Rauch611 Posted February 4, 2004 Share Posted February 4, 2004 DH...? Thomas as the cover page...scary, and rare seeing a Sox player on a page...you only see that when they are traded...thats interesting... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aboz56 Posted February 4, 2004 Share Posted February 4, 2004 What in the world are you talking about??? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoxFanForever Posted February 4, 2004 Share Posted February 4, 2004 All I saw was an article about DH and a picture of Edgar Martinez....am I missing something here? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperSteve Posted February 4, 2004 Share Posted February 4, 2004 What in the world are you talking about??? I think this calls for my good friend.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperSteve Posted February 4, 2004 Share Posted February 4, 2004 All I saw was an article about DH and a picture of Edgar Martinez....am I missing something here? I saw the same thing, but if you click back on the ESPN MLB homepage, it has a picture of the Big Hurt. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aboz56 Posted February 4, 2004 Share Posted February 4, 2004 I saw the same thing, but if you click back on the ESPN MLB homepage, it has a picture of the Big Hurt. And I am still wondering what the point of this post was in the first place... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rauch611 Posted February 4, 2004 Author Share Posted February 4, 2004 lol...point is, whenever a sox player is brought up by espn, they are traded shortly after..hmmm Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperSteve Posted February 4, 2004 Share Posted February 4, 2004 lol...point is, whenever a sox player is brought up by espn, they are traded shortly after..hmmm Loz got alot of play last year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aboz56 Posted February 4, 2004 Share Posted February 4, 2004 lol...point is, whenever a sox player is brought up by espn, they are traded shortly after..hmmm What is this based on, examples please, I'd be fascinated to learn of this newfound theory. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gene Honda Civic Posted February 4, 2004 Share Posted February 4, 2004 in rauch's defense click here Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rauch611 Posted February 4, 2004 Author Share Posted February 4, 2004 What is this based on, examples please, I'd be fascinated to learn of this newfound theory. When we picked up free agents...Canseco, Lofton the Wells deal, the Ritchie deal, and even the minor league deals, or even minor deals (Perry, Graffanino) were all reported by ESPN Insider.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aboz56 Posted February 4, 2004 Share Posted February 4, 2004 When we picked up free agents...Canseco, Lofton the Wells deal, the Ritchie deal, and even the minor league deals, or even minor deals (Perry, Graffanino) were all reported by ESPN Insider.... Okay, what is your point? The Frank picture is part of an article about how the DH is here to stay as part of the ESPN baseball section. It has nothing to do with ESPN Insider. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rauch611 Posted February 4, 2004 Author Share Posted February 4, 2004 Okay, what is your point? The Frank picture is part of an article about how the DH is here to stay as part of the ESPN baseball section. It has nothing to do with ESPN Insider. Aboz, I thought I read Insider, and yes, you have proven me wrong. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UofIChiSox Posted February 4, 2004 Share Posted February 4, 2004 Maybe I missed this, but under the picture of Thomas it says, "All hit and no glove? Frank Thomas prefers playing in the field." I know statistically Thomas does better when playing the field, but has he come out and publicly said he wants to play first base? Usually it's the whatever's best for the team stuff. I know defensive skills would definitely benefit him so that he could sign with an NL team, but I just don't remember him coming out and stating that before. It's also never mentioned in the DH article, wonder where they got it? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rauch611 Posted February 4, 2004 Author Share Posted February 4, 2004 Maybe I missed this, but under the picture of Thomas it says, "All hit and no glove? Frank Thomas prefers playing in the field." I know statistically Thomas does better when playing the field, but has he come out and publicly said he wants to play first base? Usually it's the whatever's best for the team stuff. I know defensive skills would definitely benefit him so that he could sign with an NL team, but I just don't remember him coming out and stating that before. It's also never mentioned in the DH article, wonder where they got it? How do we know if he likes playing in the field? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
striker Posted February 4, 2004 Share Posted February 4, 2004 Please stop fighting, you are making me nervous. :headshake Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aboz56 Posted February 4, 2004 Share Posted February 4, 2004 Aboz, I thought I read Insider, and yes, you have proven me wrong. I am not trying to get on ya...I was just wondering what this theory you were talking about was exactly...Anyhow, good times... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoxAce Posted February 4, 2004 Share Posted February 4, 2004 in rauch's defense click here Cheat saves the day But still confused about the topic... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsideirish Posted February 4, 2004 Share Posted February 4, 2004 How do we know if he likes playing in the field? There is a true story about how a man dies. This man goes to church with his wife. He quickly falls a sleep. He is dreaming about the French Revolution and he has been caught by the French and is about to be guillotined. Right before the blade hits him his wife taps him gently on the back of his neck to wake him up. The man has a heart attack and dies. Can anyone tell me what is wrong with this story? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DBAHO Posted February 4, 2004 Share Posted February 4, 2004 There is a true story about how a man dies. This man goes to church with his wife. He quickly falls a sleep. He is dreaming about the French Revolution and he has been caught by the French and is about to be guillotined. Right before the blade hits him his wife taps him gently on the back of his neck to wake him up. The man has a heart attack and dies. Can anyone tell me what is wrong with this story? Joan of Arc? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsideirish Posted February 4, 2004 Share Posted February 4, 2004 Joan of Arc? Ouch, that burned! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsideirish Posted February 4, 2004 Share Posted February 4, 2004 There is a true story about how a man dies. This man goes to church with his wife. He quickly falls a sleep. He is dreaming about the French Revolution and he has been caught by the French and is about to be guillotined. Right before the blade hits him his wife taps him gently on the back of his neck to wake him up. The man has a heart attack and dies. Can anyone tell me what is wrong with this story? If he died of a heart attack how the hell do we know what he was dreaming about? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
witesoxfan Posted February 4, 2004 Share Posted February 4, 2004 How do we know if he likes playing in the field? It shows in his stats. He hit something like .320 with an at-bat per homer ratio of something between 10 and 15(for this year is was 11.375, so I'll round up to 12) with an OPS of like 1.100. In other words, over a full year, if he had 500 at bats, he would hit about .320 with about 35-50 homers and an OPS of 1.000....those aren't the numbers exactly, but it is something like that. Meanwhile, as a DH, he hits .250 with an ab/hr ratio of slightly less, but not significantly(this year, it was about 13.3235, so I'll round up to 14....as you can tell, he hits a homer more often playing 1B then DHing, but an OPS of about 200 points less with more K's. Meaning if he played 1B a whole year, his numbers would be something like this(500 ab's): .320 42 140 110 BB's 100 K's .450 OBP .650 SLG% 1.100 OPS As a DH: .250 36 110 85 BB's 115 K's .365 OBP .550 SLG% .915 OPS As you can tell, there is actually a significant difference to him DHing and playing 1B. Therefore, we are under the assumption that he prefers to play 1B(along with the fact that I do believe he has stated that he likes playing the field, though not everyday) That ab/hr ratio of 11.375 is not his wackiest though. Against lefties, Thomas's ab/hr ratio is roughly 8.7645....or in other words, if he had 500 at bats against lefties in a year, he'd hit 57 homers. He gets the 546 he got in 03, he hits 62 homers. Isn't number crunching fun? BTW, on his splits for 1B projected and DH projected....I just made up the RBI totals, walk totals, and K totals....I reasoned them out and didn't just put bulls*** up there, but they are not statistically figured out by any means. His OBP, SLG%, and OPS are a little closer to the truth, but also not exact and could be off. Pay more attention to the average and RBI. Another thing, Thomas actually hit .350 as a 1Bman in limited time....I figured that his average would come down a little, but that's not guaranteed....when he was playing 1B full time in the mid 90s, he was hitting in the high .340s-low .350s....maybe it wouldn't fall. I am not sure. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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