AnthraxFan93 Posted January 28, 2005 Share Posted January 28, 2005 you are very correct about that, they are much more injury prone, and Paulie has been a consistent player whilest they have been out for periods of time. I think he is more valuable than them <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Yep 2nd half of 02 and 2003 sure proved that Give me Delgado any day of the week over paulie, Paulie is so slow he got throw out on a walk! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rangercal Posted January 28, 2005 Share Posted January 28, 2005 If they dont sign pk that would be a HUGE mistake. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YASNY Posted January 28, 2005 Share Posted January 28, 2005 Paulie's damn good, but Delgado is better. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JDsDirtySox Posted January 28, 2005 Share Posted January 28, 2005 QUOTE(Punch and Judy Garland @ Jan 28, 2005 -> 09:15 AM) I like how Richie got hurt once and now he's injury prone. As long as something happens once makes you prone, then Paulie is .230 prone. I could be wrong, but didn't Sexson hurt his shoulder... come back, then hurt the shoulder again? I too would say Sexson is a player that may be injury prone. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rangercal Posted January 28, 2005 Share Posted January 28, 2005 QUOTE(YASNY @ Jan 28, 2005 -> 09:25 AM) Paulie's damn good, but Delgado is better. agreed. But I think PK is more of a team player. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Punch and Judy Garland Posted January 28, 2005 Share Posted January 28, 2005 Sexson hurt his shoulder , but it was just a reinjuring. He opted against surgery and just went with rest and rehab and was back in weeks. Then he felt pain on a check-swing and then shut it down and went with surgery. I don't think this qualifies as a Girffey Jr. situation. It's funny how people are braggin about how great are team is after remodeling with the losses of Carlos Lee and Maggs Ordonez but they draw the line for loyalty at Pop up Paulie. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gosox41 Posted January 28, 2005 Share Posted January 28, 2005 QUOTE(SEALgep @ Jan 27, 2005 -> 08:15 PM) He already said he wants to stay on the Sox, and isn't looking to break the bank. I've heard that before, most recently with Magglio. He liked the Sox and felt comfortable in the city. He didn't like the $14 mill. for 5 years he was offered. Bob Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RockRaines Posted January 28, 2005 Share Posted January 28, 2005 QUOTE(AnthraxFan93 @ Jan 28, 2005 -> 09:22 AM) Yep 2nd half of 02 and 2003 sure proved that Give me Delgado any day of the week over paulie, Paulie is so slow he got throw out on a walk! Paulie more valuable, not only because he is more durable, but also because he is a better fielder than both 1b's. And he will be cheaper than delgado, hands down. His attitude is also more influential on the attitude of this team than anyone we could bring in to replace him. Give me Paulie over any of these guys any days of the week. And definatley over a ten foot long signature Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShySox72 Posted January 28, 2005 Share Posted January 28, 2005 A few months ago someone had made a pretty good suggestion for PK. The Sox should give him a decent offer now to see where he stands with the organization. If it's a "reasonable" offer & he declines its, maybe we can make a move before July 31st to pull some add'l talent our way. If he's not looking to stay on the South Side and wants a cash grab, let him go. KW & Ozzie seem content with Gload anyway. However if he signs, that's good for the Sox. I don't believe we need blazing speed on 1B & Konerko can put up numbers (...well at least last year he did). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
qwerty Posted January 28, 2005 Share Posted January 28, 2005 QUOTE(AnthraxFan93 @ Jan 28, 2005 -> 09:22 AM) Yep 2nd half of 02 and 2003 sure proved that Give me Delgado any day of the week over paulie, Paulie is so slow he got throw out on a walk! Yes, and delgado is suddenly a speed demon. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
santo=dorf Posted January 28, 2005 Share Posted January 28, 2005 QUOTE(qwerty @ Jan 28, 2005 -> 02:52 PM) Yes, and delgado is suddenly a speed demon. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> As long as Anthrax is picking and choosing half season stats for first basemen, how about Delgado's first half in 2004? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
qwerty Posted January 28, 2005 Share Posted January 28, 2005 QUOTE(santo=dorf @ Jan 28, 2005 -> 03:28 PM) As long as Anthrax is picking and choosing half season stats for first basemen, how about Delgado's first half in 2004? But don't it's not how you start, it's how you finish. :headshake Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
santo=dorf Posted January 28, 2005 Share Posted January 28, 2005 QUOTE(qwerty @ Jan 28, 2005 -> 03:51 PM) But don't it's not how you start, it's how you finish. :headshake <{POST_SNAPBACK}> s***, how did I forget that? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JUGGERNAUT Posted January 28, 2005 Share Posted January 28, 2005 20-25/3. That's his maximum value. A 17 Lee, Carlos CHW R 103R 180H 31HR 99RBI 11SB 54W 310TB 591AB .891 OPS A 18 Konerko, Paul CHW R 84R 156H 41HR 117RBI 1SB 69W 301TB 563AB .894 OPS Lee is a much better runner so he's able to stretch more 2Bers. Koney's a better HR hitter so he's able to get more RBI's. Overall they compare favorably to one another. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
santo=dorf Posted January 28, 2005 Share Posted January 28, 2005 Compare Lee's and Konerko's Home/Road splits. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Punch and Judy Garland Posted January 28, 2005 Share Posted January 28, 2005 Since we, you know, play at home half the time I wouldn't think it really matters. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
santo=dorf Posted January 29, 2005 Share Posted January 29, 2005 QUOTE(Punch and Judy Garland @ Jan 28, 2005 -> 05:55 PM) Since we, you know, play at home half the time I wouldn't think it really matters. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> I was making the point that Konerko is a product of USCF, whereas Lee puts up the same numbers on the road and home. Therefore I wouldn't say they "compare favorably" to each other. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Punch and Judy Garland Posted January 29, 2005 Share Posted January 29, 2005 I read your post in the wrong context I guess. I agree with you that Lee is better than Konerko. However, I tend to only really look at home/road when it comes to a guy changing teams or extreme cases like Vinny Castilla or Nomar Garciaparra. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoodAsGould Posted January 29, 2005 Share Posted January 29, 2005 i really wouldnt mind seeing Konerko go unless we get an extremely good deal on him. He is a nice guy to have around the clubhouse and all and he will hit you HR's but in my eyes he is worth 6-7 million at most and he already getting paid more than that. I really wouldnt mind if he was traded mid-season or at the end of the season through free agency. It will be nice to have a player leave on good terms for once too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrzo2733 Posted January 29, 2005 Share Posted January 29, 2005 QUOTE(ShySox72 @ Jan 28, 2005 -> 02:27 PM) A few months ago someone had made a pretty good suggestion for PK. The Sox should give him a decent offer now to see where he stands with the organization. If it's a "reasonable" offer & he declines its, maybe we can make a move before July 31st to pull some add'l talent our way. If he's not looking to stay on the South Side and wants a cash grab, let him go. KW & Ozzie seem content with Gload anyway. However if he signs, that's good for the Sox. I don't believe we need blazing speed on 1B & Konerko can put up numbers (...well at least last year he did). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrzo2733 Posted January 29, 2005 Share Posted January 29, 2005 I think I saw that in the tribune a while ago, maybe Phil Rogers. Anyways, I pretty much agree with that still. I would stick with him up to about 26/3. We need his power and run production, and I agree that he is definitely a good clubhouse guy. However, he is just sooo slow. They are so station to station with him on base that I think anything more than a small raise would be a mistake. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JUGGERNAUT Posted January 29, 2005 Share Posted January 29, 2005 Are his road splits really that bad? I can understand a loss of HR power but what about overall hits? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoodAsGould Posted January 29, 2005 Share Posted January 29, 2005 his road stats are horrendous.. like hit 240-250ish Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
santo=dorf Posted January 29, 2005 Share Posted January 29, 2005 QUOTE(JUGGERNAUT @ Jan 29, 2005 -> 11:49 AM) Are his road splits really that bad? I can understand a loss of HR power but what about overall hits? <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Konerko hit .239 on the road last season whereas Carlos batted above .300 on the road and at home. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoodAsGould Posted January 29, 2005 Share Posted January 29, 2005 G AB R H 2B 3B HR RBI BB K SB CS AVG OBP SLG OPS Home 78 278 51 88 10 0 29 70 44 46 0 0 .317 .414 .665 1.079 Away 77 285 33 68 12 0 12 47 25 61 1 0 .239 .301 .407 .708 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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