t consider it wasted money. Damn, at this point, I’d take playoffs.

Edited September 25, 2025Sep 25 by JUSTgottaBELIEVE

7 minutes ago, Ducksnort said:

I can't believe they are bringing Schriffen back next year. I mean, I can, because it's the white sox, but even Beckham is not really taking it anymore. He basically just said "no I am not singing the stupid Jeff Vooch jingle."

 

On another note, Beckham's gotten a lot better. I really like his style and analysis.

same here when I watch the other teams' broadcast.

Schriffen - 120 loss season

Beckham - 101 loss season

Both are not good.  We get a constant flow of former Sox has beens.  

6 minutes ago, nrockway said:

Sox paid Benintendi after 2 consecutive 3 WAR seasons. It's still a waste of money. The Mets also paid Ryne Stankey $4.5mil after he pitched to a 6 ERA with them and now a 5 ERA rather than paying Vasil...$750k or whatever. That's harder to explain.

https://www.fangraphs.com/players/andrew-benintendi/17901/stats?position=OF

He averaged 1.5 fWAR from 2019-22, look again... although 2020 results are speed due to Covid.

His NYY numbers after that deadline trade from KC really lifted him, but still just a 2 fWAR for the combined season.

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12 minutes ago, WhiteSox2023 said:

We have our own wasted money — Benintendi (0.9 bWAR) and Robert (1.4 bWAR).

Those are the free agents you get when losing is a habit.  They don't really bring anything to the table.

Some still ignore the reality that no big time free agents would be willing to play here. 

5 minutes ago, caulfield12 said:

https://www.fangraphs.com/players/andrew-benintendi/17901/stats?position=OF

He averaged 1.5 fWAR from 2019-22, look again... although 2020 results are speed due to Covid.

His NYY numbers after that deadline trade from KC really lifted him, but still just a 2 fWAR for the combined season.

depends on the website I guess. -4.5 defensive WAR seems, I dunno, a little off considering he won a GG.

Edited September 25, 2025Sep 25 by nrockway

Cy Young voting will be really tight if DET misses post season...still think that Skubal barely takes it over Crochet, who is winning again tonight with a shoutout going.

Baron up 2-0

2 minutes ago, nrockway said:

depends on the website I guess

bWAR maybe but most consider fWAR the better measure for position players due to the defensive focus that kills Benintendi

15 minutes ago, caulfield12 said:

Ending up in the 50s for victories seems like a huge disappointment.

We'll see which team wants to play in the Cellar Dwellers Bowl.

 

Kyle Schwarber with the quietest 56 homers ever...FA year lol.

lol wat?  He has been a highlight machine all season 

1 minute ago, caulfield12 said:

bWAR maybe but most consider fWAR the better measure for position players due to the defensive focus that kills Benintendi

I dunno about that. Fangraphs gives Grandal 40 WAR and baseball-reference gives him 20 WAR. Their calculations seem dubious to me. 

2 minutes ago, nrockway said:

I dunno about that. Fangraphs gives Grandal 40 WAR and baseball-reference gives him 20 WAR. Their calculations seem dubious to me. 

Sometimes stats deceive the eyes.