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End of discussion...

NO. I'll take Huff.

NO.  I'll take Huff.

Huff would be awesome as long as you're not relying on him to be your everyday thirdbaseman.

 

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Huff would be awesome as long as you're not relying on him to be your everyday thirdbaseman.

 

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Overbay would be awesome if we did not have Gload, Carl and Frank

Orlando Cabrera.

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Naa He been injuried for most of the year.. Otherwise he would solve alot of our problems.

We need hits and runs more than pitching.

 

This week has shown that.

 

Overbay has the highest upside for this year and next year.

Overbay would be awesome if we did not have Gload, Carl and Frank

1st you want Willie to start over Gooch and now you want stonehands at 3rd. Tell me exactly how we would use Huff??? Overbay would be our starting Dh and Konerko the starting 1B. Carl will get AB's filling in for Dye, Pods, and the DH.

Who is that?

 

Jimenez?

Alomar. But AJ already wears 12 IIRC. Guess he'll have to change his number because Roberto's is 12. So when do we retire his number?

1st you want Willie to start over Gooch and now you want stonehands at 3rd. Tell me exactly how we would use Huff??? Overbay would be our starting Dh and Konerko the starting 1B. Carl will get AB's filling in for Dye, Pods, and the DH.

I did not neccesarily say I wanted willie to start FULL TIME over gooch.

 

This is a different matter, stone hands ? Why don't you ask yasny permission to use his lines before you use it.

 

DH is not our weakness on offense. Carl is doing just fine IMO. Frank would be fine too if he were healthy. That is not ceratain that he is out for the year. What happens if Frank gets back?

 

Where as with Huff you can rotate him around better. He does not have to start at 3rd. But it sure beats putting Pablo out there on Crede's off days. Huff can also play OF ,1b and like the talented overbay, he can DH too. Overbay being limited to 1b and Dh is why Im not wetting myself over him. Why "Overpay for Overbay " when you have Paul and Gload who can play 1st; Carl ,who has played DH just fine, and Frank, who may still come back.

I'm going with Vizquel because I think another near .300 bat would have the biggest impact and I don't see how Huff or Overbay get in the lineup everyday like they should. I don't see Ozzie benching Everett or Konerko for extended periods of time, meaning those guys would be part of a logjam that would end up limiting their effectiveness. Wagner gets second place for me.

I disagree strongly. Crede is abso-f***ing-lutely solid at 3B. His defense is top notch and his offense has been coming around. I have really warmed up to Crede and I hope he has a monster 2nd half. Imagine this:

 

Pods

Gooch

Overbay

Dye

PK

Rowand

AJ

Crede

Uribe

 

Wait another week or two on Crede. We've seen him pull this crap before.

Wait another week or two on Crede. We've seen him pull this crap before.

3 months this season hitting above .275, and an OPS over .818 in those months.

3 months this season hitting above .275, and an OPS over .818 in those months.

 

Crede still gives up a few too many outs on the plate with weak swings, but he's turned into one of our most dangerous hitters. While PK has just become a joke in the clutch, Crede actually adjusts his swing for the situation. An AL team can do a lot worse than having Crede batting 8th in the order, and having him play the hot corner as well as he does.

Crede still gives up a few too many outs on the plate with weak swings, but he's turned into one of our most dangerous hitters.  While PK has just become a joke in the clutch, Crede actually adjusts his swing for the situation.  An AL team can do a lot worse than having Crede batting 8th in the order, and having him play the hot corner as well as he does.

I agree. At least Crede has shown glimpses of great ability. If we need someone to pop up or hit a solo HR with no weight on the outcome of the game, I want PK.

1st you want Willie to start over Gooch and now you want stonehands at 3rd. Tell me exactly how we would use Huff??? Overbay would be our starting Dh and Konerko the starting 1B. Carl will get AB's filling in for Dye, Pods, and the DH.

And you can't use Huff the same way you'd use Overbay??? I'd want either guy, I'd absolutely love either guy.

And you can't use Huff the same way you'd use Overbay???  I'd want either guy, I'd absolutely love either guy.

 

Quick question for ya: will a player coming from either the Brewers or the Devil Rays improve this team so dramatically you would feel more secure in the post-season?

 

When I think, bearing down for post-season play, I don't think promising youngster--something I would consider both Huff and Overbay.

Quick question for ya: will a player coming from either the Brewers or the Devil Rays improve this team so dramatically you would feel more secure in the post-season?

 

When I think, bearing down for post-season play, I don't think promising youngster--something I would consider both Huff and Overbay.

How are they promising youngsters??? Huff's been an absolute stud the past few years and right now is getting himself back on track. Overbay was very solid last year and has been better this year, both guys have proven themselves, it's not like we'd be waiting for them to develop.

How are they promising youngsters???  Huff's been an absolute stud the past few years and right now is getting himself back on track.  Overbay was very solid last year and has been better this year, both guys have proven themselves, it's not like we'd be waiting for them to develop.

 

When I think trade-dealine moves, I think proven veterans or someone with can't-miss success written all over him.

 

See, my ideal deadline move is very similar to what the Cardinals did last season to acquire Larry Walker. Walker was a proven veteran with a big stick and the burning desire to get a WS ring.

 

Overbay-though talented, would likely platoon and may or may not a significant amount of offensive fire-power

 

Huff-although more proven, isn't the type of guy that strikes fear in the hearts of his opponents; plus, neither one of these guys would provide a veteran spark.

When I think trade-dealine moves, I think proven veterans or someone with can't-miss success written all over him.

 

See, my ideal deadline move is very similar to what the Cardinals did last season to acquire Larry Walker.  Walker was a proven veteran with a big stick and the burning desire to get a WS ring.

 

Overbay-though talented, would likely platoon and may or may not a significant amount of offensive fire-power

 

Huff-although more proven, isn't the type of guy that strikes fear in the hearts of his opponents; plus, neither one of these guys would provide a veteran spark.

Overbay is a great obp, high average hitter. He had over 50 doubles last year, just think about that for a second. Some of those doubles would definitely turn into homers. Overbay is 28 so it's not like we're trading for a 22 year old prospect here. Huff is a 30 homer, 100 rbi guy. He's just an awesome hitter and I disagree that he doesn't strike fear into the opposition. Huff is a great hitter and at this point of there careers I'd rather have Huff than Walker.

When I think trade-dealine moves, I think proven veterans or someone with can't-miss success written all over him.

 

See, my ideal deadline move is very similar to what the Cardinals did last season to acquire Larry Walker.  Walker was a proven veteran with a big stick and the burning desire to get a WS ring.

 

Overbay-though talented, would likely platoon and may or may not a significant amount of offensive fire-power

 

Huff-although more proven, isn't the type of guy that strikes fear in the hearts of his opponents; plus, neither one of these guys would provide a veteran spark.

i think good players when i think improving teh team at the deadline. huff is a good player

When I think trade-dealine moves, I think proven veterans or someone with can't-miss success written all over him.

 

See, my ideal deadline move is very similar to what the Cardinals did last season to acquire Larry Walker.  Walker was a proven veteran with a big stick and the burning desire to get a WS ring.

 

Overbay-though talented, would likely platoon and may or may not a significant amount of offensive fire-power

 

Huff-although more proven, isn't the type of guy that strikes fear in the hearts of his opponents; plus, neither one of these guys would provide a veteran spark.

 

Overbay and Huff are much better players than Walker was last season. Both players would greatly improve our offense. Isn't it better to see Everett as our 4th outfielder, instead of Timo (I know, he's been swinging the bat better lately). This way, Timo can go back to being a bat off the bench for crucial situations instead of having to play some whole games.

When I think trade-dealine moves, I think proven veterans or someone with can't-miss success written all over him.

 

See, my ideal deadline move is very similar to what the Cardinals did last season to acquire Larry Walker.  Walker was a proven veteran with a big stick and the burning desire to get a WS ring.

 

Overbay-though talented, would likely platoon and may or may not a significant amount of offensive fire-power

 

Huff-although more proven, isn't the type of guy that strikes fear in the hearts of his opponents; plus, neither one of these guys would provide a veteran spark.

 

The Sox had a deal worked out for Walker, but he wouldn't waive his no trade clause. Same with Carlos Delgado.

 

Once again, if Kenny doesn't get a deal done, it isn't for a lack of trying.

and at this point of there careers I'd rather have Huff than Walker.

 

 

Overbay and Huff are much better players than Walker was last season.