Joe hit .174 with 57 strikeouts in 201 at bats last year with an OPS of .587.

 

While Timo isn't exactly my favorite player on the team his career batting average is .269 and his career OPS is .691.

 

Is a .269 career average, .306 obp, and .691 ops something to be excited about?

Borchard's always played everyday too.

who has better career stats?

No, but as a bench player, coming off the bench his stats were exceptional last season in clutch situations...THAT is what is important.

 

 

Is a .269 career average, .306 obp, and .691 ops something to be excited about?

which is it? upside or potential? 

 

You asked me what has timo ever DONE.  only have better career offensive numbers than Borchard in everything.

 

His numbers still suck. We could have signed someone for league mininum and they would have put up numbers like his. He is a waste of one million dollars.

Edited March 7, 200521 yr by qwerty

Is a .269 career average, .306 obp, and .691 ops something to be excited about?

 

Nope. But, we were comparing here.

 

I'm not advocating cutting Joe. I just think there's no way he should make the opening day roster over Timo.

 

And, I'm not advocating that Timo is a great player. He's better and more dependable than Joe right now. I don't how this is even an argument.

 

Joe needs to prove himself. He needs to have some success at some level of baseball before he's given a spot on the roster.

no offense, but the debate between timo and joe seems pretty ridiculous, I mean, they are both pretty s***ty. I know they are reserves, but I still think there are ALOT of bench players than are better than both of them.

who has better career stats?

 

Who has 1093 more at-bats in the majors?

Is a .269 career average, .306 obp, and .691 ops something to be excited about?

 

Nobody is saying that Timo is anything special. I think it has more to do with how freaking bad Borchard is. Maybe he is showing us something today, but unless he can prove that he can perform when it counts (which Timo has actually done occasionally), there is no use for him as a player off the bench.

QUOTE(qwerty @ Mar 7, 2005 -> 04:00 PM)

Borchard>timo?

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Please.

 

How about Walker>Cotts?

Update on the game you guys can create another post on who is worse of a player Timo por Joe-blow.

Sweeney ropes it....right into the CF's glove.

 

Got good wood though.

QUOTE(qwerty @ Mar 7, 2005 -> 04:11 PM)

His numbers still suck. We could have signed someone for league mininum and they would have put up numbers like his. He is a waste of one million dollars.

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:headshake

Find someone who had 8 assists and 4 DP in 615 IP, and batted .412 with runners in scoring position and two outs.

 

Timo Perez (career RISP)

289 AB

.318 AVG

.350 OBP

3 HR

125 RBI

20 BB

28 K

men on two outs: .289 BA, .710 OPS

man on third less than two outs: .462 BA, .990 OPS

 

Don't you want a guy with numbers like this for our bench? Who give a f*** how much he is making? We filled all of our holes didn't we?

His numbers still suck. We could have signed someone for league mininum and they would have put up numbers like his. He is a waste of one million dollars.

 

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Lightspeed got you on this one qwert. This last post proves it.

Please.

 

How about Walker>Cotts?

 

At getting lefties out he is most likely. Can anyone really argue that it would be best for cotts down the line that he needs another year of triple a to work on some things?

Edited March 7, 200521 yr by qwerty

Update on the game you guys can create another post on who is worse of a player Timo por Joe-blow.

 

"Joltin' Joe" coming up...

Cotts needs to work on a third pitch he can actually throw.

 

He throws FASTBALLS constantly and almost nothing else with any confidence, so yes, I think Cotts SHOULD be in AAA for a bit, but a lot of people disagree with me.

 

At getting lefties out he is most likely. Can anyone really argue that is would be best for cotts down the line that he needs another year of triple a to work on some things?

Got good wood though.

Should've brought in Timo with that runner on third with two outs!!!

Just saw the new Shingo commercial. Loved it.

 

It was b****ing. No wonder this guy loves it in Chicago, he already has his own special intro and full length commercial.

 

Win. Or die trying.

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Find someone who had 8 assists and 4 DP in 615 IP, and batted .412 with runners in scoring position and two outs.

 

Timo Perez (career RISP)

289 AB

.318 AVG

.350 OBP

3 HR

125 RBI

20 BB

28 K

men on two outs: .289 BA, .710 OPS

man on third less than two outs: .462 BA, .990 OPS

 

Don't you want a guy with numbers like this for our bench?  Who give a f*** how much he is making?  We filled all of our holes didn't we? 

 

How has hit with none on in his entire career? Many more times than not you come up with no one on.

Edited March 7, 200521 yr by qwerty

It's nice to see clips of Frank working out! They say "He hopes to be back sooner than anyone expects."

QUOTE(qwerty @ Mar 7, 2005 -> 04:22 PM)

How has hit with none on in his entire career?

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Not as well.

 

But why worry about his numbers without runners on when he will be used as a bench player?

 

EDIT: Timo's numbers without runners on are stillbetter than Borchard's, so I really don't understand why you have decided to beat a dead horse, again. :headshake

Edited March 7, 200521 yr by santo=dorf

lol...Borchard...

Not as well.

 

But why worry about his numbers without runners on when he will be used as a bench player? 

 

Bench players do not just come in with runners on. They come in at all different times. With people in scoring position, not with people in scoring position, need to get a bunt down, etc. Do you not agree he is over paid at one million dollars?

I still have to wait three weeks for Comcast. God. Damn.

 

How's Sweeney looking? Have to root for an Iowa boy.