December 16, 200421 yr I hate to knock a guy after he's dead, but, I never really saw the talent. He always looked and sounded like a guy on drugs.
December 16, 200421 yr In related news, who cares. I don't wish death on anyone, but this guy was far from an outstanding citizen. Clearly a druggie, who when given the chance at fame and money, still continued to lead his life down the wrong road.
December 16, 200421 yr I dunno, I kind of liked some of the Wu-Tang stuff when it came out. At any rate, RIP to OBD who is SOL bacause the CME said he was DOA from an OD.
December 16, 200421 yr drugs dont make you a bad person! its the people that do stupid s*** that make you a bad person.
December 16, 200421 yr drugs dont make you a bad person! its the people that do stupid s*** that make you a bad person. More often it's the people that do stupid s*** that make you do drugs. Edited December 16, 200421 yr by FlaSoxxJim
December 16, 200421 yr More often it's the people that do stupid s*** that make you do drugs. Simply put.. stupid people do drugs.
December 16, 200421 yr Simply put.. stupid people do drugs. I assume we are talking about harmful recreational pharmaceuticals, aka mother's little helpers, and not the kind the Doctor prescribes
December 17, 200421 yr Simply put.. stupid people do drugs. drug use has nothing to do with intelligence. drug use has everything to do with responsibility.
December 17, 200421 yr drug use has nothing to do with intelligence. drug use has everything to do with responsibility. Or self control, pain avoidance, and responsibility.
December 17, 200421 yr drug use has nothing to do with intelligence. drug use has everything to do with responsibility. Yea.. it's real responsible to use an illegal substance. Real responsible to alter your state of mind. Real responsible to deliberately destroy your body. Sounds real intelligent to me.. :rolly
December 17, 200421 yr Yea.. it's real responsible to use an illegal substance. Real responsible to alter your state of mind. Real responsible to deliberately destroy your body. Sounds real intelligent to me.. :rolly I think that's what he means. That it's irresponsible, both socially and personally...
December 17, 200421 yr I think that's what he means. That it's irresponsible, both socially and personally... I was elaborating further. Sounded like I was being a smart ass to him didn't it..? My apologies.. I wasn't meaning to be.
December 17, 200421 yr Yea.. it's real responsible to use an illegal substance. Real responsible to alter your state of mind. Real responsible to deliberately destroy your body. Sounds real intelligent to me.. :rolly I think one's perception of the drug culture has quite a bit to do with one's exposure to the drug culture. Most individuals are comletely ignorant on the subject, basing their opinions on either news stories or limited acquaintances. There are plenty of successful, responsible, extremely intelligent people who see no harm in recreational drug use. The failures are those who lack the self-control, responsibility, and intelligence to keep a good time to nothing more than recreation. Steff, just from reading these boards for awhile I know that you drink, as do most on this board. What's the difference between taking ecstasy once a month and getting drunk once a month? They both result in a desired "altered" state of mind and both present health risks when consumed REGULARLY and in large quantities. There is no difference between the two except in the public perception and our wonderful government's opinion. Speaking from experience, some of the brightest people I have ever met, as well as some the most intriguing conversations I've ever had a part in, took place with someone high on those evil drugs. These were people with successful careers whose co-workers had no idea how they spent their time. I'm not trying to trumpet drugs as a good thing, there's no doubt that they present danger to those who are irresponsible in their use. ODB would fall into this category. I would argue that sweeping generalizations like "drug users are unintelligent", especially when they may include people who you had no idea you were including, have no place in any discussion concerning drugs. BTW, I don't do drugs anymore, but learned quite a bit about the culture firsthand throughout my involvement.
December 17, 200421 yr More often it's the people that do stupid s*** that make you do drugs. That's a kickass avatar Jim.
December 17, 200421 yr I'm not trying to trumpet drugs as a good thing, there's no doubt that they present danger to those who are irresponsible in their use. ODB would fall into this category. I would argue that sweeping generalizations like "drug users are unintelligent", especially when they may include people who you had no idea you were including, have no place in any discussion concerning drugs. Stupid people do drugs. Stupid people destroy their bodies. I partake in drinking alcohol.. therefor.. I am stupid sometimes. JMO.
December 17, 200421 yr What's the difference between taking ecstasy once a month and getting drunk once a month? Alcohol is manufactured under controlled circumstances, you know what you are getting. Not so with illegal drugs. Alcohol use by itself will not cause you to be arrested, tried, and possibly convicted of a crime. Thus negatively impacting your ability to be hired in certain jobs. Alcohol can be purchased at the local convienence store, much safer than most drug deals. Just a couple differences off the top of my head.
December 17, 200421 yr I love my beer. I don't do any illegal drugs. I've smoked pot 3 times in my life. I'm 34. I fully believe that alcohol is MUCH more dangerous than pot is, and that pot should be legal, and alcohol should be reagulated MUCH more than it is. I live in a life of contradiction, but pot is illegal, so I won't touch it. ODB? Ach, whatever. I hate Rap with a passion, but if he was a nice guy, I have sympathy for his demons. If he was an ass, I have none for him, but plenty for the ones that loved him, as I am sure there were some.
December 17, 200421 yr I love my beer. I don't do any illegal drugs. I've smoked pot 3 times in my life. I'm 34. I fully believe that alcohol is MUCH more dangerous than pot is, and that pot should be legal, and alcohol should be reagulated MUCH more than it is. I live in a life of contradiction, but pot is illegal, so I won't touch it. Actually, pot (if not driving, just sitting at home smoking) is LESS dangerous than alcohol. Can't OD and die from it because it doesn't affect those parts of the brain. Completely non-lethal... Sorry, I just wanted to beat LCR to it....
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