Mehh May is a solid #3/4 innings eater, but we already have plenty of arms to fill the back of the rotation. Gotta go after top of the rotation starters that we can go into a big playoff game with confidence in.

Burke, Taylor, Castillo, Kay, Martin, Schultz, Thorpe, Sandlin, McDougal….depth isn’t the issue, go after the big fish please

3 minutes ago, TheFutureIsNear said:

Mehh May is a solid #3/4 innings eater, but we already have plenty of arms to fill the back of the rotation. Gotta go after top of the rotation starters that we can go into a big playoff game with confidence in.

Burke, Taylor, Castillo, Kay, Martin, Schultz, Thorpe, Sandlin, McDougal….depth isn’t the issue, go after the big fish please

I don’t even think he’s #3 quality. I’d rather see what the other younger guys you mentioned can do than throw any money at May. Any money going toward a FA starter should go to a true #1 or #2 quality pitcher. We’ll see if it happens…

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6 minutes ago, WhiteSox2023 said:

I don’t even think he’s #3 quality. I’d rather see what the other younger guys you mentioned can do than throw any money at May. Any money going toward a FA starter should go to a true #1 or #2 quality pitcher. We’ll see if it happens…

Then you basically have Skubal King Peralta Rogers Taira...not a long list

most wouldn't put Mahle on it despite post trade deadline results

Rogers SI projection

Will’s prediction: White Sox (four years, $84 million)
Nick’s prediction: Nationals (four years, $92 million)

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then Clay Holmes back to Cubs in $40-50 million range and Taira's predictions

Will’s prediction: Giants (three years, $36 million)
Nick’s prediction: White Sox (three years, $51 million)

4 minutes ago, WhiteSox2023 said:

I don’t even think he’s #3 quality. I’d rather see what the other younger guys you mentioned can do than throw any money at May. Any money going toward a FA starter should go to a true #1 or #2 quality pitcher. We’ll see if it happens…

Fair and agree. He was so bad for Milwaukee I forgot that trade ever happened. I was thinking he finished out a meaningless low 4’s ERA season with St Louis.

We are already going to waste a bunch of $ on a backend arm in Castillo, May would just add to that problem

SI

2027 Top 40 MLB Free Agents Big Board: Player Rankings, S...

The 2027 free agency class is notable for a few reasons, and not necessarily ones that reflect well on the group as a whole. There’s the big name at the top—two

anyone interested in #19-27 for Sox???

that's the tier they will be shopping in below Rogers Holmes Taira

remember Sunny Gray will be at 37 and rapidly aging considering there might not even be an Opening Day

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7 minutes ago, caulfield12 said:

Then you basically have Skubal King Peralta Rogers Taira...not a long list

most wouldn't put Mahle on it despite post trade deadline results

Rogers SI projection

Will’s prediction: White Sox (four years, $84 million)
Nick’s prediction: Nationals (four years, $92 million)

There’s no excuse for not being able to sign King or any of the guys you named outside of Skubal, but I’m not holding my breath. I think Getz avoids the free agent prices on starters and tries to trade for one, not that I think that’s the right strategy.

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1 minute ago, WhiteSox2023 said:

There’s no excuse for not being able to sign King. I’m not holding my breath. I think Getz avoids the free agent prices on starters and tries to trade for one, not that I think that’s the right strategy.

Too many big market teams are after him and Padres quite simply have to get him Skubal or Peralta for their fanbase

Mets have to make a big splash

Blue Jays can't afford to go backwards

7 minutes ago, WhiteSox2023 said:

There’s no excuse for not being able to sign King or any of the guys you named outside of Skubal, but I’m not holding my breath. I think Getz avoids the free agent prices on starters and tries to trade for one, not that I think that’s the right strategy.

Will’s prediction: Padres (four years, $104 million)
Nick’s prediction: Padres (four years, $100 million)

2 minutes ago, caulfield12 said:

Will’s prediction: Padres (four years, $104 million)
Nick’s prediction: Padres (four years, $100 million)

Completely reasonable deals considering the Sox payroll, but I agree that it won’t happen. The money that is spent will likely be on B and C tier free agents.

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8 minutes ago, WhiteSox2023 said:

There’s no excuse for not being able to sign King or any of the guys you named outside of Skubal, but I’m not holding my breath. I think Getz avoids the free agent prices on starters and tries to trade for one, not that I think that’s the right strategy.

Rasmussen will cost about the same as Detmers due to limited control...

Carlson/Schultz/??? etc.

OR

Bonemer

1 minute ago, WhiteSox2023 said:

Completely reasonable considering the Sox payroll, but I agree that it won’t happen.

and that could be underestimating by 5-10% based on the Bauers expectations being in the low $50s

3 minutes ago, caulfield12 said:

Rasmussen will cost about the same as Detmers due to limited control...

Carlson/Schultz/??? etc.

OR

Bonemer

I would trade Carlson in a second. He’s completely replaceable. Trade him before teams realize he has the pop of Madrigal. But with free agent prices like this, I would see if Schultz can improve and I wouldn’t consider trading Bonemer at all due to his power potential. That would be worse than giving up on the power potential of a guy like Boston Smith for an expensive old bum starter.

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11 minutes ago, WhiteSox2023 said:

I would trade Carlson in a second. He’s completely replaceable. Trade him before teams realize he has the pop of Madrigal. But with free agent prices like this, I would see if Schultz can improve and I wouldn’t consider trading Bonemer at all due to his power potential. That would be worse than giving up on the power potential of a guy like Boston Smith for an expensive old bum starter.

They make that Bonemer trade and they're all the way back to the 22nd-25th farm system in mlb again...

Meawhile DET CLE MIN all Top 10

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40 minutes ago, WhiteSox2023 said:

There’s no excuse for not being able to sign King or any of the guys you named outside of Skubal, but I’m not holding my breath. I think Getz avoids the free agent prices on starters and tries to trade for one, not that I think that’s the right strategy.

Getz first trade for a starting pitcher sucked. Just spend some fucking money for once. Get at least 2 starters in free agency. I would love King. Plus add a 2nd veteran starter like Gausman or Holmes.....2 year deals for either of those guys should absolutely be doable.

3 hours ago, caulfield12 said:

otoh guys like Walker Buehler nowhere close to the pitcher he was pre injury...which was Top Ten in the majors

May also hasn't been anywhere close

his velo also down 2-3 mph from peak

You quoted me before I edited it where I said his FIP was good and he had a velo jump of 1.5 in 2026. You didn't have to point out his downside to me because I already did that "or an injury filled year" as the alternative to hitting a sweet spot of improvement. Also I'm well aware he doesn't hit 100 MPH any more. He's had too many arm injuries for that and considering what else he's gone through it's surprising he even came back and had 2 straight decent years. And also yes for every action there is an equal and opposite reaction so I guess you the yang to my yin.

9 hours ago, caulfield12 said:

SI

2027 Top 40 MLB Free Agents Big Board: Player Rankings, S...

The 2027 free agency class is notable for a few reasons, and not necessarily ones that reflect well on the group as a whole. There’s the big name at the top—two

anyone interested in #19-27 for Sox???

that's the tier they will be shopping in below Rogers Holmes Taira

remember Sunny Gray will be at 37 and rapidly aging considering there might not even be an Opening Day

I mean, the Sox are getting one of Peralta or King, but keep doing China’s dirty work by being a troll bot.

2 hours ago, Chicago White Sox said:

I mean, the Sox are getting one of Peralta or King, but keep doing China’s dirty work by being a troll bot.

We’ll see. I wouldn’t bet a dollar of my own money on it happening and I think you would be foolish to do so as well.

Edited 1 hour ago1 hr by WhiteSox2023

3 hours ago, Chicago White Sox said:

I mean, the Sox are getting one of Peralta or King, but keep doing China’s dirty work by being a troll bot.

Don't you mean, Lutnik?

Besides, have you ever thought that if China's desperately buying Nvidia H200 chips through a back door channel, that they'll soon enough be more reliant upon and vulnerable to the US?

Huawei still is 2-3 years behind.

And that troll bot's too busy infecting the antiquated FAA infrastructure at the moment...unfortunately, it's the doing of their own subcontracted vendors that have gobbled up $36 billion since 2003 to achieve a pretty laughable 16-18% efficiency across the legacy networks.

13 hours ago, WhiteSox2023 said:

I would trade Carlson in a second. He’s completely replaceable. Trade him before teams realize he has the pop of Madrigal. But with free agent prices like this, I would see if Schultz can improve and I wouldn’t consider trading Bonemer at all due to his power potential. That would be worse than giving up on the power potential of a guy like Boston Smith for an expensive old bum starter.

Good decision not opening up an MVP PCA thread!

Surely not easy to hold back on the impulse.

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