daa84 Posted July 28, 2005 Share Posted July 28, 2005 QUOTE(Ishmookie @ Jul 27, 2005 -> 08:18 PM) is the article old or is it new from tonight? This may be one gigantic misinterrepretation of that article. it says that the sox said that they would do that deal on monday (which we alreayd knew, if the marlins would pay enough of lowell). what exactly did they say on am1000? was it talking about the article or was it saying it was donE???/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tadahito15 Posted July 28, 2005 Share Posted July 28, 2005 This is interesting because just earlier today a writer said that the Marlins rejected both Soxs' trades (Red+White) and would most likely be holding onto him. It was in one of WSI's threads. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted July 28, 2005 Share Posted July 28, 2005 QUOTE(santo=dorf @ Jul 28, 2005 -> 02:18 AM) El Duque for Gordon? f*** that.   Are you kidding? I would do that trade in a heartbeat! Hell, I'd even throw in a mid-level prospect for Gordon. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rangercal Posted July 28, 2005 Share Posted July 28, 2005 G AB R H 2B 3B HR RBI BB K SB CS AVG OBP SLG OPS April 21 81 11 16 6 0 2 8 4 11 0 0 .198 .233 .346 .578 May 25 84 7 17 9 0 0 11 8 10 0 0 .202 .263 .310 .573 June 24 92 8 23 6 0 1 12 8 13 0 0 .250 .310 .348 .658 July 19 71 9 21 6 0 2 13 5 7 1 0 .296 .346 .465 .811 Lowells splits Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick Allen Posted July 28, 2005 Share Posted July 28, 2005 QUOTE(Goldmember @ Jul 27, 2005 -> 08:16 PM) link So this is an old story. It said the Marlins had not agreed to it as of late Monday. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JDsDirtySox Posted July 28, 2005 Share Posted July 28, 2005 This is not new info. This info is in the Current Sports Weekly. Â I hope this deal happens... but I think if it does, it won't be till Saturday at the earliest. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChiSox_Sonix Posted July 28, 2005 Share Posted July 28, 2005 QUOTE(fathom @ Jul 27, 2005 -> 08:15 PM) Has he been playing better? I haven't been following him.   not really. His BA is up a little but he isnt driving the ball at all and appears to be "feeling" for the ball at the plate and has way too many timid/protection swings in hitters counts. His run production is way down and at this point it has to be mental b/c I believe he can be just as good as he has been the past 3-4 years Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AngelasDaddy0427 Posted July 28, 2005 Share Posted July 28, 2005 This is bad news... Lowell makes an already anemic offense even more inconsistant... It puts a great second half player out of the lineup in Crede.... and guaruntees playing time to a guy who should be a super sub on the bench in Uribe... PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE don't take Lowell... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3E8 Posted July 28, 2005 Share Posted July 28, 2005 I think this is just rehash of Monday's rumors? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daa84 Posted July 28, 2005 Share Posted July 28, 2005 QUOTE(ChiSox_Sonix @ Jul 27, 2005 -> 08:21 PM) not really. His BA is up a little but he isnt driving the ball at all and appears to be "feeling" for the ball at the plate and has way too many timid/protection swings in hitters counts. His run production is way down and at this point it has to be mental b/c I believe he can be just as good as he has been the past 3-4 years ok my pulse has fallen back to normal, this is the same crap we knew about 2 days ago.....damnit Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tadahito15 Posted July 28, 2005 Share Posted July 28, 2005 QUOTE(Jeckle2000 @ Jul 27, 2005 -> 08:21 PM) This is bad news... Lowell makes an already anemic offense even more inconsistant... It puts a great second half player out of the lineup in Crede.... and guaruntees playing time to a guy who should be a super sub on the bench in Uribe... PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE don't take Lowell... This really isnt much new news at all.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted July 28, 2005 Share Posted July 28, 2005 QUOTE(Goldmember @ Jul 27, 2005 -> 09:16 PM) link Very interesting stuff, a whole lot of info in that article  Trade talk: The White Sox agreed to trade top pitching prospect Brandon McCarthy and left-handed reliever Damaso Marte to the Marlins for starter A.J. Burnett and third baseman Mike Lowell, if the Marlins agreed to pay half of Lowell's remaining $18 million through 2007. The Marlins had not as of late Monday. The White Sox wanted a 72-hour window to sign Burnett, who is seeking at least $40 million over four years. If they acquire Burnett, the White Sox are expected to offer him $27 million over three years. ...  I wonder if Brandon's 3 hit 8 inning shutout had anything to do with this trade getting done. I also wonder if we are getting Mike Lowell to replace Joe Crede as a nontender if Lowell can look like he can still hit.   The Yankees were trying to acquire White Sox starter Orlando "El Duque" Hernandez but were resisting Chicago's demand for setup man Tom Gordon  How facinating is that deal. My last years stud, for your two years ago stud. Both would be HUGE for the teams they went to. A definate win-win if it happens. The problem is the Yanks pen is so bad, they will never do it.  Also: The White Sox are worried about DH Frank Thomas' deteriorating ankle and are expected to pay him a $3.5 million buyout instead of picking up his $10 million option in 2006  Duh? We all knew this was going to happen. Talk to me after October when we see if the Sox want to offer him a contact. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DBAHO Posted July 28, 2005 Share Posted July 28, 2005 B-Mac's great outing today for Charlotte probably helped seal the deal. They're going to have a stud rotation in a few years with Willis, Beckett, Olson, McCarthy and Vargas, if this does go down. Â Here are Lowell's splits; Â HOME - .241/.318/.371 AWAY - .228/.251/.354 LEFTY - .343/.395/.557 RIGHTY - .205/.255/.310 JULY - .296/.346/.465 Â That he sucks against righties and has hit better home at Pro Player (a real pitcher's park) than away, is not good. Not good at all. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
santo=dorf Posted July 28, 2005 Share Posted July 28, 2005 (edited) QUOTE(fathom @ Jul 27, 2005 -> 09:20 PM) Are you kidding? I would do that trade in a heartbeat! Hell, I'd even throw in a mid-level prospect for Gordon. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Gordon was overworked last year, and just isn't the same. I loved him with the Sox back in 2003, but I don't think he's worth giving up a guy who we are depending on onfe the postseason starts. Edited July 28, 2005 by santo=dorf Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoxFan1 Posted July 28, 2005 Share Posted July 28, 2005 When it happens, I will be convinced it is done. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KevHead0881 Posted July 28, 2005 Share Posted July 28, 2005 QUOTE(SoxFan1 @ Jul 28, 2005 -> 02:24 AM) When it happens, I will be convinced it is done. Â Insightful. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tadahito15 Posted July 28, 2005 Share Posted July 28, 2005 QUOTE(santo=dorf @ Jul 27, 2005 -> 08:24 PM) Gordon was overworked last year, and just isn't the same. I loved him with the Sox back in 2003, but I don't think he's worth giving up a guy who we are depending on onfe the postseason starts. IF we do get Burnett though and go with a 4 man rotation come play off time, El Duque really isnt needed besides as a BP guy... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted July 28, 2005 Share Posted July 28, 2005 QUOTE(santo=dorf @ Jul 28, 2005 -> 02:24 AM) Gordon was overworked last year, and just isn't the same. I loved him with the Sox back in 2003, but I don't think he's worth giving up a guy who we are depending on onfe the postseason starts.  Who says we have to depend on Duque to start in the postseason? IF we make it, I'd have no problem with him not starting. Ozzie better not start him above the big 3. Gordon could help you out a lot more than Duque could in the postseason. Gordon and his 2.72 ERA sure sucks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daa84 Posted July 28, 2005 Share Posted July 28, 2005 QUOTE(Tadahito15 @ Jul 27, 2005 -> 08:26 PM) IF we do get Burnett though and go with a 4 man rotation come play off time, El Duque really isnt needed besides as a BP guy... im so glad we get to hear jets/bills talk on am1000 instead of the AJ burnett rumor Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick Allen Posted July 28, 2005 Share Posted July 28, 2005 QUOTE(santo=dorf @ Jul 27, 2005 -> 08:24 PM) Gordon was overworked last year, and just isn't the same. I loved him with the Sox back in 2003, but I don't think he's worth giving up a guy who we are depending on onfe the postseason starts. He had a tough start, but he's been great the last 3 months. ERA about 2.00. Averaging a strikeout an inning. He can also close. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frank the Tank 35 Posted July 28, 2005 Share Posted July 28, 2005 QUOTE(Kalapse @ Jul 27, 2005 -> 08:17 PM) His BA's for every month have risen considerably. I think .198, .220, .260 and now like .290. total guesses though. Â Yeah, it's somewhere around that. He's been hitting progressively better... the power (hopefully) should be the next thing to come back. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nitetrain8601 Posted July 28, 2005 Share Posted July 28, 2005 QUOTE(SoxFan1 @ Jul 27, 2005 -> 08:24 PM) When it happens, I will be convinced it is done. Â Me too. WIth that said. I'm pretty sure it isn't going down. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoxFan1 Posted July 28, 2005 Share Posted July 28, 2005 QUOTE(KevHead0881 @ Jul 27, 2005 -> 10:25 PM) Insightful. What more is there to say? I'll believe it when every tv and radio station is confirming a DONE deal. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KevHead0881 Posted July 28, 2005 Share Posted July 28, 2005 QUOTE(SoxFan1 @ Jul 28, 2005 -> 02:30 AM) What more is there to say? I'll believe it when every tv and radio station is confirming a DONE deal. Â I was just messing with ya. Actually, I agree with you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daa84 Posted July 28, 2005 Share Posted July 28, 2005 QUOTE(nitetrain8601 @ Jul 27, 2005 -> 08:30 PM) Me too. WIth that said. I'm pretty sure it isn't going down. yeah i believe this is the same info levine was givin earlier, that the sox were very close to a 72 hour window, and that the money with lowell was what was holding it up. btw if there is a 72 hour window this time, the deal has to be agreed by tomorrow Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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