May 23, 200421 yr Alrighty KW can we please stop playing musical chairs with the 5th slot and go find someone who's at least somewhat effective?
May 23, 200421 yr I'm sure he is/has been looking, but I'm not sure anyone else is looking to make that kind of trade this early.
May 23, 200421 yr Alrighty KW can we please stop playing musical chairs with the 5th slot and go find someone who's at least somewhat effective? I think right now it's gonna be tough to get someone over the trade wire unless we overpay. Maybe they sould just go with a 4 man rotation for now. I would help Garland. I heard Sinkerballers are more efective when not that rested
May 23, 200421 yr I still say we should trade for Wilson Alverez. I'm sure that they would take Konerko for Alverez and might even throw in Robin too.
May 23, 200421 yr Alrighty KW can we please stop playing musical chairs with the 5th slot and go find someone who's at least somewhat effective? Really, or at least get Garcia and move Sho or Garland to #5...
May 23, 200421 yr I still say we should trade for Wilson Alverez. I'm sure that they would take Konerko for Alverez and might even throw in Robin too. The dodgers definitely wouldn't do Alvarez for Konerko if they would, KW probably would have already pulled the trigger on that, because that would be a great trade.
May 23, 200421 yr Colon I cannot believe the organization that was touted as having the best minor league arms just a couple years ago so far has not produced something. I say give Neal at least two more starts then bring up someone else.
May 23, 200421 yr The dodgers definitely wouldn't do Alvarez for Konerko if they would, KW probably would have already pulled the trigger on that, because that would be a great trade. At this point i'd be happy with Nomo... We just need a guy who can get us at least 7 wins. We would be unstoppable if we could just win even a 1/4 of the games from the 5th starter spot.
May 23, 200421 yr At this point i'd be happy with Nomo... We just need a guy who can get us at least 7 wins. We would be unstoppable if we could just win even a 1/4 of the games from the 5th starter spot. Nomo is hurt and I don't want a guy throwing 85 MPH fastballs. If that's the case just keep Cotts were he is.
May 23, 200421 yr Is Alex Fernandez still around somewhere.... Or what about Mike Sirotka... A good to revive the career of a former White Sox starter maybe...
May 23, 200421 yr Is Alex Fernandez still around somewhere.... Or what about Mike Sirotka... A good to revive the career of a former White Sox starter maybe... I think Baldwin just declined being optioned to AAA for the Mets and was released... we could get him
May 23, 200421 yr I think Baldwin just declined being optioned to AAA for the Mets and was released... we could get him Hey I heard Dave Stieb is making a Comeback
May 23, 200421 yr I think Baldwin just declined being optioned to AAA for the Mets and was released... we could get him Lets do it. 7 Wins for the league minimum and then we dump his butt before the playoffs and go with a 4 man rotation!
May 23, 200421 yr Author I think Baldwin just declined being optioned to AAA for the Mets and was released... we could get him Boy. Talk about scraping the bottom of the barrel. This aint 2000 ok kiddies. LOL!
May 23, 200421 yr Author Hey, maybe Billy Botch can start one for us? LOL Wouldn't that be something.
May 23, 200421 yr I still say we should trade for Wilson Alverez. I'm sure that they would take Konerko for Alverez and might even throw in Robin too. Why is it there is always this stuff about trading Konerko and Valentin? Plus we never seem to think their worth any more than a 5th starter or some utility man in value. Please may we dispense with these kinds of statements?
May 23, 200421 yr Why is it there is always this stuff about trading Konerko and Valentin? Plus we never seem to think their worth any more than a 5th starter or some utility man in value. Please may we dispense with these kinds of statements? I'm in total agreement.
May 23, 200421 yr Let me bring this up for thought - if Lee were to be traded, what situation would you guys be most confident in: a.) Crazy idea first - bring up the unheralded Borchard, who has struggled but maybe a fire can be lit under his ass? That would be a stretch, though... b.) The more heralded Jeremy Reed, who's got a good eye, solid D, good stick, good on the bases, plus he's lefty. But I do NOT want to rush a kid who isn't ready, that isn't to say Jeremy Reed isn't ready... c.) And this is what I would do, and, actually I wouldn't be to mad about it - a LF platoon of Timo Perez/Aaron Rowand (vs lefties)/Ross Gload. I think we all know what Rowand could do when he's seeing the ball good (just before we traded for Everett last year, Rowand was crushing the ball). You'd have to play the hot bat/numbers with Gload and Timo. IMO Lee is very, VERY expendable at this point. I'd say he's even more expendable than Paul Konerko, because really we only have one option outside of a trade if we did trade Paully, that being Ross Gload. I'd try now, not later, NOW to make a package including Lee and Borchard (as well as others) to Seattle for Freddy Garcia. We need a fifth starter. It's pathetic that every fifth day we can barely expect to be in the ballgame. I'm friggin sick of it, honestly. A pitcher who can keep us in the game, have a less than 4.50 ERA is all I want. Please, Kenny, Please... P.S. Don't trade Sweeney.
May 23, 200421 yr Lee and Borchard for Garcia? Ummm .... NO! You can't let desperation force you to overpay. And that is major overpayment. I'd go with Borchard in left if Carlos was traded. At least, he'd get the first shot at it.
May 23, 200421 yr Lee and Borchard for Garcia? Ummm .... NO! You can't let desperation force you to overpay. And that is major overpayment. I'd go with Borchard in left if Carlos was traded. At least, he'd get the first shot at it. Tell me why Lee and Borchard for Garcia is overpaying, I'm just wondering... Because if that offer were on the table, I think I might make it official. Garcia has potential ace stuff, he'd give us not just a fifth starter, more like a number two or a number three, he'd give us a power-righty in the rotation. Not to mention he plays in a pretty damn good division offensively, and while some of the lineups are pretty good in the AL Central, they don't come close to the Rangers/Angels lineups. Yeah, I'd do Lee and Borchard for Freddy G.
May 23, 200421 yr Carlos Lee was our best player last year. He's gotton off to slow start this year, but he hasn't lost his talent. Joe Borchard still might "get it". Maybe. There is no way in hell I'd make that deal.
May 23, 200421 yr Yeah, I'd do Lee and Borchard for Freddy G. I would as well but I'm not sure Seattle would..
May 23, 200421 yr Carlos Lee was our best player last year. He's gotton off to slow start this year, but he hasn't lost his talent. Joe Borchard still might "get it". Maybe. There is no way in hell I'd make that deal. Ok - but we cannot continue to give up every fifth game, and in a trade, you need to give something to get something. IMO, we're deep at the OF position with Anderson, Reed, and Sweeney. Plus, pitching is what will win us the AL Central. Last year, had our fifth starter won just a few games for us, five, six, we might have won the AL Central. Rather, we messed around and went with Danny Wright, Neal Cotts (wasn't ready last year and isn't ready to START this year, but he's effective from the bullpen). Kenny needs to make a move, and if you can get a guy who can give you potentially ace-like stuff (so far this year, a 2.89 ERA IIRC) without giving up top prospects (Borchard is no longer a top prospect IMO), then you do it. Like I've said, I think a platoon at LF (Perez/Gload/Rowand) can give us anywhere from a 250 AVG to a 290 AVG, and if they can stay within that range, that will help the team, not to mention the production from Garcia. I can live with a lineup of: CF Harris 2B Uribe RF Mags DH Thomas SS Valentin 1B Konerko 3B Crede LF Rowand/Perez/Gload C Olivo/Alomar Especially if that is backed up by a rotation of Buerhle Loaiza Garcia Schoenwies Garland
May 23, 200421 yr I would as well but I'm not sure Seattle would.. Yeah - I realize that, I didn't say that they'd do that, it's just YASNY said that he wouldn't do that deal, and Im saying why I would do it, and why I feel Lee is very, very expendable...
May 23, 200421 yr Yeah - I realize that, I didn't say that they'd do that, it's just YASNY said that he wouldn't do that deal, and Im saying why I would do it, and why I feel Lee is very, very expendable... Understandable.
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