Pierzynski 12 Posted November 4, 2005 Share Posted November 4, 2005 Just because he never said that he didn't want to be here doesn't mean that he wants to stay in Chicago, if someone offers more years + a bit more cash he'll sign with them. It's as simple as that. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> How do you know?Are you Paul Konerko........NO Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steff Posted November 4, 2005 Share Posted November 4, 2005 QUOTE(BMac41 @ Nov 4, 2005 -> 11:56 AM) PK wants to stay here.He never said he doesn't want to be here. And of course he would say that... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steff Posted November 4, 2005 Share Posted November 4, 2005 QUOTE(BMac41 @ Nov 4, 2005 -> 11:59 AM) How do you know?Are you Paul Konerko........NO And neither are you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pierzynski 12 Posted November 4, 2005 Share Posted November 4, 2005 And of course he would say that... <{POST_SNAPBACK}> We better have some as good as him to replace him if he doesn't comeback. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kalapse Posted November 4, 2005 Share Posted November 4, 2005 QUOTE(BMac41 @ Nov 4, 2005 -> 11:59 AM) How do you know?Are you Paul Konerko........NO He'd be a fool not to. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pierzynski 12 Posted November 4, 2005 Share Posted November 4, 2005 (edited) And neither are you. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Hooray for me. Edited November 4, 2005 by BMac41 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kalapse Posted November 4, 2005 Share Posted November 4, 2005 QUOTE(BMac41 @ Nov 4, 2005 -> 12:02 PM) We better have some as good as him to replace him if he doesn't comeback. There aren't a lot of 40/100 guys laying around. We could in all likely hood replace some of his production but not all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SSH2005 Posted November 4, 2005 Share Posted November 4, 2005 You do know that almost every player is just looking for the big bucks when they hit free agency, right? It's usually their one big chance to cash in while they are in their prime. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kalapse Posted November 4, 2005 Share Posted November 4, 2005 QUOTE(SSH2005 @ Nov 4, 2005 -> 12:05 PM) You do know that almost every player is just looking for the big bucks when they hit free agency, right? It's usually their one big chance to cash in while they are in their prime. Konerko's value will never be as high as it is right now. This is his one major payday for his career, he needs to take advantage of this moment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SSH2005 Posted November 4, 2005 Share Posted November 4, 2005 Konerko's value will never be as high as it is right now. This is his one major payday for his career, he needs to take advantage of this moment. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> BMac41 doesn't seem to understand this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steff Posted November 4, 2005 Share Posted November 4, 2005 QUOTE(SSH2005 @ Nov 4, 2005 -> 12:07 PM) BMac41 doesn't seem to understand this. :banghead :banghead :banghead Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kalapse Posted November 4, 2005 Share Posted November 4, 2005 QUOTE(SSH2005 @ Nov 4, 2005 -> 12:07 PM) BMac41 doesn't seem to understand this. Every fan would love to believe that a good player that has been with their team for a while wants to stay in that city and continue to play for that team at a discounted price. Some people are able to convince themselves that this is the case where as others are able to understand that this is generally not the case. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlackBetsy Posted November 4, 2005 Share Posted November 4, 2005 QUOTE(Steff @ Nov 4, 2005 -> 12:49 PM) 7 days to complete a deal before he can hear what the Angels (and others) have to say... My bet would be if they come to any terms it will be closer to Soxfest if at all. I can't see Konerko signing with the Sox before he even gets a figure from another club, either. Gotta root for that Manny Ramirez-to-the-Angels trade, which would suck up whatever Arte Moreno wants to spend for 2006. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steff Posted November 4, 2005 Share Posted November 4, 2005 QUOTE(BlackBetsy @ Nov 4, 2005 -> 12:12 PM) I can't see Konerko signing with the Sox before he even gets a figure from another club, either. The players union won't allow it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlackBetsy Posted November 4, 2005 Share Posted November 4, 2005 QUOTE(Kalapse @ Nov 4, 2005 -> 01:58 PM) Just because he never said that he didn't want to be here doesn't mean that he wants to stay in Chicago, if someone offers more years + a bit more cash he'll sign with them. It's as simple as that. Hopefully, the extra endorsement money available to him in Chicago - which won't be there in another city - will give the Sox a little boost. I saw an estimate of $2-$3 million in endorsements for Konerko (seems a bit high to me), which gooses the Sox's contract offer by a little bit. There's your hometown discount right there. By the way, agents get single-digit fees on contracts, but get like 25% on endorsements/appearances. Landis has a reason to keep him in Chicago. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hi8is Posted November 4, 2005 Share Posted November 4, 2005 what would you rather have... say: 1 percent of 50 million + 25 percent of 3 million or say: 1 percent of 75 million? --------- they both work out to equal the same amount of profit so.. entrupt as you will. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoxFan562004 Posted November 4, 2005 Share Posted November 4, 2005 FWIW, ESPN Radio 1000 is saying Sox initial offer to PK is going to be 4/50 If Anaheim can get Manny that may be enough, it not, I imagine at least a 5th year is going to have to be added Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Milkman delivers Posted November 4, 2005 Share Posted November 4, 2005 I can see them going for a 5th year if they're already offering 12.5 a year for 4 years. That's a whole helluva lot of money, especially if you were to include that endorsement money that you were just talking about. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hi8is Posted November 4, 2005 Share Posted November 4, 2005 someone refresh my memory... what did we offer maggs and what did he sign with detroit for? i know we made the right decission with him, i just want to see the numbers again was it 5/60 and 6/72? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlackBetsy Posted November 4, 2005 Share Posted November 4, 2005 QUOTE(hi8is @ Nov 4, 2005 -> 02:32 PM) what would you rather have... say: 1 percent of 50 million + 25 percent of 3 million or say: 1 percent of 75 million? --------- they both work out to equal the same amount of profit so.. entrupt as you will. Not quite the way the math works. It's more like this: Agent share of contract=5% (4% sticks out in my head, but I'll use 5) Agent share of endorsements=25% Paulie endorsements in Chicago = $7.5 million over 5 years ($1.5 m/year) Agent's share = $1.75 million Paulie contract with White Sox (hypothetical)= 5 years/$65 million Agent's share= $3.25 million Total value to Paulie= $72.5 million Total value to agent= $5 million Paulie endorsements in LA (hypothetical)= $2.5 million over 5 years ($.5 m/year) Agent's share= $0.625 million Paulie contract with LA (hypothetical) = 5 years/$70 million Agent's share=$3.5 million Total value to Paulie= $72.5 million Total value to Agent= $4.125 million "Gee Paulie, don't you just love Chicago...why move?" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kalapse Posted November 4, 2005 Share Posted November 4, 2005 QUOTE(hi8is @ Nov 4, 2005 -> 12:49 PM) someone refresh my memory... what did we offer maggs and what did he sign with detroit for? i know we made the right decission with him, i just want to see the numbers again was it 5/60 and 6/72? I thought it was something like 5yrs/$14per that we offered him but my memory on the subject is kind of weak. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hi8is Posted November 4, 2005 Share Posted November 4, 2005 that seems right what did he get from detroit? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kalapse Posted November 4, 2005 Share Posted November 4, 2005 QUOTE(hi8is @ Nov 4, 2005 -> 12:57 PM) that seems right what did he get from detroit? 5yrs-$75M = $15M per. it includes 2 option years so Ordonez could make up to $105M total. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hi8is Posted November 4, 2005 Share Posted November 4, 2005 that leads me to believe that we will offer paulie the 5th year if another team comes in with it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kalapse Posted November 4, 2005 Share Posted November 4, 2005 QUOTE(hi8is @ Nov 4, 2005 -> 01:00 PM) that leads me to believe that we will offer paulie the 5th year if another team comes in with it. 5yrs/$65M from the Sox would not shock me one bit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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