ESPN 1000 just reported the Angels have signed Finley....I guess no Beltran for them eh?

ESPN 1000 just reported the Angels have signed Finley....I guess no Beltran for them eh?

Pavano or Pedro, more than likely ... with the other one ending up in Boston.

I'm terrfied Lee's name will be brought up.

There is no way on God's green earth you could pass of Carlos Lee as a ML RFer. He has worked hard in LF, but the fact remains he still has zero arm. The cut off man still has to get 1/3 of the way in the OF for him to make a solid throw.

I'm terrfied Lee's name will be brought up.

With Geoff Jenkins making about $8 million in 2005, I can't see the Brewers adding another big contract outfielder to their team. Now Everett who only makes $4 mill, they could have some interest in, for the right price.

There is no way on God's green earth you could pass of Carlos Lee as a ML RFer.  He has worked hard in LF, but the fact remains he still has zero arm.  The cut off man still has to get 1/3 of the way in the OF for him to make a solid throw.

Who said anything about Carlos playing RF?

 

 

EDIT: Oh! I see now. I was generally referring to not wanting Lee's name brought up in the winter meetings. Not specifiaclly to the Brewers for RF. Sorry.

Nationals still chasing Perez;

 

The attention now has shifted to Perez, who went 7-6 with a 3.25 ERA in 31 starts last season and was offered salary arbitration this week by the Dodgers. The Nationals, though, may not be able to afford a pitcher who based on this week's other signings is likely to command at least $6 million a year.

    "We are pursuing Odalis Perez," Bowden said. "Whether or not we'll be able to afford him or get him to want to come to Washington, that's what we're working on."

I'm terrfied Lee's name will be brought up.

I wouldn't be at all. Lee could bring an impact player [or a few good players] in return. PK probably will only bring a good player at best.

Bowden is like floating above the radar like Kid Icharus on this one. I remember the good old days when someone else was like that.....

With Geoff Jenkins making about $8 million in 2005, I can't see the Brewers adding another big contract outfielder to their team. Now Everett who only makes $4 mill, they could have some interest in, for the right price.

Everett could be more tradeable then most people around here think. His $4 mill contract isn't that bad compared to what other guys want. Put a young arm or a prospect in a deal w/ Carl, and a lower market team has a big bat and a cheap player who can fill a spot on their 25 man roster.

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CBS-4 in Boston is reporting that Pedro Martinez and the Red Sox will finalize a three-year, $40 million contract within the next 24-48 hours.

It's still a rumor at this point, but ESPN's Peter Gammons is also reporting that the deal is close. Dec. 9 - 11:38 pm et

Supposedly they are rumored to be offering him some sick incentives (private plane, separate road accomidations..).

 

The Sox definitely can't come close to a deal like that..

I've heard that Pavano cancelled the meeting with the Angels.

He did.

My dad mentioned to me that the Angels are sleepers in the whole thing.  I guess if Pavano goes elsewhere they will quickly enter the fray. 

 

Not sure how valid it is, cause despite other reports from what I heard Pavano would love to play in Anaheim and the feelings are mutual (ie the Angels are gonna make a very lucrative offer when they meet).

If anyone is the "sleeper" in the Pavano race.. it's Baltimore.

If anyone is the "sleeper" in the Pavano race.. it's Baltimore. 

That doesn't suprise me. It looks like now since they'll miss out on Hudson, who's most likely headed to the Braves, that they'll go after Pavano, since they are also not negotiating with Bora$$ clients as well I believe, which puts them out of the race for Maggs.

Angels to sign Finley to two-year deal

From Ben Maller

 

"Braves general manager John Schuerholz might need to trade centerfielder Andruw Jones, shortstop Rafael Furcal or second baseman Marcus Giles to make ends meet" [The link was from philly.com but I couldn't get it]

 

Could ATL be a trading partner? Furcal or Marcus Giles would be nice [though don't know how much Giles will make]. They need a SP, Garland. They'd love to get rid of Jones and his contract

I would love for the Sox to get Furcal...don't know if they'd even be willing to trade him though....

From Ben Maller

 

"Braves general manager John Schuerholz might need to trade centerfielder Andruw Jones, shortstop Rafael Furcal or second baseman Marcus Giles to make ends meet" [The link was from philly.com but I couldn't get it]

 

Could ATL be a trading partner? Furcal or Marcus Giles would be nice [though don't know how much Giles will make]. They need a SP, Garland. They'd love to get rid of Jones and his contract

Giles is arbitration eligble and speculated to make $2 million in 05. I just read this somewhere this morning while reading about a possible A's/Braves trade involving Hudson. Don't ask me for the link, as I read a lot of articles. LOL

Giles is arbitration eligble and speculated to make $2 million in 05.  I just read this somewhere this morning while reading about a possible A's/Braves trade involving Hudson.  Don't ask me for the link, as I read a lot of articles. LOL

I'll take a ballpark figure anyday, thanks.

 

Giles' contract doesn't seem like a big deal. Though the A's would love that salary. I heard about Hudson for Giles and a top ATL pitching prospect. ATL needs SP's. Maybe Garland? He sounds exactly like a Leo Mazzone special for a decent price. Giles avg and OBP for the top of the lineup would be nice

Beane wants a young starting pitcher and a two-bagger.

 

He went on record with that. Sorry, I don't have a link.

 

If your Beane, do you want Giles and a top-prospect from the Bravos.

 

Or...

 

Do you want Jon Garland and Harris/some other IF prospect.

 

Its really going to come down to who he likes more. Contracts seem to be a wash.

Beane wants a young starting pitcher and a two-bagger.

 

He went on record with that.  Sorry, I don't have a link.

 

If your Beane, do you want Giles and a top-prospect from the Bravos.

 

Or...

 

Do you want Jon Garland and Harris/some other IF prospect.

 

Its really going to come down to who he likes more.  Contracts seem to be a wash.

STL also was involved w/ the A's. A pitcher like Marquis or Haren, and a prospect a few yrs away--Daric Barton?--an OBP machine.

the national ESPN radio update is saying Finley to Angels is all but done 2 years about 15-16m

 

 

Adding to that either Stark or Gammons is saying the Yankees may go crazy to sign Beltran (maybe why the Angels shyed away) to make up for the Giambi fallout. Also said Astros will go far to resign him and the Orioles could be a quiet team. I know Stark said the Cubs can't think about Beltran unless Sammy is moved

According to the Toronto Sun, the Jays will look at Tony Clark as a potential replacement for Carlos Delgado.

Ewww. Dec. 10 - 5:13 am et From rotoworld.

 

Lmfao.

the national ESPN radio update is saying Finley to Angels is all but done 2 years about 15-16m

 

 

Adding to that either Stark or Gammons is saying the Yankees may go crazy to sign Beltran (maybe why the Angels shyed away) to make up for the Giambi fallout.  Also said Astros will go far to resign him and the Orioles could be a quiet team.  I know Stark said the Cubs can't think about Beltran unless Sammy is moved

Ya, I also heard it could be as much as 20 million. This is not a move that excites me. 10 mill a year is too much for Finley. His average and strikeouts aren't something to brag about.

 

As an Angel fan I think they are going the wrong direction yet again. They should be focusing on pitching and a middle infielder/Beltran.

ouch, that would hurt if I was a Blue Jay fan

I would love for the Sox to get Furcal...don't know if they'd even be willing to trade him though....

Start at Lee and the Braves just don't have the pitcher to offer along with Furcal, imo.