Big article at the White Sox site about Valentin and his status for 2005. No real new info, but there sure sounds like Jose has been talking out of both sides of his mouth.

 

First, he talks about how he's not gonna give any huge discounts, nor does he want to go year to year. He wants at least a two year deal.

 

Then, in the last part of the article, it's the usual, "it's not about the money".

 

My opinion?

 

No way Jose.

Big article at the White Sox site about Valentin and his status for 2005.  No real new info, but there sure sounds like Jose has been talking out of both sides of his mouth.

 

First, he talks about how he's not gonna give any huge discounts, nor does he want to go year to year.  He wants at least a two year deal.

 

Then, in the last part of the article, it's the usual, "it's not about the money".

 

My opinion?

 

No way Jose.

I wish he would just go away.

Don't let the door hit you on the way out buddy.

So if it's not about the money he should be willing to play for free? He doesn't name a dollar figure, like Magglio essentially did, he just says fair value. And Magglio was not asking for fair value, not even close.

 

And frankly, w/ all the hints, everyone knows he's gone, even him. This is a trial balloon for other teams.

 

He's played well for us, there's no need for the venom. I hope he gets a chance to play and does well.

Fair market value for 36 year old .215 hitters who strikeout once every three times up, and commits numerous blunders in the field is not as high as Jose thinks, I would guarantee you that.

I am pretty sure people know how I feel about this...

 

Don't really have the time to go into it.

A bench player is what I see in his future thats if he joins a crappy team with alot of veterans.

Fair market value for 36 year old .215 hitters who strikeout  once every three times up, and commits numerous blunders in the field is not as high as Jose thinks, I would guarantee you that.

The point is, this is a generic statement that all free agents give. "I want to play for a winner, but I want fair value..." Who hasn't heard that a million times? But when it comes out of Valentin, he's "talking out of both sides of his mouth". This is getting absurd. If he built a children's hospital in the west side of the city, everyone would say he just wants to molest little boys with scabies. Jose is the man who can do no right.

 

Why the animus? The season's over and he'll be gone soon, just let it go.

he'll be gone soon

I agree that what he said is something other free agents-to-be say a lot, but none of us know for sure "he'll be gone soon".

 

I don't wish any ill will on the guy, but he's had a bad year and as a Sox fan, I'm very disappointed in his 4 year downward batting average trend.

 

And when he says he won't take less than two years ... issuing a demand of sorts, well, it's my opinion I hope he gets his two year deal elsewhere.

 

No animosity really, just his time has come and gone here, IMO. What I'm worried about is Sox management wanting to keep him for two more years. If they did, I think that's a huge mistake.

I agree that what he said is something other free agents-to-be say a lot, but none of us know for sure "he'll be gone soon".

 

I don't wish any ill will on the guy, but he's had a bad year and as a Sox fan, I'm very disappointed in his 4 year downward batting average trend.

 

And when he says he won't take less than two years ... issuing a demand of sorts, well, it's my opinion I hope he gets his two year deal elsewhere.

 

No animosity really, just his time has come and gone here, IMO.  What I'm worried about is Sox management wanting to keep him for two more years.  If they did, I think that's a huge mistake.

This makes two articles on the official Sox website about how Jose may not be w/ the team next year. I look at that as the kiss of death. Those articles are always wishy-washy. He's done w/ the Sox.

This makes two articles on the official Sox website about how Jose may not be w/ the team next year.  I look at that as the kiss of death.  Those articles are always wishy-washy.  He's done w/ the Sox.

I hope your intuition is correct , and I agree there's a reason why there might be two similar articles on the topic ... perhaps to "prepare" the fans who identify with Jose?

 

Who knows, we'll have to wait and see.

i like j valentin or is it valentine?

 

but back to the point, i am and was a firm backer of jose, but now it is time for him to go. we can't afford for another yr, stat wise, at ss.

I always liked Jose and still do, but .215 is too low.

He either tanked this year or is losing his skill.

.215 is clayton-like.

He had his shot to prove that he's worth the 5 million this year. He's not going to get a contract like that again. Jose is the weakest link, goodbye.

Fair market value for 36 year old .215 hitters who strikeout  once every three times up, and commits numerous blunders in the field is not as high as Jose thinks, I would guarantee you that.

Ahem.. Jose is not 36

Ahem.. Jose is not 36

Ok, he'll only be 35 1/2 on opening day.

He'll probably end up with a small market team somewhere as a part-time SS, 3B, DH...someplace like Montreal or Tampa Bay. I'm guessing minor league contract or something like 2 yrs/$3.5 mil...with LOTS of performance clauses.