SoxAce Posted September 13, 2004 Share Posted September 13, 2004 I would love Damon. He's a good centerfielder who gets on base and hits for good average (one hellofa hitter) Having him leadoff is going to really help us next season and it makes our lineup way better. He and Rowand can be very useful on getting on ealry and letting Frank etc.. drive em in. I'd get mr. caveman in a heartbeat. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
witesoxfan Posted September 13, 2004 Share Posted September 13, 2004 Damon may not have the OBP you look for in a leadoff hitter, but he is definately a good leadoff hitter, and he could make the lineup just what it should be. Hypothetically...let's say we trade Konerko straight up for Damon. You then put Gload in for PK, and move Rowand to RF. Another thing about the deal...one of Everett and Lee would have to find a new home. I'll take Lee, thanks much. And, just for this...I'll say we sign Koskie for $5 mill on next year's total and that Crede is dealt for prospects/relievers. Damon - CF Rowand - RF Thomas - DH Lee - LF Koskie - 3B Uribe - SS Gload - 1B Davis - C Harris - 2B What I look at when I see this lineup is quite a few solid hitters...the worst hitter average wise I see on the team could end up being Koskie or Davis, and that will be around .250-.260, basically meaning there is no easy out. There is only one guy in the lineup who just flat out won't have pop in his bat, that being Willie, and there's 3 guys in the lineup who can't steal bases, those 3 being Thomas, Gload, and Davis. Maybe I'm the only one who likes the look of that lineup. I hope not. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoxAce Posted September 13, 2004 Share Posted September 13, 2004 Damon - CF Rowand - RF Thomas - DH Lee - LF Koskie - 3B Uribe - SS Gload - 1B Davis - C Harris - 2B Maybe I'm the only one who likes the look of that lineup. I hope not. I like it wite. Don't know about Uribe being an everyday SS. I would like to see us sign a Visquel/Gusman type but I can live with Uribe if Valdez pans out. EDIT: The balance of that lineup is very good FWIW. (L/R lineup) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
witesoxfan Posted September 13, 2004 Share Posted September 13, 2004 I like it, the only thing is when this team goes into a cold spell, which you know it will, those 6-9 hitters could get pretty ugly. Gload Uribe Davis Harris That could get ugly really fast. It could get very ugly(because Uribe will almost undoubtedly have a month or two where he will hit .150-.200 or so and not be able to hit anything), so what needs to be done to counter that is to bring in some very good bench players. If we get lucky, Gload will be a decent for us at 1B...hopefully .270 20 80 .800 or so with good defense. If we're not so lucky, I'd look for .250 12 50 .700. Regardless, having someone who can hit well and plays 1B should be available off the bench. I'm not sure what Greg Colbrunn is doing nowadays, but he'd be a good option to have off the bench. As I said, Uribe will go cold, being the very streaky player that he is. For that reason alone, I'd look for a good utility infielder to have come in and give him some time off and help the team when he does get cold, regardless of what Valdez does(because, quite frankly, Willie could be and probably will be in the same boat as Uribe for a little bit of time). For Davis...we just have to hope he can hit .260 10 50 .750 or so while playing good defense, and hope Burke can have similar results to what has happened this year(not necessarily hitting around .400, but .280 or so would be absolutely perfect). Hell, we don't even know if Rowand will have the same amount of success next year. He may hit a sophomore slump in his second season as a full-time starter, and may not hit .250...we can only hope he doesn't. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
qwerty Posted September 14, 2004 Share Posted September 14, 2004 ......and the fact he makes 6 million for next year. He just hasn't had sucess against AL teams. He sucked in the World Series in 2001 , he sucked in the all-star game in 2002 (Konerko almost took him deep,) and he sucks with Boston. Apparently Boston thought 3 starts was enough to ship his ass to AAA. He had a 3.18 era in the a.l. last year and 3.56 in the n.l. But he can't pitch american league batters well at all. :rolly Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
qwerty Posted September 14, 2004 Share Posted September 14, 2004 Didn't he get hurt and lose velocity? Yes, in one full years time he can ver easily regain his lost velocity. If he doesn't he may just become a better pitcher from it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chisoxfn Posted September 14, 2004 Share Posted September 14, 2004 I'd be all over Kim. I'm still shocked no one has gotten him. BoSox would obviously pay almost all his contract and he's still very young with a live arm and proven sucess. I'd take him as a set up man in a heart beat. I'd of dealt Rauch for him a long time ago (back when the Sox had Rauch) and I bet Boston would of done it in a heartbeat too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CWSGuy406 Posted September 14, 2004 Share Posted September 14, 2004 I'd be all over Kim. I'm still shocked no one has gotten him. BoSox would obviously pay almost all his contract and he's still very young with a live arm and proven sucess. I'd take him as a set up man in a heart beat. I'd of dealt Rauch for him a long time ago (back when the Sox had Rauch) and I bet Boston would of done it in a heartbeat too. That's the only way I want to even come near BK, is if Boston picks up most, if not all of his salary... He's a guy I'd be willing to take a chance on at a minimal price, but at this point, we are absolutely loaded at the long reliever spot. And even if Kim would be a short relief, 6th-7th inning guy, I'd still like to have a hard throwing righty for the eighth-9th. Politte-BYK Marte-...... Shingo That would be nice, with Cotts and Adkins having more opportunities as well... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chisoxfn Posted September 14, 2004 Share Posted September 14, 2004 That's the only way I want to even come near BK, is if Boston picks up most, if not all of his salary... He's a guy I'd be willing to take a chance on at a minimal price, but at this point, we are absolutely loaded at the long reliever spot. And even if Kim would be a short relief, 6th-7th inning guy, I'd still like to have a hard throwing righty for the eighth-9th. Politte-BYK Marte-...... Shingo That would be nice, with Cotts and Adkins having more opportunities as well... Get Cruz in their and I'm down. I'm not too inclined to keep Politte, he was just too streaky, imo. As far as Cruz goes, I think he's on the cusp of really making a name for himself. He's got sick stuff and great numbers at a young age. Damn would I love him on the SouthSide. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CWSGuy406 Posted September 14, 2004 Share Posted September 14, 2004 Get Cruz in their and I'm down. I'm not too inclined to keep Politte, he was just too streaky, imo. As far as Cruz goes, I think he's on the cusp of really making a name for himself. He's got sick stuff and great numbers at a young age. Damn would I love him on the SouthSide. Definitely one of Hendry's worst trades... I remember when that trade went down, I was thinking about how little Atlanta gave up. I was wondering why the hell we didn't take a chance on Cruz. Yeah - Politte, I'm on edge about. I think we're both in agreement that a hard-throwing righty should be added to at least give a switch up between the eighth inning, hard stuff, and then the ninth inning, slow junk. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
qwerty Posted September 14, 2004 Share Posted September 14, 2004 Get Cruz in their and I'm down. I'm not too inclined to keep Politte, he was just too streaky, imo. As far as Cruz goes, I think he's on the cusp of really making a name for himself. He's got sick stuff and great numbers at a young age. Damn would I love him on the SouthSide. Thing with politte is he is great for three weeks the has 3 terrible outing out of his next three. He is perfect for the seventh inning but there is no way in hell he can be are right-handed set-up man next year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redandwhite Posted September 14, 2004 Share Posted September 14, 2004 I'd be all over Kim. I'm still shocked no one has gotten him. BoSox would obviously pay almost all his contract and he's still very young with a live arm and proven sucess. I'd take him as a set up man in a heart beat. I'd of dealt Rauch for him a long time ago (back when the Sox had Rauch) and I bet Boston would of done it in a heartbeat too. No freakin question. BK Kim will be a huge help to some team next season, it's just a matter of who acquires him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beck72 Posted September 14, 2004 Share Posted September 14, 2004 Damon - CF Rowand - RF Thomas - DH Lee - LF Koskie - 3B Uribe - SS Gload - 1B Davis - C Harris - 2B It's doable. What I'd add to that is Vizquel at SS. That would make a lineup a little different: CF Damon SS Vizquel DH Frank LF Lee RF Rowand 3B Koskie 2b Uribe [Harris at #9 vs RHP] 1B Gload c Davis Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LDF Posted September 14, 2004 Share Posted September 14, 2004 It's doable. What I'd add to that is Vizquel at SS. That would make a lineup a little different: CF Damon SS Vizquel DH Frank LF Lee RF Rowand 3B Koskie 2b Uribe [Harris at #9 vs RHP] 1B Gload c Davis if we are dreaming, why not add carlos into the mix as well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beck72 Posted September 14, 2004 Share Posted September 14, 2004 if we are dreaming, why not add carlos into the mix as well. Adding 2 FA's and getting a player via trade [maybe not Damon but another starter is likely] isn't exactly dreaming. It's possible. Vizquel is very likely to come to the Sox if his option isn't picked up [can sign a 2 yr deal for a contender, stays within his division, etc]. The Sox could give Koskie more money than most teams will offer as they've seen what he can do within the division. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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