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Why Does Jermaine Dye Get a Pass

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Seems everyone wants to blame Timo for the Sox slide. But Dye has done nothing for weeks. This is a guy who should be driving in runs. :huh

Dye basically carried this offense for two months. Now, he's slumping majorly again like he did to start the season. Part of the reason it would have been great to acquire another OF/DH was to be able to sit Dye, or any other outfielder, more when they're slumping. What's Ozzie going to do now, bench Dye for Anderson?

BTW, I don't think people blame Timo personally. Rather, many of us feel Timo is representative of the complacency that happened with this team about a month ago. Also, Timo is representative of the cluelessness that is Ozzie Guillen's in-game managing.

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He carried us for two months? I don't remember that. I remember a lot of solo home runs. Just seems like he's faded. Great catch last night, though.

QUOTE(Colorado Sox Fan @ Aug 24, 2005 -> 10:24 PM)
He carried us for two months? I don't remember that. I remember a lot of solo home runs.  Just seems like he's faded. Great catch last night, though.

It's hard to hate on a guy when he has 22 HR's, and a SLG of .474. Yeah he's streaky as hell, as fathom said, but I'm banking on the fact he'll finish up strong like the rest of the offense, because there's no way they can be as bad as they are now.

 

Of course something to consider, Dye spurned a larger offer from Texas. They signed Richard Hidalgo. Let's just say he won't be back with them next season.

a pass? wasn't he generally referred to as "dead" on this board for an extended period of time?

QUOTE(Colorado Sox Fan @ Aug 24, 2005 -> 06:16 AM)
Seems everyone wants to blame Timo for the Sox slide.  But Dye has done nothing for weeks. This is a guy who should be driving in runs.  :huh

who is hitting the ball??? crede...no, uribe....no, rowand....no, whoever is in left? nope..........the only people not in a slump are konerko and iguchi. cant blame it simply on dye.

QUOTE(daa84 @ Aug 24, 2005 -> 01:31 PM)
who is hitting the ball??? crede...no, uribe....no, rowand....no, whoever is in left? nope..........the only people not in a slump are konerko and iguchi. cant blame it simply on dye.

 

Iguchi's in a big slump also right now, and his execution at the plate has rivaled Crede for being the worst on the team over the last few weeks.

Sooooo many offensive problems, sooooo little time.

QUOTE(Texsox @ Aug 24, 2005 -> 02:01 PM)
Sooooo many offensive problems, sooooo little time.

 

Soooo little in-house options.

QUOTE(thedoctor @ Aug 24, 2005 -> 07:14 AM)
a pass? wasn't he generally referred to as "dead" on this board for an extended period of time?

 

 

Yeah, about the only guy who got more venom than Dye was maybe Cruddy.

It's time to give Brian Anderson a look now. I think that both the notions that Dye "carried us" and given us a pass are both incorrect really. He was called Jermaine Dead for a long time and he got better but it wasn't like he played THAT great. The issues with this offense are plentiful, to the point that finding a scapegoat like Dye doesn't accomplish much.

QUOTE(fathom @ Aug 24, 2005 -> 09:02 AM)
Soooo little in-house options.

Too bad Gload isn't still in the organization

QUOTE(Texsox @ Aug 24, 2005 -> 02:01 PM)
Sooooo many offensive problems, sooooo little time.

QUOTE(Punch and Judy Garland @ Aug 24, 2005 -> 02:12 PM)
The issues with this offense are plentiful, to the point that finding a scapegoat like Dye doesn't accomplish much.

^^^^^ Those.

 

Btw, who in the world is blaming this slide on Timo? That comment made me lol.

QUOTE(Punch and Judy Garland @ Aug 24, 2005 -> 02:12 PM)
It's time to give Brian Anderson a look now. I think that both the notions that Dye "carried us" and given us a pass are both incorrect really. He was called Jermaine Dead for a long time and he got better but it wasn't like he played THAT great. The issues with this offense are plentiful, to the point that finding a scapegoat like Dye doesn't accomplish much.

 

Dye's OPS from May to July was outstanding. Of course, that was when he wasn't trying to pull every pitch. I wouldn't be against giving another hitter a chance in this lineup, but Anderson's swing is too long to contribute at this level now.

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QUOTE(NUKE_CLEVELAND @ Aug 24, 2005 -> 08:10 AM)
Yeah,  about the only guy who got more venom than Dye was maybe Cruddy.

Really? I must not have been paying attention. I've seen a lot about Crede, Timo, Paulie, but don't remember seeing much on Dye. I'll take your work for it.

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QUOTE(jackie hayes @ Aug 24, 2005 -> 08:14 AM)
^^^^^ Those.

 

Btw, who in the world is blaming this slide on Timo?  That comment made me lol.

Lots of folks. For example, the reason we lost last night was Timo pinch hit for Iguchi in the 9th.

QUOTE(Colorado Sox Fan @ Aug 24, 2005 -> 02:31 PM)
Lots of folks. For example, the reason we lost last night was Timo pinch hit for Iguchi in the 9th.

That's a complaint about Ozzie's choices, not about Timo. We all realize that Timo can't help it that he's terrible.

 

Seriously, noone's blaming Timo for this slide. He's just a bench player, we all get that.

QUOTE(thedoctor @ Aug 24, 2005 -> 07:14 AM)
a pass? wasn't he generally referred to as "dead" on this board for an extended period of time?

yep he was, and if i remember, i think it was nuke cleveland who had a sig with god commanding jermaine dye to rise from his grave and wake this O up. from what i remember it worked. maybe we should revert back to it?

QUOTE(daa84 @ Aug 24, 2005 -> 10:22 AM)
yep he was, and if i remember, i think it was nuke cleveland who had a sig with god commanding jermaine dye to rise from his grave and wake this O up. from what i remember it worked. maybe we should revert back to it?

 

Jabroni

QUOTE(daa84 @ Aug 24, 2005 -> 10:22 AM)
yep he was, and if i remember, i think it was nuke cleveland who had a sig with god commanding jermaine dye to rise from his grave and wake this O up. from what i remember it worked. maybe we should revert back to it?

That was Jabroni I think. He gone.

they all suck right now. but Dye did run into a wall yesterday so he gets a break of being yelled at for a day or two.

QUOTE(3E8 @ Aug 24, 2005 -> 10:24 AM)
That was Jabroni I think.  He gone.

 

 

wow, I didn't even realize that Jabroni was gone.

QUOTE(Colorado Sox Fan @ Aug 24, 2005 -> 08:28 AM)
Really? I must not have been paying attention. I've seen a lot about Crede, Timo, Paulie, but don't remember seeing much on Dye. I'll take your work for it.

Oh yeah, there was a lot of Jermaine Dead, Jermaine Dyed, Princess Dye, all that stuff.

But Cruddy/Crediocre and the infamous Judy still carry a higher lifetime bash average than Dye or any other current Sox player.

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