BobDylan Posted July 24, 2004 Author Share Posted July 24, 2004 Yeah, as if those .160 slow 1B bring a lot to the table. If we are thinking of strictly veteran leadership, why not bring in Scott Brosius? He's a veteran that has won some titles. Bringing in veteran strictly for leadership is ridiculous. If someone like Olerud has something left fine, if not take a pass. This team has a ton of veterans already. We don't need another one that can't hit... we already have Ben Davis. Now that would really be a dip s*** move. Olerud has been there before. Joe Borchard has not. While Olerud isn't his prime, he'll hit above .250 at the season's end. We don't know what Borchard will bring us. He's never really shown us anything that suggests he can hit above .200 for a couple of months. I'd much rather bring in an established veteran on the decline of his career than an overrated nearing bust status prospect. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DBAHO Posted July 24, 2004 Share Posted July 24, 2004 Olerud won't move away from the West Coast, I'd say he's headed to San Francisco. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmags Posted July 24, 2004 Share Posted July 24, 2004 the o's won't trade mora...last year was just phase one of their free agent surge, they still have tons left this year to get some good pitching in. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DBAHO Posted July 24, 2004 Share Posted July 24, 2004 Baltimore is offering a package of Jorge Julio and Brian Roberts around the league to try and get a quality starter, they missed out on Zito with this deal. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperSteve Posted July 24, 2004 Share Posted July 24, 2004 I'd give him a shot. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WilliamTell Posted July 24, 2004 Share Posted July 24, 2004 Olerud brings another lefty at bat to our team. It can't hurt to bring him in for a shot. I think it's worth the chance and best of all, it doesn't take away from the Sox farm system. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YASNY Posted July 24, 2004 Share Posted July 24, 2004 Olerud? No thank you. EDIT: An afterthought, here. I'd rather have Ventura than Olerud. At least Robin can be used at two positions. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Al Lopez Ghost (old) Posted July 24, 2004 Share Posted July 24, 2004 In 2000 we brought back Baines and he was through. Having him around created problems, it didn't solve any. I don't think Olerud has anything left. If we go out to get somebody, have it be somebody you know can help. Getting Olerud now is subtraction by addition. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
israel4ever Posted July 24, 2004 Share Posted July 24, 2004 Adding Olerud makes no sense. If you do that, you might as well say that Borchard sucks. Borchard's best side if lefty... if you want to bring in an established left-handed hitter fine. Just bring in a good one with something left in the tank. That is not Olerud. Nope...what you're saying is Borchard is not eeady for major league pitching yet! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoxFan1 Posted July 24, 2004 Share Posted July 24, 2004 A lineup of: 2B- Willie Harris CF- Aaron Rowand LF- Carlos Lee RF- Carl Everett 1B/DH- Paul Konerko SS- Jose Valentin DH/1B- John Olerud 3B- Joe Crede C- Sandy Alomar JR. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beck72 Posted July 24, 2004 Share Posted July 24, 2004 There are better options out there than Olerud. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Queen Prawn Posted July 24, 2004 Share Posted July 24, 2004 There are better options out there than Olerud. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cerbaho-WG Posted July 24, 2004 Share Posted July 24, 2004 There are better options out there than Olerud. For the league minimum? I don't know about that, and would definitely take a flyer on a guy like Olerud. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EvilJester99 Posted July 24, 2004 Share Posted July 24, 2004 Theres always Fred McGriff right? :puke Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick Allen Posted July 24, 2004 Share Posted July 24, 2004 If we're planning on heading deep in the playoffs, I'd rather have Olerud's veteranship in the clubhouse than some kid who's been overrated his entire career have another horrible stint in the big leagues. His veteran leadership has lead the Mariners to one of the worst records in baseball. He is done. The Mariners would rather pay him not to play, so they could look at a minor leaguer 3 years older than Borchard. Borchard's last stint wasn't so horrible. He easily could have had 3 or 4 more hits, and his average would have been well over .300. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigNDfan80 Posted July 24, 2004 Share Posted July 24, 2004 His veteran leadership has lead the Mariners to one of the worst records in baseball. He is done. The Mariners would rather pay him not to play, so they could look at a minor leaguer 3 years older than Borchard. Borchard's last stint wasn't so horrible. He easily could have had 3 or 4 more hits, and his average would have been well over .300. I hope Borchard proves me wrong, but I don't see him doing anything to help this team. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick Allen Posted July 24, 2004 Share Posted July 24, 2004 I hope Borchard proves me wrong, but I don't see him doing anything to help this team. He might not, but he should get the opportunity, unless KW goes and gets a veteran. Olerud is not a good idea in my mind for a couple of reasons. The first being, I don't think he can play anymore, and the second, acquiring him puts Everett back in the outfield. Not only is he even worse than last year out there (if you remember his attempts in LF against the White Sox a month ago) but he has been injured, and going back out in the field my make him aggrevate those injuries. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest JimH Posted July 24, 2004 Share Posted July 24, 2004 Bruce Levine said this morning that KW is going to wait a few days and see what happens. To me, that means he might wait until Wednesday, which is right after three games vs. Minnesota. That gives him 3 days until the deadline to get something done. Guillen stated that Borchard would need to prove he can contribute, and I agree with that sentiment. I bet we will see Borchard in the starting lineup tonight. If there's ever a time for him to start contributing, it is now. I think we'll see Everett in the outfield sporadically, like when Carlos Lee needs a day off. My best guess is KW is pursuing pitching above anything else. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BobDylan Posted July 24, 2004 Author Share Posted July 24, 2004 Bruce Levine said this morning that KW is going to wait a few days and see what happens. To me, that means he might wait until Wednesday, which is right after three games vs. Minnesota. That gives him 3 days until the deadline to get something done. Guillen stated that Borchard would need to prove he can contribute, and I agree with that sentiment. I bet we will see Borchard in the starting lineup tonight. If there's ever a time for him to start contributing, it is now. I think we'll see Everett in the outfield sporadically, like when Carlos Lee needs a day off. My best guess is KW is pursuing pitching above anything else. It'll be interesting to see what KW does, to say the least. I think it's safe to say that the Everett deal is rock solid now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BobDylan Posted July 24, 2004 Author Share Posted July 24, 2004 His veteran leadership has lead the Mariners to one of the worst records in baseball. He is done. The Mariners would rather pay him not to play, so they could look at a minor leaguer 3 years older than Borchard. Borchard's last stint wasn't so horrible. He easily could have had 3 or 4 more hits, and his average would have been well over .300. The Mariners talent sucks, Willie Mays in his prime couldn't lead that team to the promise land. The White Sox at least have players that can get it done, and that's when veteran leadership is important. I mean, what is Olerud going to tell a bunch of washed up veterans? Nothing. His veteran leadership would be GIANT on a team like the White Sox. They have little experience, and Olerud brings a lot to the table in that case. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick Allen Posted July 24, 2004 Share Posted July 24, 2004 The Mariners talent sucks, Willie Mays in his prime couldn't lead that team to the promise land. The White Sox at least have players that can get it done, and that's when veteran leadership is important. I mean, what is Olerud going to tell a bunch of washed up veterans? Nothing. His veteran leadership would be GIANT on a team like the White Sox. They have little experience, and Olerud brings a lot to the table in that case. The Sox core has major experience. Konerko, Lee, Valentin, Everett, Loaisa, Garcia, Buerhle. The Sox don't need any veteran leadership, they have it. One guy who provides said leadership is Mike Jackson, and do you want him on the mound when the game is on the line? The White Sox need guys that can get people out or guys who can drive in big runs. At this stage of the game, Olerud provides neither. He wasn't very good last year either. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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