May 21, 200520 yr Rumor has it that Billy Beane is looking to trade Barry Zito, what do you guys think about the Sox adding him to the rotation? IMO I think adding another established lefty with nasty stuff would make the rotation even better than it is now. And not to mention the fact that Billy Beane loves making really stupid trades for his stud pitchers, I think KW should pounce on this opportunity.
May 21, 200520 yr QUOTE(FGarcia34 @ May 21, 2005 -> 05:11 AM) Very insiteful, anoyone else have an opinion? No just No
May 21, 200520 yr Author I just thought it would be an interesting move because he may be going pretty cheap due to his sub par stats right now.
May 21, 200520 yr QUOTE(FGarcia34 @ May 21, 2005 -> 05:13 AM) Any reasons why not? Have you seen his ERA lately and record
May 21, 200520 yr wouldnt mind him for the right price. if it were say a mccarthy and a mid level prospect id do it, Zito is still a very good pitcher IMO. Sure hes been s***ty the last 2 seasons, but before that he was what, a Cy Young Winner with liek 25 wins? hes only like 25, 26 and a left, id love to have him
May 21, 200520 yr QUOTE(shagar69 @ May 20, 2005 -> 11:18 PM) wouldnt mind him for the right price. if it were say a mccarthy and a mid level prospect id do it, Zito is still a very good pitcher IMO. Sure hes been s***ty the last 2 seasons, but before that he was what, a Cy Young Winner with liek 25 wins? hes only like 25, 26 and a left, id love to have him Good thing you aren't running the ball club. BMac and a prospect for Zito? Please. I'd ask for Zito and a prospect FOR BMac.
May 21, 200520 yr wow what a terrible idea. Why dont we trade for Enrique Wilson too, he is pretty good.... You can keep your Zito, we have 5 minor leaguers with better stuff.
May 21, 200520 yr QUOTE(FGarcia34 @ May 20, 2005 -> 09:11 PM) Very insiteful, anoyone else have an opinion? I'll pass, Zito is no longer the pitcher he was 2 years ago and beyond. Last year he was mediocre and this year he's proving that last year wasn't a fluke year. He's not bad, but he's not going to put the Sox over the top. A bat like Huff or Chavez...now that could possibly do it.
May 21, 200520 yr Author Since the Sox are looking to win now, and rightfully so with the best record in baseball right now, they should really entertain the possibility of acquiring Zito and bolstering their rotation even more.
May 21, 200520 yr QUOTE(FGarcia34 @ May 21, 2005 -> 05:23 AM) Since the Sox are looking to win now, and rightfully so with the best record in baseball right now, they should really entertain the possibility of acquiring Zito and bolstering their rotation even more. I don't know, man. The numbers don't lie. He has had 3 quality starts in 9 tries this year. His ERA just flat out sucks, and his home stadium is a pitching paradise. Take a look at these splits: Home/Road He has given up 26 runs in 28 innings on the road. Edited May 21, 200520 yr by hammerhead johnson
May 21, 200520 yr Author That is a good point but I still think he is worth getting if the Sox can manage to get him w/o giving up BMac or Brian Anderson
May 21, 200520 yr QUOTE(FGarcia34 @ May 21, 2005 -> 03:32 PM) That is a good point but I still think he is worth getting if the Sox can manage to get him w/o giving up BMac or Brian Anderson Ok so who goes out of the rotation? Why didn't Beane deal him instead of Mulder or Hudson in the off-season? How many walks has Zito given up this season? You know that's definitely going to endear him to Ozzie.
May 21, 200520 yr Author QUOTE(DBAH0 @ May 20, 2005 -> 11:33 PM) Ok so who goes out of the rotation? Why didn't Beane deal him instead of Mulder or Hudson in the off-season? How many walks has Zito given up this season? You know that's definitely going to endear him to Ozzie. I dont want to jinx it but its only a matter of time before the Count or Duque goes down, he didnt trade him because Beane kept the youngest of the Big Three. Zito has walked 21 and struck out 34.
May 21, 200520 yr QUOTE(FGarcia34 @ May 21, 2005 -> 12:32 AM) That is a good point but I still think he is worth getting if the Sox can manage to get him w/o giving up BMac or Brian Anderson So in one trade for one of his Aces Billy got two pitching prospects, and Juan Cruz and in the other he got one pitching prospect, a lights out reliever, and a stud minor league hitter (who's currently sucking this year) but we can get Zito without giving up either of our two best prospects? You're crazy.
May 21, 200520 yr If we can get him without giving away too much im all for it, but with the way he has been pitching lately... He isnt worth a top prospect anymore to me... like Anderson, B-Mac, or Sweeney... anyone else is fine.
May 21, 200520 yr Author QUOTE(Gene Honda Civic @ May 20, 2005 -> 11:37 PM) So in one trade for one of his Aces Billy got two pitching prospects, and Juan Cruz and in the other he got one pitching prospect, a lights out reliever, and a stud minor league hitter (who's currently sucking this year) but we can get Zito without giving up either of our two best prospects? You're crazy. He got Danny Haren who is 1-5 with a 5.32 ERA, Joe Blanton who is 0-4 with a 5.08 ERA, Kiko Calero is 2-0 with a 8.68 ERA, and Kirk Saarloos who is 1-2 with a 4.79 ERA. Beane's master plan is failing right now. Edited May 21, 200520 yr by FGarcia34
May 21, 200520 yr QUOTE(FGarcia34 @ May 21, 2005 -> 05:42 AM) He got Danny Haren who is 1-5 with a 5.32 ERA, Joe Blanton who is 0-4 with a 5.08 ERA, and Kirk Saarloos who is 1-2 with a 4.79 ERA. :puke And I thought that Haren might have had a chance to have a promising year back in April....
May 21, 200520 yr QUOTE(FGarcia34 @ May 21, 2005 -> 12:42 AM) He got Danny Haren who is 1-5 with a 5.32 ERA, Joe Blanton who is 0-4 with a 5.08 ERA, Kiko Calero is 2-0 with a 8.68 ERA, and Kirk Saarloos who is 1-2 with a 4.79 ERA. Beane's master plan is failing right now. You're right, he's going to start maknig dumb trades now getting nothing in return.
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