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White Sox Winner 6-3

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Good thing the Sox had Leasure, their best reliever, available to get that high leverage out in the 7th and take care of business in the 8th today.

Just to be smug, I’m gonna post in the thread for today’s win also.

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  • Dick Allen
    Dick Allen

    I’m loving this. And we didn’t have to listen to Schriffem. Was he suspended?

  • Autumn Dreamin
    Autumn Dreamin

    Just bad luck for Toronto, having to play the Pope's team on a holy weekend

  • soxrwhite
    soxrwhite

    Of course. My bad. For some reason I was thinking it was a four game series. Maybe because game one was potponed.

11 hours ago, nrockway said:

I'm worried his arm might fall off. Something about that 98th percentile extension despite being "only" 6'3. Can it be repeated 100 times a game?

Despite all the talk in the off season about trading him which I found rather ridiculous, no matter how yoy feel about it the White Sox have to be the team that tries him as a starter.

1st he's a very talented but young arm with the ceiling of being a special arm. Why trade that away ?

If there's only a slight possibility of him becoming an elite starter or elite reliever why would you trade that awsy before he had a chance to develop into that ?

I respect Bannister probably more than a lot of people here but even with his reservations about future concerns for his health if he starts, how his arm holds up as a SP is not written in stone. Just look what happened with Crochet. So few thought he'd never hold up as a starting pitcher but he not only held up he excelled .

Obviously Bannister didnt have the same concerns about Crochet as he may for Taylor but the future is not written. The concerns are only based on some probabilities that could apply but are not guaranteed to be predictive.

6 minutes ago, CaliSoxFanViaSWside said:

Despite all the talk in the off season about trading him which I found rather ridiculous, no matter how yoy feel about it the White Sox have to be the team that tries him as a starter.

1st he's a very talented but young arm with the ceiling of being a special arm. Why trade that away ?

If there's only a slight possibility of him becoming an elite starter or elite reliever why would you trade that awsy before he had a chance to develop into that ?

I respect Bannister probably more than a lot of people here but even with his reservations about future concerns for his health if he starts, how his arm holds up as a SP is not written in stone. Just look what happened with Crochet. So few thought he'd never hold up as a starting pitcher but he not only held up he excelled .

Obviously Bannister didnt have the same concerns about Crochet as he may for Taylor but the future is not written. The concerns are only based on some probabilities that could apply but are not guaranteed to be predictive.

Must be his mechanics or throwing more with arm/shoulder/elbow compared to more stress on lower legs/trunk.

"An elbow injury in Year 1 or 2 of his MLB development could be catastrophic to Taylor's career. We've already seen how arm injuries reshaped Michael Kopech's arc. And for what it's worth, Taylor has already had one Tommy John surgery. They know the injury risk."

Shohei and Ragans have already had two surgeries, but it used to be the "average career span" at that point for starting pitchers was just 50-100 more innings across a huge sample of former pitchers.

8 hours ago, vilehoopster said:

Good thing the Sox had Leasure, their best reliever, available to get that high leverage out in the 7th and take care of business in the 8th today.

Just to be smug, I’m gonna post in the thread for today’s win also.

Sometimes you have to be smug even if smugnesd shouldnt apply for small sample size. This isn't football where every win and loss counts a lot more.

However there is a lot of smugness going around by the same people who accuse me of tooting my own horn because while tooting my horn, its not so much about that , it's that in order for me to be right others have to be wrong and pointing that out is what really get's their goat.

I had really good timing yesterday when I said I didnt really care how they use Taylor I just want to see more zeros by Sox pitchers so what happened next is 9 innings of zeros for the sweep.

Also about 2 days before they released Paez I said I thought they got too cute trying to keep a pitcher who obviously didnt belong on the MLB team.They easily couldve kept Pallette because he was more ready having worked his way up through the system but they never gave him a chance or a trial run at the end of the 2025 season and Cleveland grabbed him in the Rule 5 .

Looks like the Guardians have used him as an opener a couple of times .Again small sample size but the results have been good whereas the small sample size with Paez on the road was enough to say that keeping him over more polished arms was a mistake.

34 minutes ago, caulfield12 said:

Must be his mechanics or throwing more with arm/shoulder/elbow compared to more stress on lower legs/trunk.

I dont know what it is. I'm not going to.pretend I've researched the reasons why Bannister feels the way he does or try to explain it out of my ass. I will never overestimate my lack of ability to talk about the techical or the mechanics of hitting and pitching.

My expertise about baseball if I have any, is that it requires patience and a certain detachment separate from your fandom to keep things in perspective and analyze situations.

Of course my general attitude about the Sox is that I want them to succeed and I tend to focus on the small steps they are taking in a very bad situation and that there is real progress being made.

That doesnt mean I think everything they do works but I dont dwell on it or let the past color my observations . Too many fans see patterns of destruction but all teams make mistakes with personnel and the amount of personnel decisions that go bad is directly related to how much you invest in them. The smaller the amount the more likely they are to not have much impact. This is why theres so much dumpster diving . JR isnt willing to invest in the future of the team anymore unless he can see a net positive like with Murakami likely to bring in a certain amount of revenue .

But we havent heard anything like what Houston did before they signed Imai with the Astros building the relationship with Japanese Industrial Firm Daikin Comfort Technologies first . This helpef facilitate the Astros deeper entry into the Japanese market, assisting in the scouting and signing of Imai.

It appears the Sox or JR never had the foresight to do that before signing Murakami.

Hopefully having a real owner who's focus is not solely domestic based leading to hiring inexperienced front office personnel who know little about building international relationships will change once the Ishbia's take over. Make no doubt about it this is big business and we've seen enough of Jerry treating the Sox like a real estate holding for tax benefits.

Maybe we all need to be brought up to speed. This is how the big boys do it.

Edited by CaliSoxFanViaSWside

7 hours ago, CaliSoxFanViaSWside said:

Sometimes you have to be smug even if smugnesd shouldnt apply for small sample size. This isn't football where every win and loss counts a lot more.

However there is a lot of smugness going around by the same people who accuse me of tooting my own horn because while tooting my horn, its not so much about that , it's that in order for me to be right others have to be wrong and pointing that out is what really get's their goat.

I had really good timing yesterday when I said I didnt really care how they use Taylor I just want to see more zeros by Sox pitchers so what happened next is 9 innings of zeros for the sweep.

Also about 2 days before they released Paez I said I thought they got too cute trying to keep a pitcher who obviously didnt belong on the MLB team.They easily couldve kept Pallette because he was more ready having worked his way up through the system but they never gave him a chance or a trial run at the end of the 2025 season and Cleveland grabbed him in the Rule 5 .

Looks like the Guardians have used him as an opener a couple of times .Again small sample size but the results have been good whereas the small sample size with Paez on the road was enough to say that keeping him over more polished arms was a mistake.

It's gotta be hard being right as often as you are and having to educate everyone. Very kind of you!

9 hours ago, Look at Ray Ray Run said:

It's gotta be hard being right as often as you are and having to educate everyone. Very kind of you!

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