September 11, 200421 yr let think about it, this season may prove that it is a good time to be a pitcher who is a fa. with a lot of teams looking at improving their rotation, why would any sign with the sox. are we close to being a contender? (randy johnson wish) is kw going to open the jr pocket book to sign one? (only time and wishful thinking) b/c they love the tradition of being on the team?(hahaha) why???
September 11, 200421 yr Dunno why. Different people have different reasons. Maybe they're a close friend of Guillen. Maybe they grew up in Chicago. Not saying anyone would sign here, just saying, there's so many factors it's hard to tell.
September 11, 200421 yr The contract is key. Also, don't forget Chicago is the favorite road city of MLB.
September 12, 200421 yr I'm not sure, but I heard that green paper is a good tool of persuasion. i dont know where you heard that, but it is completely wrong.
September 12, 200421 yr More and more, guys are looking for a good fit, both for themselves in terms of teammates/manager/clubhouse, but also for their wife and kids. If they have kids in school, our suburban schools are as good as any. Most women love Chicago, and they wouldn't have to deal with the rough winters. It usually comes down to the contract, but when these guys already have more money than they know what to do with, other factors come into play.
September 12, 200421 yr Don't forget our usually potent offense can make an average pitcher look pretty good sometimes. Especially if he is a ground ball type pitcher. Who wouldn't enjoy several runs per game of support? PLus a good contract.
September 12, 200421 yr 1) We play in a winnable division. 2) Chicago is a great city to play baseball in.
September 12, 200421 yr The Latin clubhouse could play a big factor, as could Ozzie. He has a lot of friends around the league, and it has already netted us Freddy Garcia. I really get the feeling that we will be in the Pedro sweepstakes.
September 12, 200421 yr The Latin clubhouse could play a big factor, as could Ozzie. He has a lot of friends around the league, and it has already netted us Freddy Garcia. I really get the feeling that we will be in the Pedro sweepstakes. Pedro will get 12 million a year this off season, find it hard to believe they are willing to dish that much out on 1 starter.
September 12, 200421 yr Pedro will get 12 million a year this off season, find it hard to believe they are willing to dish that much out on 1 starter. Well no one thought they would put out $55 million for Albert Belle either.... KW has said he wants a front line starter, and with the axe job that Pedro is getting in Boston, I wouldn't be surprised if the Sox made a solid pitch for him.
September 12, 200421 yr Well no one thought they would put out $55 million for Albert Belle either.... KW has said he wants a front line starter, and with the axe job that Pedro is getting in Boston, I wouldn't be surprised if the Sox made a solid pitch for him. I would much rather go for a starter with a little lesser talent that is 2-4 million dollars less per year. But is capable of putting up excellent numbers. Because we could then you that additional money else where.
September 12, 200421 yr I would much rather go for a starter with a little lesser talent that is 2-4 million dollars less per year. But is capable of putting up excellent numbers. Because we could then you that additional money else where. This team is finally learning that it can score runs without Maggs and Frank. When we get back Frank next year this offense will be fine. If you add Pedro to the mix, the most this team needs to win is better LH power balance in the starters.
September 12, 200421 yr This team is finally learning that it can score runs without Maggs and Frank. When we get back Frank next year this offense will be fine. If you add Pedro to the mix, the most this team needs to win is better LH power balance in the starters. I agree the offense just needs a left handed hitter but i also think they need some bullpen help.
September 12, 200421 yr I agree the offense just needs a left handed hitter but i also think they need some bullpen help. The pen is OK now that Jackson and Koch are gone, as long as they bring back Politte.
September 12, 200421 yr The pen is OK now that Jackson and Koch are gone, as long as they bring back Politte. I am not saying a pen like the yankees, expos, or cardinals. But wouldn't it be nice to have a better than o.k. pen for once?
September 12, 200421 yr I am not saying a pen like the yankees, expos, or cardinals. But wouldn't it be nice to have a better than o.k. pen for once? I really believe with Takatsu and Marte at the end of the pen, added to the year of development for Cotts and Adkins, mixed in with Pollitte and a long man, that we would have a very good bullpen. The majority of teams would be jealous.
September 12, 200421 yr I really believe with Takatsu and Marte at the end of the pen, added to the year of development for Cotts and Adkins, mixed in with Pollitte and a long man, that we would have a very good bullpen. The majority of teams would be jealous. You seem to be one of the few like myself that think politte is very valuable. But anyways quite a bit of relievers in free agency that should be pretty cheap and can possibly solidify the pen for basically nothing. Might be worth a try.
September 12, 200421 yr You seem to be one of the few like myself that think politte is very valuable. But anyways quite a bit of relievers in free agency that should be pretty cheap and can possibly solidify the pen for basically nothing. Might be worth a try. I'm not looking at Cliff to be the closer. For a seventh inning guy he is solid. He isn't making a lot of money in the first place.
September 12, 200421 yr I'm not looking at Cliff to be the closer. For a seventh inning guy he is solid. He isn't making a lot of money in the first place. I agree, outside of a few bad outings he has been great for his role.
September 12, 200421 yr Cliff does seem to be a good pitcher as long as he is not closing or in a tie game in the 9th. In those situations, it seems like his balls get sucked up into his body and he forgets that he is a major league pitcher with some good heat.
September 12, 200421 yr Pedro will get 12 million a year this off season, find it hard to believe they are willing to dish that much out on 1 starter. $12 mill would be stolen. I would almost count on the Yankees offering him ATLEAST $15 mill a year, and possibly more. They need pitching worse then us, and that says something.
September 12, 200421 yr $12 mill would be stolen. I would almost count on the Yankees offering him ATLEAST $15 mill a year, and possibly more. They need pitching worse then us, and that says something. I was just being on the low side. Imo no chance in hell we even get close to signing him. And if we were to go after him why not try to go after two pitchers such as perez and radke or some sort of combination like that.
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