December 8, 200421 yr Ken Rosenthal was on sporting news radio yesterday and reported that the Sox and Pitt are talking about Jon Garland and several high prospects including B Anderson& R Sweeney for Craig Wilson&Oliver Perez. Has this been reported in Chicago as well..
December 8, 200421 yr Okay, Wilson and Perez definitely fill some needs. But how do people feel about that? Sweeney and Anderson?!
December 8, 200421 yr First of all welcome to SoxTalk, I'll edit the topic title so that people don't get the impression that a trade has actually happened. Secondly, I can't see the Pirates dealing Perez under any circumstances. And KW would be crazy to trade his 2 uber outfield prospects when he already traded Reed in the Garcia to Seattle deal. I've have mentioned Craig Wilson as a guy to possibly target if we do deal Konerko however though.
December 8, 200421 yr we gave up Reed. We can't trade our next best left-handed bat in Sweeney. I'm not sure Anderson is going to be a stud in the big leagues. But Sweeney definitely seems to have a larger upside. give them Anderson and Rogowski.
December 8, 200421 yr Author I believe O Perez is a free agent after the 06 season so many the Pirates are thinking of rebuilding with 2 great prospects such as Anderson and Sweeney. Since they probably wont have the money to resign Perez
December 8, 200421 yr When minor league coach says were not going trade anderson I have tend to believe him. But if it happeeneds I will take back all of this.
December 8, 200421 yr Why do we want another big slow RH power hitter? EDIT: The more I think about this trade, the less I like it. Perez is very impressive, but I think the price is too high. 2nd EDIT: This is from Perez' ESPN scouting report. and some scouts fear his violent delivery will lead to arm problems.
December 8, 200421 yr Okay, Wilson and Perez definitely fill some needs. But how do people feel about that? Sweeney and Anderson?! I say Sweeney and Anderson are just prospects and Wilson and Perez are good solid young players that have played on the ML level with success. I like it. Perez is a stud.
December 8, 200421 yr If happeends great. But nothing like that will happened. I can wish on a star for that. All I can say is I hope we do something by the weekend
December 8, 200421 yr Why not get the other O. Perez in Odalis, he posted similar numbers as Oliver did this year two years ago. He would come relatively cheap and we wouldn't have to trade our top two prospects.
December 8, 200421 yr Okay, Wilson and Perez definitely fill some needs. But how do people feel about that? Sweeney and Anderson?! But don't forget the Sox have the mighty Joe Borchard waiting in the wings. That's supposed to be sarcastic, I just don't know how to do that here yet. Bob
December 8, 200421 yr But don't forget the Sox have the mighty Joe Borchard waiting in the wings. That's supposed to be sarcastic, I just don't know how to do that here yet. Bob Ha I definitely laughed at that. Welcome to the boards, and sarcasm is in green.
December 8, 200421 yr Rick Hahn said that B-Mac isn't going anywhere. I was just reading this thread and was thinking exactly that. This smells like trolling.
December 8, 200421 yr I wouldn't mind the deal either. We get the best young pitcher in baseball with the best stuff in baseball as well as a power hitter who can play 1st for us. So what the we give those two up, how many of prospects work out for us anyway. Garland needs new scenery as well. The we could trade Konerko away for either some more pitching or some prospects.
December 8, 200421 yr Craig Wilson's 2004 Stats: G AB R 2B 3B HR RBI BB SO SB CS BA OBP SLG OPS 155 561 97 35 5 29 82 50 169 2 2 .264 .354 .499 .853 He struck out 169 times, holy s***, I thought we were going in the other direction. Not adding more strikeouts to this line up. Edit: However Oliver Perez is an absolute stud 10.97 K/9, that's sick.
December 8, 200421 yr Ken Rosenthal was on sporting news radio yesterday and reported that the Sox and Pitt are talking about Jon Garland and several high prospects including B Anderson& R Sweeney for Craig Wilson&Oliver Perez. Has this been reported in Chicago as well.. Damn Oliver Perez is Nasty. I would love to get him. But don't wanna give up Anderson or Sweenney so they can keep him
December 8, 200421 yr Damn Oliver Perez is Nasty. I would love to get him. But don't wanna give up Anderson or Sweenney so they can keep him Are you kidding me? I'd trade both Anderson and Sweeney for Perez. I've been assuming that this trade was wishful thinking though.
December 8, 200421 yr EDIT: The more I think about this trade, the less I like it. Perez is very impressive, but I think the price is too high. :rolly What too high? KW overpaying for talent.. Never :rolly
December 8, 200421 yr I think the Pirates would accept this deal, but I wouldn't want Wilson. Plus Perez has great stuff but he's not what you would call proven yet. If the Sox went out and made other moves though, then I could see this type of deal making sense.
December 8, 200421 yr This is a tough deal where you get a lot but give up a lot. We would still need a fifth starter, and we'd only have B-Mac as potential trade bait in July. This is a dangerous trade. BTW, I would argue Jake Peavy is better than Perez but that's just one man's opinion as it doesn't detract from how good Perez is.
December 8, 200421 yr This is a tough deal where you get a lot but give up a lot. We would still need a fifth starter, and we'd only have B-Mac as potential trade bait in July. This is a dangerous trade. BTW, I would argue Jake Peavy is better than Perez but that's just one man's opinion as it doesn't detract from how good Perez is. Hell I would want them both if we could get them, but giving up all that Talent for 2 players who are OK.. No thanks I would rather trade Those players to San Deigo and see if we can get Peavy and Klesko, then it would be worth it. EDIT: Trade Pauly and Diaz to Pittsburgh.. Get Perez and Wilson Trade Garland, Anderson and Sweeney to San Deigo for Peavy and Klesko IMO, we be getting to sweet of deals,and will never happen.. But a man can dream the good dream, of aquiring players that help a team win...Wait KW is the GM.. never mind
December 8, 200421 yr I know Sutcliffe does soem work in the front office there and said he wouldn't trade Jake Peavy for ANY player in baseball. They do want to get rid of Klesko quite badly. I think with them trying to contend that it's just not a fit. The more I think about it, the more I like the idea of just uisng Schoensuck and then winnign the Ben Sheets sweepstakes in June
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