Mr. Showtime Posted December 15, 2004 Share Posted December 15, 2004 RJ Then again, if you want a real shocker, try to imagine Randy Johnson pitching in a Chicago White Sox uniform next season. The White Sox, who dealt power-hitting outfielder Carlos Lee to the Brewers for center fielder Scott Podsednik, reliever Luis Vizcaino and a player to be named, now are focusing their attention on Johnson. Johnson's agents privately told the White Sox last week that he would accept a trade to the White Sox, sources close to the negotiations told Sports Weekly. Now, all that's left is for the White Sox to actually pull off a deal with the Diamondbacks, and their stiffest competition is the mighty Yankees, who have already signed free-agent pitchers Carl Pavano and Jaret Wright. The Diamondbacks, according to a high-ranking executive, are asking the White Sox for starter Jon Garland, a starting outfielder, minor league outfielder Ryan Sweeney, reliever Damaso Marte and perhaps another prospect. The White Sox, after saving nearly $6 million in their deal with the Brewers, are cautiously optimistic they can pull off the impossible and bring in Johnson. Johnson's preference is to be traded to the Yankees, but New York won't meet the Diamondbacks' asking price of starter Javier Vazquez, setup man Tom Gordon, at least three prospects, and $19.5 million. Yet, the Yankees still haven't given up their pursuit, according to sources, with owner George Steinbrenner personally involved in the negotiations. The White Sox haven't won a World Series since 1917, but they could be considered a strong contender now that they have a genuine basestealing threat at the top of the lineup. They also play in a much weaker division than the Yankees, where Johnson could dominate. On a personal note, Johnson is next-door neighbors with White Sox owner Jerry Reinsdorf in Paradise Valley, Ariz. The White Sox, abandoning the softball approach of trying to outslug everyone, are emphasizing pitching and defense. Time will tell, but if the big guy makes his way to Chicago, the White Sox just might find themselves giving the Minnesota Twins all they can handle in the AL Central. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted December 15, 2004 Share Posted December 15, 2004 Dear lord, please don't give up that much for Randy Johnson! If KW did this, he would be basically giving up on the future of this organization for what would likely be an ill-fated run at the pennant. RJ doesn't make this current squad the instant favorite to win the AL. That's the only way you could justify a trade like this. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CubKilla Posted December 15, 2004 Share Posted December 15, 2004 I want Johnson just as much as anyone but if it's going to cost Garland, Rowand/Podsednik/Dye, Sweeney, Marte, and a PTBNL, KW better tell Arizona to go pound sand up their ass. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Palehosefan Posted December 15, 2004 Share Posted December 15, 2004 LMAO, The Diamondbacks, according to a high-ranking executive, are asking the White Sox for starter Jon Garland, a starting outfielder, minor league outfielder Ryan Sweeney, reliever Damaso Marte and perhaps another prospect. Dream a little dream with me Arizona. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sox1422 Posted December 15, 2004 Share Posted December 15, 2004 That is a ridiculous asking price for RJ. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gene Honda Civic Posted December 15, 2004 Share Posted December 15, 2004 The White Sox haven't won a World Series since 1917, but they could be considered a strong contender now that they have a genuine basestealing threat at the top of the lineup. What's this guy smokin'? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LosMediasBlancas Posted December 15, 2004 Share Posted December 15, 2004 OMG, I hope not. I hope Randy is smart enough to see that if this deal went through, we would so depleted in other areas, that he'd be lucky to see 2nd place. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thomsonmi Posted December 15, 2004 Share Posted December 15, 2004 I want Johnson just as much as anyone but if it's going to cost Garland, Rowand/Podsednik/Dye, Sweeney, Marte, and a PTBNL, KW better tell Arizona to go pound sand up their ass. I have to agree. This is ridiculous. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoxFan562004 Posted December 15, 2004 Share Posted December 15, 2004 Whether I agree with this move or not, I see KW doing this move, or something similar... so be prepared Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EvilJester99 Posted December 15, 2004 Share Posted December 15, 2004 Arizona still smokin that huka like Cheech and Chong...f***ing wake up. If KW is that stupid I don't care he gets RJ he needs to be run outta town quick.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WSFAN35 Posted December 15, 2004 Share Posted December 15, 2004 Let's say that the starting outfielder could be Everett. Garland, Everett, Marte, Sweeney, and a PTBNL. You could sign Wilson Alvarez to be the fifth starter and you would have a pitching staff like this: Johnson Garcia Buerhle Contreras Alvarez Takatsu Vizcaino Hermanson Politte Cotts Adkins The addition of Vizcaino allows you to trade Marte because he's dominant against lefties. Timo Perez would allow Everett to go. Alvarez replaces Garland. Sweeney might never even play in the majors. This deal brings one of the most dominant pitchers in the MLB and makes arguably the best 1-2-3 punch in the league. If KW gets this deal, he needs to pull the trigger!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soxbadger Posted December 15, 2004 Share Posted December 15, 2004 A few things: First, it confirms that RJ and Reinsdorf have a personal relationship that may be part of the reason the Sox have thought hed waive his no trade clause. I had heard that RJ's kids trick or treat at Reinsdorf's house in Az, so who knows. Second, can Carl Everett count as a starting of? Because if he can, that solves so many of our problems. Gload can play 1b, Konerko DH, and the deal is not so bad, cause otherwise wed have to include Pods or Rowand, which just makes no sense. And if they want Marte, the offer is: Garland, Everett, Marte. If they really pressed, add Diaz or Munoz. SB Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shagar69 Posted December 15, 2004 Share Posted December 15, 2004 LMFAO!!!!!! is arizona kidding? so they want what, a garland, a rowand, our best reliever, marte, our best offensive prospect sweeney, and another prospect, lets say a lumdsen or tracey. that is complete BULLs***. no way in f***in hell they get that s***. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thomsonmi Posted December 15, 2004 Share Posted December 15, 2004 Let's say that the starting outfielder could be Everett. That would dramatically change my opinion. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boxer83080 Posted December 15, 2004 Share Posted December 15, 2004 That's tough...I wonder if they would take Carl Everett if proven healthy...Marte is the tough part of this deal...we wouldn't have a left handed relief pitcher for the late innings.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soxbadger Posted December 15, 2004 Share Posted December 15, 2004 They said starting OF. Everett would start for Arizona, and makes only 4mil. SB Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted December 15, 2004 Share Posted December 15, 2004 I want Johnson just as much as anyone but if it's going to cost Garland, Rowand/Podsednik/Dye, Sweeney, Marte, and a PTBNL, KW better tell Arizona to go pound sand up their ass. Well at least they dropped asking for MB or Garcia? :rolly Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WSFAN35 Posted December 15, 2004 Share Posted December 15, 2004 I don't think Arizona is assuming that they would receive Dye or Podzilla since they have just recently been acquired. Rowand is untouchable, Everett would have to be the starting outfielder, and I do believe he qualifies as one. This deal would put us over the top. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Showtime Posted December 15, 2004 Author Share Posted December 15, 2004 Regardless of what the deal would be, if we have Johnson and still lose out to Minnesota, fold the team. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Showtime Posted December 15, 2004 Author Share Posted December 15, 2004 Well at least they dropped asking for MB or Garcia? :rolly Maybe I'll get to do the banner after all SS. Start holding you're breathe again... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LosMediasBlancas Posted December 15, 2004 Share Posted December 15, 2004 I have to admit, if I'm Az. and I have Johnson, you better believe I'm gonna try to rip soemone off. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WSFAN35 Posted December 15, 2004 Share Posted December 15, 2004 Regardless of what the deal would be, if we have Johnson and still lose out to Minnesota, fold the team. Won't happen. This team, with RJ will dominate the central, I don't care what kind of offenses the Tigers and the Indians and the Twins have, good pitching always beats good hitting, (see 2004 world series). Try and find a 1-2-3 that's better than RJ, Garcia, Buerhle. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted December 15, 2004 Share Posted December 15, 2004 Maybe I'll get to do the banner after all SS. Start holding you're breathe again... Damn, and I just got past that funky shade of purple Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boxer83080 Posted December 15, 2004 Share Posted December 15, 2004 Lets say we land Johnson..would we have any chance to sign him for 2 seasons? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Palehosefan Posted December 15, 2004 Share Posted December 15, 2004 You can't blame Arizona for trying. Ask for the world and then settle for what you really wanted. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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