10 minutes ago, oldsox said:

Everyone says the outfield is the worst in MLB. Maybe so, but it will get worse if Colson strikes out 50% of the time, forcing them to move Acuna to Short.

Or CLE…or KC, but look no further than the Central for bad.

35 minutes ago, Look at Ray Ray Run said:

How about this; stop trading with the Dodgers and Rays thinking you're going to tap into something with a player that they couldn't. Let's start with an organization like the Rockies and work our way up!

Vargas is one of the few positions NOT in the bottom ten across mlb…but just barely.

“Luisangel Acuña quickly locked up center with his impressive athleticism and excellent showing at the plate. However, with some less-than-stellar results in his previous big league stints, the leash could be relatively short.

This would feel even more like the case if Brooks Baldwin is added back into the mix upon his return from the 10-day IL. Baldwin had a very solid spring and offers some valuable defensive versatility. Having said that, Derek Hill checks a very similar box and may currently have as much of Venable's trust. Even Tristan Peters has some high upside defensive chops that he paired with some solid plate appearances in camp.” Si.com

Peters is already 26 and has subpar exit velocity. Just don’t get it as Peters Hill Baldwin all bring somewhat similar profiles….unless Baldwin’s suddenly more than a 12-15 homer power hitter.

Edited 3 hours ago3 hr by caulfield12

6 OFers on the 25 man, that are actually about 1.75 OFers.

1 hour ago, fathom said:

Getz really sucks at this. Houser trade was another disaster.

1 hour ago, Look at Ray Ray Run said:

Mead actually showed a bit of power this spring between the WBC and Spring training, and power was always his only ++ tool.

I didn't like the trade at the time, but I would have liked to give Mead some run this year to see if he could tap into the power he had pre-injury.

edit: Keeping Bene and Hill over Mead is just not serious baseball. I know that Mead isn't an OF'er by trade, but get flexible with your org. Bene and Hill serve zero value or purpose to this org.

So is the implication here that the front office declined better offers for Houser to ultimately choose Mead, Peoples and Davitt 5 mins before the deadline?

Keeping Benintendi isn't a front office decision. The owner doesn't like paying players to go away.

I don’t think you’ve ever seen me blame Getz for not releasing Benintendi. We know that’s a Jerry thing. The Mead thing just irks me because Getz continues to act like former top prospects who have seen their stock plummet is some new market inefficiency.

Edited 1 hour ago1 hr by fathom

1 minute ago, fathom said:

I don’t think you’ve ever seen me blame Getz for not releasing Benintendi. We know that’s a Jerry thing. The Mead thing just irks me because Getz continues to act like former top prospects who have seen their stock plummet is some new market efficiency.

Not even DePodesta’s going in that so-called direction after a decade in the NFL.

I'm satisfied with the Houser trade. It's not clear that any team was willing to give up anything for him. I don't regard Mead as untalented and I would gladly have him over Peters or Hill in a vacuum. I don't think it's crazy to give up on him considering the handedness and position he plays. The Sox also got more than Mead in the deal. I think the market inefficiency that interests Getz is 26-man roster spots which he expects/expected to have in spades and can use as a place to try out players who are out of options. That said, willingness to walk away from a player who he no longer thinks is worthwhile is probably something to be commended in general even if we would prefer that every acquisition pans out.

I still don't get the need to release Benintendi. The Sox literally have no OFs of interest close to the majors. If you want to make the argument he isn't an OF and is a DH (fair argument, btw), and that there is no room for him there either, I think the Teel injury quickly showed that wasn't really the case. If we get to a point where Beni is blocking Teel or Quero ABs and is sucking up the joint, the calculus changes. But for now, that is not the case.

Beni is not good, but the Sox could do far worse. If they had interesting AAAA guys or fringe prospects to try out there, sure. But they don't. I see no reason to pay him to play elsewhere, and it wouldn't be that surprising to see him deliver a 100-105 wRC+ season. Which for this team, could easily be a top 3-5 bat on the squad. He has had entended mid-season stretches where he has looked very playable; they've just been pre or proceeded by stretches of futility, largely due to playing injured.

Edited 34 minutes ago34 min by ChiSox59