24-9 Okla

I killed that avy. If you can get it without the audio, cool. If not, ditch it.

OU leads Kansas 37-22 at half

47-46 OU now w/ 9 minutes left...

Utah down to New Mexico 46-38 with 7:43 left..... not good.

Thats why I keep the sound off on my comp...

 

I'll try to take off the sound.

Kansas loses three in a row

Kansas loses their 3rd straight Big 12 game, 71-63. This moves Oklahoma State into first in the Big 12.

poor bill self

We need a choke emoticon

OOOOK, I was going to remove my avatar all together because sound won't stop, and apparently someone else did it for me. Thats kind of scary.

OOOOK, I was going to remove my avatar all together because sound won't stop, and apparently someone else did it for me. Thats kind of scary.

 

^read up

read up

 

Yeah just saw that. I think its better now. Tell me if its not.

OOOOK, I was going to remove my avatar all together because sound won't stop, and apparently someone else did it for me. Thats kind of scary.

 

Just because you keep the sound off on your computer doesn't mean the rest of soxtalk should have to.

 

It was rightly removed by SS2k5.

Man, i miss Bill Self so much i'm almost to tears....

Just because you keep the sound off on your computer doesn't mean the rest of soxtalk should have to.

 

Did I say they should? Nope. I was explaining why it was there in the first place, I didn't know any sound was with it, none showed up on the Flash.

 

I apologize to everyone for the annoyance.

Edited February 22, 200521 yr by Palehosefan

Did I say they should? Nope. I was explaining why it was there in the first place, I didn't know any sound was with it, none showed up on the Flash.

Well, that thing should be removed anyways, probably the worst avatar there has ever been at soxtalk.

Well, that thing should be removed anyways, probably the worst avatar there has ever been at soxtalk.

 

lol, :headshake

I've got some questions.

 

For Indiana fans, what do you guys think you have to do to get into the tourney sitting at 12-11 with 4 games left and the Big Ten tourney? Do you think you have to win out and win 2 games in the tourney? Would 3 of 4 wins to end the year and 2 wins in the Big Ten tourney be enough? Is there much hope for Mike Davis with no tourney?

 

For Illinois fans, are you guys nervous at all about playing at Ohio State to end the season or are you comfortable that you will be undeafeated until the Big Ten tourney atleast?

 

For Heads or GHC, does ISU have an affinity for "playground" players like Curtis Stinson and Jamal Tinsley? Do they actually recruit at Rucker park? I think its pretty cool when you can find flashy talent like that that can also get it done enough in the classroom.

For Illinois fans, are you guys nervous at all about playing at Ohio State to end the season or are you comfortable that you will be undeafeated until the Big Ten tourney atleast?

 

A little bit, but it can't be any tougher than playing at Kohl or Breslin. The only thing that makes me a little nervous is that this is basically Ohio State's national title game. This is their opportunity to make their mark, but realistically, if Illinois plays well they win.

For Indiana fans, what do you guys think you have to do to get into the tourney sitting at 12-11 with 4 games left and the Big Ten tourney? Do you think you have to win out and win 2 games in the tourney? Would 3 of 4 wins to end the year and 2 wins in the Big Ten tourney be enough? Is there much hope for Mike Davis with no tourney?

 

I'm thinking we can win our final 3 home games, and that would put us at 15-12 going into the BTT. I'm hoping we can get 2 wins there. Hopefully that's enough. Alabama had a 16-13 record? going into the tourney last year. We'll see. I still think Davis deserves next year with the Auburn transfers.

A little bit, but it can't be any tougher than playing at Kohl or Breslin.  The only thing that makes me a little nervous is that this is basically Ohio State's national title game.  This is their opportunity to make their mark, but realistically, if Illinois plays well they win.

 

most illini fans are worried about ohio state.

they always play us tought and as wsf said, this is their championship game.

Hopefully i'll be there too

For Heads or GHC, does ISU have an affinity for "playground" players like Curtis Stinson and Jamal Tinsley? Do they actually recruit at Rucker park? I think its pretty cool when you can find flashy talent like that that can also get it done enough in the classroom.

 

The thing is Coach Morgan was orignially an assitant as Syracuse under Boeheim. Morgan's roots are on the east coast and targets prep schools. Just in case anyone wondered, the only other school that was recruiting Stinson with really any determination was Drexel. However, being in the middle of Iowa, there's always some farm boy we bring in that ends up doing well. Fred Hoiberg, Jared Homan, the next guy from Ames is Ross Marsden.

 

I think possibly the most impressive aspect is despite recent attrition they seem like a big family. Eustachy had a VERY HIGH rate of players leaving, but it seems that the guys that Morgan has went after himself have been pretty successful. Sure one guy was kicked off, another is ineligible and a final player is hurt, but the group seems cohesive. Blalock's mom moved to Ames from Boston. I think the fact that Morgan is starting to coach his own recruits will fit in much better than it did earlier this season, with two four-star recruits in Shawn Taggart and Kellen Lee coming in.

 

I was calling for Morgan's head earlier this year, but now I think we'll stick with him for a while.

http://sports.espn.go.com/ncb/news/story?id=1996840

 

Rivalry remembered as Keady makes final trip

Associated Press

 

BLOOMINGTON, Ind. -- Those closest to Steve Reid know him as president of a trucking company, a former teammate, and a dad.

 

Some even remember him as a color commentator on Purdue basketball broadcasts.

 

However, most others know Reid as the answer to a trivia question.

 

Knight throws a chair across the floor during Indiana's 1985 loss to Purdue.

 

For 20 years, his life has been defined by one enduring image -- Bob Knight hurling a red, plastic chair across the basketball court as the 5-foot-9 Reid stood at the free throw line for Purdue.

 

"There are times I walk into a meeting or a friend calls to say 'I saw you on TV last night,' " he said from his Georgia home. "I know what they're talking about."

 

Like other famous trivia answers, Wally Pipp, Mookie Wilson and Al Downing, Reid's name will forever be linked to the question: "Who was the guy?"

 

The chair toss also remains a defining moment in the Indiana-Purdue rivalry. The teams will meet up again Tuesday, one day short of the 20th anniversary of Knight's throw.

 

Purdue coach Gene Keady is the last remaining major link to the outburst and he will be coaching his final game at Assembly Hall.

 

Two decades ago, Keady walked into the postgame news conference after a 72-63 win and insisted the important thing was that Purdue won.

 

He was wrong.

 

In Reid's mind, the red speck he noticed out of the corner of his eye never faded. Nor did the ensuing collapse -- he missed 3 of 6 free throws as Knight was tossed from the game and was promptly scolded on the sideline by Keady.

 

Knight, fired by Indiana in 2000, didn't return phone messages left for him by The Associated Press at Texas Tech where he now coaches.

 

He's coped with it, though, by poking fun at himself over the years. During speeches, Knight sometimes recounts a tale of spotting an old woman behind the basket who needed a chair, so he tossed one to her.

 

In 2002 at a news conference, Knight found another way to joke about it after tossing aside a broken metal chair.

 

"That's the furthest I've thrown a chair in a long time," he said.

 

To Iowa coach Steve Alford, who was then playing for Knight, the chair throwing was symbolic of a season gone awry. Indiana went 16-13 that year and lost to UCLA in the NIT championship, far below the lofty expectations of a coach who by then had won two NCAA titles and the 1984 Olympic gold medal.

 

"It was not one of our better years, whether it was throwing a chair or not playing well as a team or whatever," Alford said. "It was a technical foul and we moved on."

 

For Purdue players, it wasn't that simple. Assembly Hall quickly degenerated from a hostile environment into a dangerous one.

 

Several Boilermakers still recall the standing ovation Knight received, and then the coin-tossing began. Keady's wife was hit in the eye.

 

"I figured they must have thought if the coach can throw a chair, they can throw a penny," Reid said.

 

When play finally resumed, some Purdue players feared for their safety.

 

Troy Lewis, then a Boilermakers freshman, said the fans were so loud it was scary. Another freshman, Everette Stephens, said he was fearful of even playing.

 

"I was so nervous and so scared because it was so piercing loud," he said. "That was the loudest crowd I had ever been around."

 

What ignited the outburst was a scramble for a loose ball at midcourt. Indiana's Daryl Thomas drew his second foul five minutes into the game when Knight insisted it should have been a jump ball. Knight was called for a technical, but before Reid shot the free throws, Knight grabbed a chair with two hands and flung it toward the basket.

 

Knight apologized the next day and Big Ten officials gave him a one-game suspension.

 

Chuck Crabb, Indiana's longtime public address announcer, had the unenviable job of telling the raucous crowd that Knight had been ejected.

 

In the 20 years, since, Crabb said he has never seen a crowd at Assembly Hall react quite the same way.

 

"Our crowd, in the next few minutes after that, was a very ugly crowd," Crabb said. "Everything was a boo."

 

The ramifications are still evident.

 

Bench seats are frequently chained together in basketball venues now. At Indiana, the courtside trash cans are also locked down.

 

Crabb can occasionally be heard scolding fans when he believes they are getting out of line, and even Knight was known to grab the microphone periodically.

 

But two decades later, Reid said he still has not spoken to Knight. The only correspondence came through an e-mail that Reid sent after reading "Knight: My Story."

 

In the note, Reid said he enjoyed hearing the other side of the story and agreed the call should have been a jump ball, not a foul.

 

Reid said that Knight sent an appreciative reply.

 

Now, when Reid watches the tape with his four children, they don't talk about the chair but give their father and coach grief about his turnovers and missed free throws.

 

Everyone else wants to know about his scrape with infamy.

 

"A lot of times when I get introduced somewhere, that story comes up and people say 'Are you serious, that was in basketball?"' he said. "I didn't like it the first few years, but now I wear it with pride."

OSU scares me quite a bit.

They are dubbing that game their national title.

 

But there's no way we will have a let down with the possibility of a perfect regular season.

Edited February 22, 200521 yr by WHarris1