whitesox61382 Posted July 24, 2005 Share Posted July 24, 2005 Trade deadline moves: Arizona gets: Anderson, Tracey, and Gonzalez(SS) Sox get: Tracy LA gets: Crede, Haigwood, and Owens Sox get: Perez Texas gets: Contreras and Young Sox get: Soriano Offseason: Sign Furcal Resign Konerko Resign AJ Resign Soriano Resign Politte 2006 team: LF Podsednik SS Furcal DH Soriano 1B Konerko 3B Tracy RF Dye CF Rowand C AJ 2B Iguchi Can you imagine how exciting it would be to watch this offseason? The mixture of speed and power would be amazing. There would be a possibility that the top 3 hitters could combine to steal 150 bags, plus you have guys like Dye, Rowand, and Iguchi who are capable of stealing double digit bags. With the exception of Podsednik, all the other hitters are on pace for double digit HR, and three(Soriano, Konerko, and Dye) are on pace for 30+ HR. This lineup could be a 200/200 SB/HR lineup. You have a nice balance to the lineup, and all the players are in the prime of their careers(none of them are over the age of 31). LH Buehrle RH Garcia RH Garland LH Perez RH Hernandez/McCarthy The Sox would retain the big 3 from this year, and add another solid lefty to the mix. They still have McCarthy as insurance in case one of the starters struggles or goes down with an injury(a nice insurance policy to have). RH Hermy RH Politte RH Vizcaino RH Jenks/Baj LH Marte LH Cotts The Sox keep the nucleus of the solid pen of 2005. With a young arm like Jenks/Baj being a wild card with their potential to dominate. IF Uribe IF Ozuna/Harris 1B/OF Gload C - whoever OF - whoever Sign a decent backup catcher and outfielder, and the roster is set. From a payroll perspective, the Sox would lose about 20M from Thomas, Contreras, Takatsu, and Everett, while adding roughly 25M from Tracy, Perez, Soriano, and Furcal. Add in about 10M from internal raises and arbitration, and I think you have a semi-realistic payroll for next year based on the increase in attendance and potential playoff revenue. I realize that this is not going to happen, but it isn't out of the relm of possibility, and I wouldn't be surprised if a deal similar to the ones listed above occur. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted July 24, 2005 Share Posted July 24, 2005 I was actually thinking tonight that Soriano could be the big offensive weapon we needed. Texas is at .500 now, and looks to have a slim chance to win the wild card. With the Rangers needing pitching, I'm sure McCarthy would be intriguing to them. If we were to acquire Soriano, we could switch him between 2b and DH. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rowand44 Posted July 24, 2005 Share Posted July 24, 2005 Talk about shredding your system to hell. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AddisonStSox Posted July 24, 2005 Share Posted July 24, 2005 These have officially gotten out of hand. Unreal. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoshPR Posted July 24, 2005 Share Posted July 24, 2005 QUOTE(whitesox61382 @ Jul 24, 2005 -> 03:31 AM) Trade deadline moves: Arizona gets: Anderson, Tracey, and Gonzalez(SS) Sox get: Tracy LA gets: Crede, Haigwood, and Owens Sox get: Perez Texas gets: Contreras and Young Sox get: Soriano Offseason: Sign Furcal Resign Konerko Resign AJ Resign Soriano Resign Politte 2006 team: LF Podsednik SS Furcal DH Soriano 1B Konerko 3B Tracy RF Dye CF Rowand C AJ 2B Iguchi Can you imagine how exciting it would be to watch this offseason? The mixture of speed and power would be amazing. There would be a possibility that the top 3 hitters could combine to steal 150 bags, plus you have guys like Dye, Rowand, and Iguchi who are capable of stealing double digit bags. With the exception of Podsednik, all the other hitters are on pace for double digit HR, and three(Soriano, Konerko, and Dye) are on pace for 30+ HR. This lineup could be a 200/200 SB/HR lineup. You have a nice balance to the lineup, and all the players are in the prime of their careers(none of them are over the age of 31). LH Buehrle RH Garcia RH Garland LH Perez RH Hernandez/McCarthy The Sox would retain the big 3 from this year, and add another solid lefty to the mix. They still have McCarthy as insurance in case one of the starters struggles or goes down with an injury(a nice insurance policy to have). RH Hermy RH Politte RH Vizcaino RH Jenks/Baj LH Marte LH Cotts The Sox keep the nucleus of the solid pen of 2005. With a young arm like Jenks/Baj being a wild card with their potential to dominate. IF Uribe IF Ozuna/Harris 1B/OF Gload C - whoever OF - whoever Sign a decent backup catcher and outfielder, and the roster is set. From a payroll perspective, the Sox would lose about 20M from Thomas, Contreras, Takatsu, and Everett, while adding roughly 25M from Tracy, Perez, Soriano, and Furcal. Add in about 10M from internal raises and arbitration, and I think you have a semi-realistic payroll for next year based on the increase in attendance and potential playoff revenue. I realize that this is not going to happen, but it isn't out of the relm of possibility, and I wouldn't be surprised if a deal similar to the ones listed above occur. Wake up NOW!!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YASNY Posted July 24, 2005 Share Posted July 24, 2005 QUOTE(JoshPR @ Jul 24, 2005 -> 02:08 AM) Wake up NOW!!!! Nice! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DBAHO Posted July 24, 2005 Share Posted July 24, 2005 QUOTE(fathom @ Jul 24, 2005 -> 01:44 PM) I was actually thinking tonight that Soriano could be the big offensive weapon we needed. Texas is at .500 now, and looks to have a slim chance to win the wild card. With the Rangers needing pitching, I'm sure McCarthy would be intriguing to them. If we were to acquire Soriano, we could switch him between 2b and DH. If people complained about Paul Konerko, what about Alfonso Soriano, his .318 OBP, .230/.270/.382 away from Texas, and 74/18 K/BB ratio? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YASNY Posted July 24, 2005 Share Posted July 24, 2005 QUOTE(DBAH0 @ Jul 24, 2005 -> 05:50 AM) If people complained about Paul Konerko, what about Alfonso Soriano, his .318 OBP, .230/.270/.382 away from Texas, and 74/18 K/BB ratio? But Soriano rocks. He's the answer to all of our problems. :rolly Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rowand44 Posted July 24, 2005 Share Posted July 24, 2005 QUOTE(DBAH0 @ Jul 24, 2005 -> 04:50 AM) If people complained about Paul Konerko, what about Alfonso Soriano, his .318 OBP, .230/.270/.382 away from Texas, and 74/18 K/BB ratio? I would hate Soriano on this team, absolutely hate the idea. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DBAHO Posted July 24, 2005 Share Posted July 24, 2005 QUOTE(YASNY @ Jul 24, 2005 -> 08:55 PM) But Soriano rocks. He's the answer to all of our problems. :rolly OOPS, he has 26 doubles, 1 triple (1 more than Mr. Konerko), and get this, .274 with RISP!!!!!! HE ROCKS!!!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted July 24, 2005 Share Posted July 24, 2005 QUOTE(Rowand44 @ Jul 24, 2005 -> 10:56 AM) I would hate Soriano on this team, absolutely hate the idea. Yeah, how dare someone bring up the notion of obtaining someone who's a legitimate offensive weapon. Soriano, who's not even know for drawing walks, would still have a higher OPS than anyone on our active roster. And you know what, Iguchi is striking out at a much greater rate than Soriano is this season. 71 in 307 AB for Iguchi, compared to 73 in 375 AB for Soriano. I guarantee you would have predicted that Soriano strikes out more frequently/AB. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DBAHO Posted July 24, 2005 Share Posted July 24, 2005 QUOTE(fathom @ Jul 24, 2005 -> 10:55 PM) Yeah, how dare someone bring up the notion of obtaining someone who's a legitimate offensive weapon. Soriano, who's not even know for drawing walks, would still have a higher OPS than anyone on our active roster. And you know what, Iguchi is striking out at a much greater rate than Soriano is this season. 71 in 307 AB for Iguchi, compared to 73 in 375 AB for Soriano. I guarantee you would have predicted that Soriano strikes out more frequently/AB. Ok so we acquire Soriano and trade Iguchi. Where does Soriano hit in the lineup? Who hits in the #2 spot, and does all the little things like sacrifices that Tadahito does? Soriano has an OBP of .318. The only Sox players in our lineup to have a lower OBP are Joe Crede (.307), Carl Everett (.302) and Juan Uribe (.264). Do we want to become a power hitting team again with an all or nothing approach? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
knightni Posted July 24, 2005 Share Posted July 24, 2005 My thoughts... Send Jenks and Sweeney to ATL for Furcal. Send Vizcaino, Owens, Tracey and Crede to TOR for Batista and Hillenbrand. Bench Uribe. Batista can be a #5 starter/long reliever or closer. Furcal is an improvement at SS over Uribe. Hillenbrand is a decent replacement for Crede. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chisoxfn Posted July 24, 2005 Share Posted July 24, 2005 QUOTE(whitesox61382 @ Jul 23, 2005 -> 07:31 PM) Trade deadline moves: Arizona gets: Anderson, Tracey, and Gonzalez(SS) Sox get: Tracy LA gets: Crede, Haigwood, and Owens Sox get: Perez Texas gets: Contreras and Young Sox get: Soriano Offseason: Sign Furcal Resign Konerko Resign AJ Resign Soriano Resign Politte 2006 team: LF Podsednik SS Furcal DH Soriano 1B Konerko 3B Tracy RF Dye CF Rowand C AJ 2B Iguchi Can you imagine how exciting it would be to watch this offseason? The mixture of speed and power would be amazing. There would be a possibility that the top 3 hitters could combine to steal 150 bags, plus you have guys like Dye, Rowand, and Iguchi who are capable of stealing double digit bags. With the exception of Podsednik, all the other hitters are on pace for double digit HR, and three(Soriano, Konerko, and Dye) are on pace for 30+ HR. This lineup could be a 200/200 SB/HR lineup. You have a nice balance to the lineup, and all the players are in the prime of their careers(none of them are over the age of 31). LH Buehrle RH Garcia RH Garland LH Perez RH Hernandez/McCarthy The Sox would retain the big 3 from this year, and add another solid lefty to the mix. They still have McCarthy as insurance in case one of the starters struggles or goes down with an injury(a nice insurance policy to have). RH Hermy RH Politte RH Vizcaino RH Jenks/Baj LH Marte LH Cotts The Sox keep the nucleus of the solid pen of 2005. With a young arm like Jenks/Baj being a wild card with their potential to dominate. IF Uribe IF Ozuna/Harris 1B/OF Gload C - whoever OF - whoever Sign a decent backup catcher and outfielder, and the roster is set. From a payroll perspective, the Sox would lose about 20M from Thomas, Contreras, Takatsu, and Everett, while adding roughly 25M from Tracy, Perez, Soriano, and Furcal. Add in about 10M from internal raises and arbitration, and I think you have a semi-realistic payroll for next year based on the increase in attendance and potential playoff revenue. I realize that this is not going to happen, but it isn't out of the relm of possibility, and I wouldn't be surprised if a deal similar to the ones listed above occur. I don't know what the payroll would be, but I'll say this. I think the respected teams (ie the Dodgers, and the other teams you had making deals) would make those trades. And your right, that would be quite the lineup and pitching staff. Very nice looking lineup/team. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JUGGERNAUT Posted July 24, 2005 Share Posted July 24, 2005 Forget about it. Crede = Pitching. Period. Every starter, the GM, the Mgr, AJ on this team has said as much. We saw what happened when Ozuna was there. Swapping Crede for Tracy right now would be a bad move. The last thing you want to do is disupt the confidence in your rotation & pen & this move is sure to do that. It's not a question of whether Tracy is as good as Crede. It's a question of experience. Make that trade & if Tracy has an error in his first game questions pop into the minds of the pitchers. These are not guys who believe in numbers. They are guys who believe in experience. Crede is a proven glove for them. They look at Thurs game as a rare exception for him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AnthraxFan93 Posted July 24, 2005 Share Posted July 24, 2005 Well since everyone seems to want to be the GM.. Why not listem to the man of reason .. And who else to bring it to you straight than well ME.. Well after 4 years of giving away our farm system for below avg MLB players KW finally realized that this is not the best way to keep one of the easiest jobs in baseball. So finally after JR hired Ozzie, and Ozzie spoke his Mouth KW finally changed the makeup and I give you the 2005 white sox. But with that being said we are pretty much set as a team. KW with his many many failures finally realized that you can not give up the farm.. Who says you can't teach an old dog new tricks, someone needed to give him my number 3 years ago..We as fans would have been seeing this type team since 03..Other than a RP we are not going after anyone big. It doesn't make any sense, granted we are close to the big pitcure..but, we are missingabout 2-3 pieces that we cannot get till this offseason. These past couple of series against Oak and Boston further proving that we are close but don't have enough to win against the playoff teams. So here is by far the best plan to compete for the crown C- Resign AJ to a 3 year deal, This is by far one of KW best moves in actually doing his job and proving us wrong for the first time in years.. AJ, should get rewarded. 1B- Well here is where most will disagree because of your love of Pauly, But he is not the answer by any means, So this offseason we trade off Contreas and Dye to Milwaukee For Lyle Overbay and a minor leaguer.. OverBay is what we need at this postion. Very good D, hits for contact. When you see the lineup you will understand where he fits 2B- Iguchi, he needs an exentsion.. AS I stated when I first started on this board, I belived that this is what we needed to secure this postion. ANd so far he is everthing that I knew he would be. SS- This is a postion that I stated in the offseason we needed to bring in another options, that Uribe was not the answer here. But, leave it to KW aftere failing to secure the postion to overpay for a UTL player in Uribe. So this offseason, we need to finallize this postion for the next 4-5 years with someone who is an everyday SS, that is Rafel Furcal. He fits exactly everything we are looking for out of a SS. 3B- Crede, He stays.. His D is way to valueable, I was wrong to think that Uribe could just take over.. LF- POds.. I don't think I have to explain on why he needs to stay or why he should get an extension CF- Rowand.. Already signed and very good just needs to get over that hump.. and he will no worries RF- With Dye gone we need a replacement, and the best option is Brain Giles, an LHB RF with speed. Granted over the years Giles speed isn't what it once was but enough to grant him a Spot in RF DH- Here is where it gets tricky. I love Frank and want to see him retire a Sox..But not at the money he is making.. We have to make damn sure that he is healthy..But evern still if he is anything more than 4 mil a year is way to much for 1 dimental player. SP Marky and freddy are signed for a while no need to mess with this duo Garland..Sign a 2 year deal, I am not sold on his sucess this season..But I have been known to be wrong every once in a while Now onto starter # 4 There is only 1 option that makes sense that fits what it is what we are looking for.. Jarrod Washburn, Angels have stated that they are not going to resign, he fits what it is that we would need.. And leave ElDque as our #5 this leave us to skip some if his starts to help him not miss to many starts when we need him So here is the lineups going into next year LF- Scott Pods 2b- Iguchi RF- Giles DH Thomas 1b OverBay CF Rowand C Aj 3b Crede SS Furcal 1- Marky B 2. Garcia 3. Washburn 4 Garland 5. Hernandez Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daa84 Posted July 24, 2005 Share Posted July 24, 2005 QUOTE(AnthraxFan93 @ Jul 24, 2005 -> 03:10 PM) Well since everyone seems to want to be the GM.. Why not listem to the man of reason .. And who else to bring it to you straight than well ME.. Well after 4 years of giving away our farm system for below avg MLB players KW finally realized that this is not the best way to keep one of the easiest jobs in baseball. So finally after JR hired Ozzie, and Ozzie spoke his Mouth KW finally changed the makeup and I give you the 2005 white sox. But with that being said we are pretty much set as a team. KW with his many many failures finally realized that you can not give up the farm.. Who says you can't teach an old dog new tricks, someone needed to give him my number 3 years ago..We as fans would have been seeing this type team since 03..Other than a RP we are not going after anyone big. It doesn't make any sense, granted we are close to the big pitcure..but, we are missingabout 2-3 pieces that we cannot get till this offseason. These past couple of series against Oak and Boston further proving that we are close but don't have enough to win against the playoff teams. So here is by far the best plan to compete for the crown C- Resign AJ to a 3 year deal, This is by far one of KW best moves in actually doing his job and proving us wrong for the first time in years.. AJ, should get rewarded. 1B- Well here is where most will disagree because of your love of Pauly, But he is not the answer by any means, So this offseason we trade off Contreas and Dye to Milwaukee For Lyle Overbay and a minor leaguer.. OverBay is what we need at this postion. Very good D, hits for contact. When you see the lineup you will understand where he fits 2B- Iguchi, he needs an exentsion.. AS I stated when I first started on this board, I belived that this is what we needed to secure this postion. ANd so far he is everthing that I knew he would be. SS- This is a postion that I stated in the offseason we needed to bring in another options, that Uribe was not the answer here. But, leave it to KW aftere failing to secure the postion to overpay for a UTL player in Uribe. So this offseason, we need to finallize this postion for the next 4-5 years with someone who is an everyday SS, that is Rafel Furcal. He fits exactly everything we are looking for out of a SS. 3B- Crede, He stays.. His D is way to valueable, I was wrong to think that Uribe could just take over.. LF- POds.. I don't think I have to explain on why he needs to stay or why he should get an extension CF- Rowand.. Already signed and very good just needs to get over that hump.. and he will no worries RF- With Dye gone we need a replacement, and the best option is Brain Giles, an LHB RF with speed. Granted over the years Giles speed isn't what it once was but enough to grant him a Spot in RF DH- Here is where it gets tricky. I love Frank and want to see him retire a Sox..But not at the money he is making.. We have to make damn sure that he is healthy..But evern still if he is anything more than 4 mil a year is way to much for 1 dimental player. SP Marky and freddy are signed for a while no need to mess with this duo Garland..Sign a 2 year deal, I am not sold on his sucess this season..But I have been known to be wrong every once in a while Now onto starter # 4 There is only 1 option that makes sense that fits what it is what we are looking for.. Jarrod Washburn, Angels have stated that they are not going to resign, he fits what it is that we would need.. And leave ElDque as our #5 this leave us to skip some if his starts to help him not miss to many starts when we need him So here is the lineups going into next year LF- Scott Pods 2b- Iguchi RF- Giles DH Thomas 1b OverBay CF Rowand C Aj 3b Crede SS Furcal 1- Marky B 2. Garcia 3. Washburn 4 Garland 5. Hernandez dye signed a 2 year contract, furcal is said to be seeking rollins money, the sox wont give him that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest JimH Posted July 24, 2005 Share Posted July 24, 2005 Well since everyone seems to want to be the GM.. Why not listem to the man of reason .. And who else to bring it to you straight than well ME.. Well after 4 years of giving away our farm system for below avg MLB players KW finally realized that this is not the best way to keep one of the easiest jobs in baseball. So finally after JR hired Ozzie, and Ozzie spoke his Mouth KW finally changed the makeup and I give you the 2005 white sox. But with that being said we are pretty much set as a team. KW with his many many failures finally realized that you can not give up the farm.. Who says you can't teach an old dog new tricks, someone needed to give him my number 3 years ago..We as fans would have been seeing this type team since 03..Other than a RP we are not going after anyone big. It doesn't make any sense, granted we are close to the big pitcure..but, we are missingabout 2-3 pieces that we cannot get till this offseason. These past couple of series against Oak and Boston further proving that we are close but don't have enough to win against the playoff teams. So here is by far the best plan to compete for the crown C- Resign AJ to a 3 year deal, This is by far one of KW best moves in actually doing his job and proving us wrong for the first time in years.. AJ, should get rewarded. 1B- Well here is where most will disagree because of your love of Pauly, But he is not the answer by any means, So this offseason we trade off Contreas and Dye to Milwaukee For Lyle Overbay and a minor leaguer.. OverBay is what we need at this postion. Very good D, hits for contact. When you see the lineup you will understand where he fits 2B- Iguchi, he needs an exentsion.. AS I stated when I first started on this board, I belived that this is what we needed to secure this postion. ANd so far he is everthing that I knew he would be. SS- This is a postion that I stated in the offseason we needed to bring in another options, that Uribe was not the answer here. But, leave it to KW aftere failing to secure the postion to overpay for a UTL player in Uribe. So this offseason, we need to finallize this postion for the next 4-5 years with someone who is an everyday SS, that is Rafel Furcal. He fits exactly everything we are looking for out of a SS. 3B- Crede, He stays.. His D is way to valueable, I was wrong to think that Uribe could just take over.. LF- POds.. I don't think I have to explain on why he needs to stay or why he should get an extension CF- Rowand.. Already signed and very good just needs to get over that hump.. and he will no worries RF- With Dye gone we need a replacement, and the best option is Brain Giles, an LHB RF with speed. Granted over the years Giles speed isn't what it once was but enough to grant him a Spot in RF DH- Here is where it gets tricky. I love Frank and want to see him retire a Sox..But not at the money he is making.. We have to make damn sure that he is healthy..But evern still if he is anything more than 4 mil a year is way to much for 1 dimental player. SP Marky and freddy are signed for a while no need to mess with this duo Garland..Sign a 2 year deal, I am not sold on his sucess this season..But I have been known to be wrong every once in a while Now onto starter # 4 There is only 1 option that makes sense that fits what it is what we are looking for.. Jarrod Washburn, Angels have stated that they are not going to resign, he fits what it is that we would need.. And leave ElDque as our #5 this leave us to skip some if his starts to help him not miss to many starts when we need him So here is the lineups going into next year LF- Scott Pods 2b- Iguchi RF- Giles DH Thomas 1b OverBay CF Rowand C Aj 3b Crede SS Furcal 1- Marky B 2. Garcia 3. Washburn 4 Garland 5. Hernandez <{POST_SNAPBACK}> BWAAAAAHAAAA HAAAAA HAAAAA Rotisserie League, paging Anthrax. Xbox, paging Anthrax. Go away, your 15 minutes have long been over. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JUGGERNAUT Posted July 24, 2005 Share Posted July 24, 2005 C- Resign AJ to a 3 year deal Agreed. He is worth more to the White Sox than any other team which means we do not have to pay market price to resign him. 1B- Well here is where most will disagree because of your love of Pauly, But he is not the answer by any means, So this offseason we trade off Contreas and Dye to Milwaukee For Lyle Overbay and a minor leaguer.. OverBay is what we need at this postion. Very good D, hits for contact. When you see the lineup you will understand where he fits. This is a pipe-dream. Milwaukee is not going to trade off a young run-producer like Overbay for a .500 pitcher over-acheiving in 2005 & a guy who has been a serious health risk the past 4 yrs. 1B - For me it's KGJ provided the Reds pick up that which they owe him so far in deferred $. LHers are natural 1B. He should take to it like a fish in water. His remaining contract will cost less over the next 3 yrs than Koney over the next 4 yrs. 2B- Iguchi, he needs an exentsion.. AS I stated when I first started on this board, I belived that this is what we needed to secure this postion. ANd so far he is everthing that I knew he would be. Agreed. He is worth more to the White Sox than any other team which means we do not have to pay market price to keep him. SS- This is a postion that I stated in the offseason we needed to bring in another options, that Uribe was not the answer here. But, leave it to KW aftere failing to secure the postion to overpay for a UTL player in Uribe. So this offseason, we need to finallize this postion for the next 4-5 years with someone who is an everyday SS, that is Rafel Furcal. He fits exactly everything we are looking for out of a SS. With KGJ hitting cleanup over Uribe's contract term we can shoulder his lack luster bat for his much needed defense. Don't forget he's proven himself at 3B, & 2B which makes him a versatile player. 3B- Crede, He stays.. His D is way to valueable, I was wrong to think that Uribe could just take over.. Agreed. He is worth more to the White Sox than any other team which means we do not have to pay market price to keep him. LF- POds.. I don't think I have to explain on why he needs to stay or why he should get an extension Agreed. He is worth more to the White Sox than any other team which means we do not have to pay market price to keep him. CF- Rowand.. Already signed and very good just needs to get over that hump.. and he will no worries Agreed. He is worth more to the White Sox than any other team which means we do not have to pay market price to keep him. RF- With Dye gone we need a replacement, and the best option is Brain Giles, an LHB RF with speed. Granted over the years Giles speed isn't what it once was but enough to grant him a Spot in RF Dye is signed thru 2006 & with Anderson & Sweeney in the ml's there is no reason to trade or sign to upgrade this position. SDP giving up Giles is a pipe-dream. DH- Here is where it gets tricky. I love Frank and want to see him retire a Sox..But not at the money he is making.. We have to make damn sure that he is healthy..But evern still if he is anything more than 4 mil a year is way to much for 1 dimental player. Agreed. He is worth more to the White Sox than any other team which means we do not have to pay market price to keep him. SP Marky and freddy are signed for a while no need to mess with this duo Garland..Sign a 2 year deal, I am not sold on his sucess this season..But I have been known to be wrong every once in a while Now onto starter # 4 There is only 1 option that makes sense that fits what it is what we are looking for.. Jarrod Washburn, Angels have stated that they are not going to resign, he fits what it is that we would need.. And leave ElDque as our #5 this leave us to skip some if his starts to help him not miss to many starts when we need him Contreras is signed thru 2006, El Duque is signed thru 2006. Washburn is likely to cost a big contract & with 15W Jon is in line to win the Cy Young. Anything less than a $40M/4yr deal is a pipe-dream. Lineup: LF - SPods (only place we can play him) 2B - Iguchi (sacrifices himself for the team) 1B - Ken Griffey Jr DH - Frank Thomas 3B - Aaron Rowand RF - Jermaine Dye C - AJ 3B - Crede SS - Uribe <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AnthraxFan93 Posted July 24, 2005 Share Posted July 24, 2005 BWAAAAAHAAAA HAAAAA HAAAAA Rotisserie League, paging Anthrax. Xbox, paging Anthrax. Go away, your 15 minutes have long been over. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> :headshake Jim you still are living in doubt.. Its sad to see actually. With all your years watchign the Sox and still you have no idea how a winning team is suppose to look like, Granted we have the best record in the majors..But compared up to the top teams.. we really are still missing pieces.. its sad that your to blind to see the truth.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chisoxfn Posted July 24, 2005 Share Posted July 24, 2005 I'm sorry, but this thread is just cracking me up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rowand44 Posted July 24, 2005 Share Posted July 24, 2005 QUOTE(AnthraxFan93 @ Jul 24, 2005 -> 04:00 PM) :headshake Jim you still are living in doubt.. Its sad to see actually. With all your years watchign the Sox and still you have no idea how a winning team is suppose to look like, Granted we have the best record in the majors..But compared up to the top teams.. we really are still missing pieces.. its sad that your to blind to see the truth.. Alright mr gm. How are you getting Giles?? How are you getting Furcal?? You can't just magically get these players. By the way Jim has more baseball knowledge in his left pinky then you'll ever have in your life. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest JimH Posted July 24, 2005 Share Posted July 24, 2005 :headshake Jim you still are living in doubt.. Its sad to see actually. With all your years watchign the Sox and still you have no idea how a winning team is suppose to look like, Granted we have the best record in the majors..But compared up to the top teams.. we really are still missing pieces.. its sad that your to blind to see the truth.. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> I'm not blind enough to see this truth, you need to go away, your 15 minutes of has long since passed. Try southsiders.net or the main White Sox board. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AnthraxFan93 Posted July 24, 2005 Share Posted July 24, 2005 Juggs, Granted we agree on alot of issue, which is hard not to.. but there is a couple that we disagree on and big time.. With the biggest being 1B.. Please explain the pipe dream that is The often injured KGJ? I am confused on how you think he would be a good replacement at 1B def when he has a total of 2 games in his career at the postion.. Actually 2 Innings.. But we can just go and annoint him as our replacement? This is by far a Pipe Dream idea that he would be any good at this postion. Overbay trade..You might have heard of this guy called Prince Fielder..He is going to be the starting 1b for the Brewers in 06.. So overbay is nothing but a bench player.. Milwaukee wcould use pitching and another Stick who could play 1b and OF.. ANd not cost them all that much. OUr other disagreement is that Uribe/Furcal.. Uribe would go back to his 2004 postion of UTL player, which he excelled at..URibe is not a eceryday player, this is what we all came to realize this year. And washburn.. I don't think he would command that type of money, mabye a 6-7mil a year deal.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AnthraxFan93 Posted July 24, 2005 Share Posted July 24, 2005 Alright mr gm. How are you getting Giles?? How are you getting Furcal?? You can't just magically get these players. By the way Jim has more baseball knowledge in his left pinky then you'll ever have in your life. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> NO my daddy can beat up your daddy this is your best defense? Giles and Furcal are both FA at the end of year..See there is process Free Agency Rules: # Must have 6 full years of Major League service time to be eligible for free agency (both Disabled-List and Active Roster time count for service) (1 year of service is equal to 182 days or the number of days fro, Opening Day thru final day of season) # The players' contract must also expire for him to be eligible for Free Agency # Players can not sign with other teams then their own until after the 15-Day Period following the conclusion of the World Series. During the 15 days they can negotiate with their previous team and if an agreement is not reached, that player can file for Free Agency. # Sometime between Dec. 18 and Dec. 22 players who are not arbitration eligible, cannot re-sign with their old teams until May 1st of the next year. # Players who are offered arbitration can re-sign till January 8th. On this day they must declare whether they accept or reject arbitration. If he accepts arbitration he has re-signed with his old team can still can sign a deal with that team before his arbitration hearing. If he goes into arb., the single year contract value is decided by an MLB arbitrator # An un-signed player who has at least 3 years of service time is also eligible for arbitration. The top 1 third of players as determined by their statistics are also be eligble for arbitration. Players are arb.-eligible again in there 4th and 5th years of service, if he does not have a multi-year contract and meets requirmentss. A player with 2 years of service time, if an arbitrator deems the player a Super-Two. This usually happens if a player has been a starter for his first two seasons and his stats resembles those of the top players at that position. # A minor league player who has spent the previous six years with the same organization is also eligible for minor league free agency. A player that has six years of minor league service, with various teams, is also deemed a six-year Minor League FA. # At the end of each year each free agent is dubbed a Type A or Type B or Type C depending on their stats with Type A free agents being at the top third of the stats that MLB uses. A team that loses a Type A free agent is compensated with the 1st round pick of the team that signs him. This team also gets a supplemental or sandwich pick between rounds 1 and 2. A team losing a Type B free agent is simply compensated with the highest player that is signed. For instance if Team A signs X and O but only O who was picked in the 2nd round was signed. Team B would only get Player O not X. But in both cases a team selecting in the 1st half of the 1st round cannot lose its 1st round pick. Teams that lose Type C free agents are compensated with a sandwich pick between rounds 2 and 3. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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